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mrcombustible
01 Oct 24 18:49
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CONDITIONS OF ENTRY
As part of the security measures at Chelmsford City Racecourse (CCR), all attendees 18 years and over to the racecourse are required to bring with them photographic ID. This will be conducted by scanning photographic IDs with the following forms of ID accepted;
Passport
Driver's licence
Any government or international issue photo card.
This requirement to provide photo ID is to make CCR a safer racecourse and for your protection, so we kindly request your cooperation in this matter.
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I don't like the idea they scan your ID. They could be hacked.
Are they the only racecourse that asks for this?
Is it done at any other sport?

Neil Graham the failed trainer is now director of racing here, sounds like he will be a failure here.

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By:
Twoboyz
When: 01 Oct 24 19:11
Neil Graham has been there a very long time, since he split with Lesley. Anyone know what Lesley is up to nowadays ?
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 01 Oct 24 19:15
Fook that
By:
WolfJFlywheel
When: 01 Oct 24 20:38
Thought it was October 1st not April 1st.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 01 Oct 24 20:44
Indeed, that's absurd.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 01 Oct 24 20:49
Also applies to owners
By:
salmon spray
When: 01 Oct 24 21:16
Why do they want it ?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Oct 24 21:28
Cuz they're evidently enjoying helping to construct a 'show mw your papers please' society.

The Blair creature will be loving this.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Oct 24 21:32
This requirement to provide photo ID is to make CCR a safer racecourse and for your protection, so we kindly request your cooperation in this matter.

It's all for our own good...being treated like potential 'terrorists' that is.
By:
salmon spray
When: 01 Oct 24 21:45
I do find it weird GEORGE I must admit. Maybe I have to cross all 59 racecourses off my bucket list.
At the moment I have both a driver's licence and a passport but if I live another 10 years I might not have either. And yes I do object on principle as well as practicality.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 01 Oct 24 22:01
I am surprised there has been no publicity about this.A friend told me about it a few months ago. He no longer goes. He said on a Saturday night they only want drinkers as there is entertainment afterwards. It has become an Essex night club.

I am going on Thursday evening for the first time as I have received an owners invitation, probably be my last visit.I will show my London Freedom Pass which has my photo but no other details.
By:
dave1357
When: 01 Oct 24 22:09
it says any government id, salmon, so presumably a bus pass should be ok.

I'd be surprised if they were entitled to create a database of racegoers and would think that they should have to delete the images pretty soon after the meeting, but then again we have an information commissioner who thinks it's fine for people wanting to spend their own money on betting to be subjected to detailed and intrusive financial checks.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 01 Oct 24 22:14
John Holmes the Bankrupt was appointed a director of the Company on 18th Sep 2024 according to Companies House website. You may remember he was arrested for vat fraud in 2013


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/05/chelmsford-city-go-ahead-to-race-sunday

https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/great-leighs-founder-arrested-vat-fraud-418805
By:
leif
When: 01 Oct 24 22:30
average crowd between Oct 01 -Dec 31 of 2023 around 580.

Lowest crowd 139 on Nov 7th

Largest attendance prolly boosted by after racing entertainment for the Essex chavs.


course staff on minimum wage having to take the stick no doubt.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 01 Oct 24 22:32
Count me out, probably being put into affect as they are expecting a shed load of trouble when the drink kicks in after racing.
By:
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When: 01 Oct 24 22:56
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By:
leif
When: 01 Oct 24 23:01
Class 5 and 6 races apart from the first race a restricted novice stakes.


marketing team wrote that with their tongues firmly planted in their cheeks.
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Oct 24 12:26
I've sent them an e-mail telling them what I think of their policy.

Please do likewise if you feel the same as I do, that the policy is unacceptable.

e-mail:  info@chelmsfordcityracecourse.com
By:
sparrow
When: 02 Oct 24 12:34
If you don't like the classes of races then just ignore it as I do with certain types of races that I don't bother with.
By:
akajak
When: 02 Oct 24 13:05
Gestapo Racing

In order to enter the racecourse, guests are required to bring original photographic ID including a driver’s license or passport.

Guests who do not present photographic ID will not be admitted to the racecourse.

This is not applicable to under 18’s.

Tickets purchased by over 18’s unable to provide photo ID on request will not be refunded and security searches may be carried out from time to time on persons entering.

Please be aware that ID will be required in order to purchase alcohol for those who appear under the age of 25 years.
By:
The Management
When: 02 Oct 24 13:17
Surely it's only a matter of time Tom Kerr does a well thought out and insightful piece in the Racing Post highlighting this as "intrusive and Draconian".

And Michael Dugher (known to his friends as Phil MySlots) at the Betting & Gaming Council will surely be outraged.

Or maybe - neither of them will make any comment whatsoever.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Oct 24 13:30
Email sent, Thanks Rograin.
By:
howard
When: 02 Oct 24 14:10
Be bad enough wanting to see your driving licence if you are on full adult payment but taking a copy of it...no thanks.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Oct 24 15:07
That's the worrying part Howard,needing to take a copy of anything seems suspect and intrusive to me.
By:
akajak
When: 02 Oct 24 15:15
seems totally OTT
By:
penzance
When: 02 Oct 24 15:24
Non drivers will have to use their passports probably.
Who wants to be carrying that around all day?.
By:
elise
When: 02 Oct 24 15:28
Shamima Begum?
By:
mrcombustible
When: 02 Oct 24 15:36
Bad enough having ID copied but even worse when one of the Company Directors is John Holmes the Bankrupt who was also arrested for vat fraud
By:
mrcombustible
When: 02 Oct 24 15:42
Another annoying habit that has crept in at most racecourses is having your bag searched before admittance especially at sparsely attended mid week fixtures where you are not going to get trouble.
I was at Fontwell last Tuesday week and as I had no bag to search the security guard asked me had I anything in my pockets. I said, yes, my pockets are full and walked on. He did nothing. I am not letting any person search my pockets.
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Oct 24 17:08
They claim that they are checking ID's for reasons of security. This is total hogwash.

So a terrorist turns up, shows his driving licence, and can go in. Some old geezer who doesn't

drive or carry photo ID around with him will be refused admission and not refunded.

It will be interesting to see their reply to my e-mail.

If you haven't done so already, here's the address: info@chelmsfordracecourse.com
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 02 Oct 24 17:10
At Ascot the bag searchers order you to lift up your arms to be scanned by a metal detector. Which is a right pain when you carry things like house keys or small change in your pockets. You get the impression they'd never met anyone carrying coins before.
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Oct 24 17:18
Meanwhile, boycott Chelmsford races.
By:
akajak
When: 02 Oct 24 17:28
agreed
By:
dave1357
When: 02 Oct 24 17:29
roggrain • October 2, 2024 5:08 PM BST
They claim that they are checking ID's for reasons of security


I think the local police should object to their licenses, if there is such a high risk of disorder in comparison to other leisure events.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 02 Oct 24 18:15
Do they look into  ladies handbags
By:
elise
When: 02 Oct 24 18:17
leave it at home if you're worried
By:
leif
When: 02 Oct 24 18:26
Just 1,288 paying public turned up for this meeting last year so it won't be difficult to deal with any trouble, if any, you'd think.

Easy to ask that many to produce I.D without too much delay or too much annoyance.

well done to the marketing team though. the description of the evening sounds fun unless you're there to watch some decent racing.
By:
cosmik debris
When: 02 Oct 24 20:15
It's like getting into Fort Knox with scowling nightclub bouncers ready to greet you at the entrance. I used my Freedom Pass when I went recently as I'm not showing them anything else to copy. I don't have any trust whatsoever in the security of their data handling arrangements.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 02 Oct 24 20:39
GEORGE.B01 Oct 24 21:28Joined: 14 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 60,946 | Blogger: GEORGE.B's blog
Cuz they're evidently enjoying helping to construct a 'show mw your papers please' society.


^ this

Data collection

Building a profile for each and every soul

Digital ID en route

Been in the making for a very long time
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Oct 24 20:58
Ys, we are heading inexorably into a surveillance society such as the one that exists in China.
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