Keir Starmer…are the latest rumours true?

Lies? That's rich coming from you and the nonsense you spout.

I blocked EastLowerGooner. 

Tried to claim he was a muslim to justify his road trip to Rotherham post or whatever it was.

He is **** of the highest order.

this thread has potential..

Cardinal…I’m not white and why are you assuming my religion.

Why are you lying for?

Sparrow…it’s okay…if you like your peanut butter smooth as well then it’s okay.

I acknowledge you and your pronouns.

Certainly a few whispers circulating regarding  Mr Starmer ,Hard to know what is true these days

Sparrow are you happy with this Mob that have been voted in , They dont seem much different to last Mob

I will make no judgment until a reasonable amount of time has past. All governments who have inherited a serious economic situation have in my experience had to do make unpleasant choices in their first year or two.

i'd say 2 things, i've had conversations with elg for years and wouldn't have a bad word to say about him and i know from another poster that he's telling the truth when he says he's not white

A pension pincher preaching difficult decisions ahead yet gladly availed herself with freebies from a donor. How hypocritical and offensive is that? Scum!

bit harsh imp, i like sparrow as well

"Sparrow...it's okay...if you like your peanut butter smooth as well then it's okay".
Can you expand plz? Is there an insinuation Sir Shameless could be otherwise too?

impossible123 29 Sep 24 19:15 
"Sparrow...it's okay...if you like your peanut butter smooth as well then it's okay".
Can you expand plz? Is there an insinuation Sir Shameless could be otherwise too?





I think I also need an explanation about this "peanut butter" thing.

Big announcement in next couple of weeks, MSM have their fingers on the trigger!

Allegedly a bender in a marriage of convenience, who'd have thought it!!



Ted Heath was never 'outed' until after his death.

Kier is gay?

Did it come out,he was a secret socialist

He probably preferred bacon buttys,if went to private school,

I used to facilitate members of ILA (Inner London Association) some of whom later held senior roles in the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL) in the 80's. Some of these went on to hold high political office and positions in PLCs. They'd use the facilities at ILA eg stationery, computers, phones, faxes, etc. But, nothing was to a personal capacity eg jewellery, clothing, phones, holidays, etc.

Quite surprised at sparrow starting a thread like this...but the answer is definitely yes,Elg.

No self respecting bloke lets an openly gay man buy him clothes and choose the underwear his wife will wear.

plain fookin' weird.

let's be clear, he / someone spent 30 odd grand on clothes and he didn't look any different

I think most on here think that,

But if any gays are reading this,you can buy me clothes any time,ideally not pink dresses,send them to Betfair to pass them on.

lead on....

Has a penchant for swollen goods.............Keir not Sparrow

I ll leave this Fred to the I’m free vicars,clothes welcome.

Could that possibly explain why Sir Shameless looked "different"? There is hardly any emotion displayed, just plain coldness facially.

as in maybe we're not seeing the clothes starmer actually bought and the reason he looks the same is because it is the same stuff and he's got a wardrobe full of pink dresses

A cross-dresser in secret?

There might be an affair but you lot are barking up the wrong tree AS F*CKING USUAL

If you listen carefully to Isable Oakeshott with Mike Graham she pour cold water on doubts about his sexuality.

Does the name Jenny mean anything to you lot?

#JustAsking

Sir kier is a clever lawyer,he knows what’s best for the nation,what he does in private is no one else’s business

so jenny's his stage name then?

You need to not be fixated on him,

aye and maybe im on the wind

Man Puts a person up in a Penthouse , Man Gives that person thousands of pounds in various  Gifts

If the person was a woman ,what would people make of it ?

it's bound to create speculation tbh

passed sparrer

'he knows whats best for the nation'? really? i dont fink so. if he did he wouldnt have outed himself as a socialist

aside from that i dont care if hes keir screamer. hampstead heath and brown(no jokes) were, as is macron en france but who cares, aside from his mrs?

Kier starmer is a honest loyal man,whether you agree with his views or not.

Every policy he introduces will be to help as many people as possible,no doubt,they’re be winners and losers,

Not all policies bear fruit,even if he had the best intentions.
Bit like maggies council house sales,great for the owners,but then bad for future generations lack of housing,but then she’s not around so doesn’t care,

Kier will try his best then leave it to the lap of the gods,events always derail a government,he’ll then probably be sat with lady starmer in her box at Doncaster as lion of winter wins the triple crown and the lads scurry him away to the breeding sheds,overjoyed Galileo has been replaced.

Let's leave it to Ms Kuenssberg next week to shed more light. Whether Sir Shameless is or not is neither here nor there with me. It was just the "judgement" and massive sense of self-entitlement for himself and his wife that I found shocking, distasteful and offensive.

Greed is bad in a person; greed in a senior politician and leader is offensive.

1 suit,we all know ,they have to throw whatever mud they can find,think gruel mud if he’s a stand up guy.

Starmer let some oik pour glitter over his swede while he sat there like a rabbit caught in the torch's spotlight.
Two jags would chinned the c4nt

Violence the last resort of the scoundrel,like all good legal minds,he needed to assess the situation,

There may of been bigger and more important issues at hand,not just what you may have seen

Just speculation, but anyone else feel that following the October budget that will presumably rubber stamp the winter fuel allowance cull that other labour MP's may surrender the whip?

Leif, I've got a feeling that after the conference they might do an about turn on the winter fuel allowance
Gonna look silly but might try and claim they've listened to the public etc

Agree,it’s not the hill to die on for the sake of 300 quid.

most honest loyal men and women in politics dont get anywhere-see frank field

every policy he introduces will not help the majority. the road to hell is paved with good intentions

he will do harm while supposing to do good. the massive increase in those inactive and claiming benefits is off the scale and a time bomb. but he wont be allowed to tackle it as his members and mps turn hard cases into bad law

the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years and he wont do anything about it, aside from window-dressing

too many became used to being paid to do nothing during the shakedown and will be very hard to shift

the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years

Oh, you mean 'coincided' with the roll out of the 'potions'?

"Recent years" as in from 2021 onwards?

When the tories basically kicked everyone off sick benefit and made them re apply,40% didn’t bother appealing.

Most won on appeal,but they had to pursue it,which you would if sick.

So I don’t see how he can reduce these numbers.

Given the way health and safety has gone,minor ailments trigger long term cliamants.hounding them seems not cost effective.

What can you do,

There’s bigger issues to deal with.

Agree,it’s not the hill to die on for the sake of 300 quid.

It would placate a decent amount of folk that put him where he is and let's be fair the support isnn't nationally overwhelming by any stretch.

Countless billions spaffed up the p1sser wall during covid by HMRC, PPE fraud and latterly with duff weaponry sent toward Ukrainia mania only to be obliterated by Russian tech.

Would be a good opportunity to bury knickergate amid a good news announcement for the elderly proles.

cripes. me storkers turned up. i didnt make any judgement as to why, just stated that it had. but you have to get conspiracy angle in

i dont mean potions. i mean being paid to do nothing. no mention of lotions potions or notions you berk

the tories didnt kick everyone off benefits. they tried to address a serious problem that needs tackling but as usual,they got it wrong. doesnt mean it doesnt exist. stick to space-age problems you twit

He ll not forget those who backed his leadership bid,once he hits the ground running,he ll win other those who doubted him,

Given the state of the betting on the next Tory leader,no obvious stand out,even the tories will be hoping they lose again,as they ll want him to carry on.

another d1ckhead turns up

ukrainia mania and 'obliterated by russian tech'. which is an oxymoron in military terms, despite the colossal sums it spends on 'defence'. read-war

grotesquley offensive garbage from the idiot leafy. you sound pleased the fascist dictator got his weapons in order after starting a european land-war unknown for 80 years, and 500k dead because of this megalomaniac

if ukraine had been given what its been screaming for this might be over. ie. putin might have had to withdraw from the country he invaded 10 years ago

They were *YOUR* words

the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years

Are they all trying to pull a fast one, or did something happen that made them get sick?

Recently we had the story about what happened to the wife of Seb Sanders, and then not long after the story about the pharmacist who was badly damaged by the 'vaccine' and then, like Mrs Sanders, refused the compensation payment, which led to him taking his own life.

How many more of these horror stories are out there but not making into the mainstream news?

Not long into the 'vaccine' roll out, UK Column reported on a Guillain-Barré syndrome case, thought to have been caused by the potion. They were kicked off Youtube for doing so.

you are wilfully obtuse

i suggested they might have become used to doing nothing. claiming sickness is easier(you dont have to report for work) and more lucrative, that is all. you then moved on to the potion being responsible

i know nothing of seb sanders tale, but hard cases make bad law

uk column is a fruitcake rag and not quotable by any sensible person, which is why you do

with the roll out of the 'potions'?

pmsl  never heard it called that George

uk column is a fruitcake rag and not quotable by any sensible person, which is why you do

How about University College London, then?

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/may/rise-guillain-barre-syndrome-following-astrazeneca-vaccine#:~:text=Overall%2C%20following%20a%20first%20dose,showed%20no%20excess%20GBS%20risk.

A correlation between a first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine and a small but significant rise in cases of the serious neurological condition Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), has been identified by UCL scientists, as part of an analysis of NHS data.

mitolo 29 Sep 24 21:55 
i know nothing

There ya go manuel-mitolo, I've sorted that one for you, in your own words.

manuel? racist

hands up i know nothing about vaccines

but i do know someone at ucl who says youd be a fool not to take it given the tiny risk. it might be that a tiny minority suffer but its well worth the risk, as with all vaccines

i believe him

problem with you is you see ulterior motives from the elites at every turn

youve managed to skew what i said into a discussion about vaccines, which i did not mention

but as you have, look at the damage done by anti-vaxxers who have resurrected measles from being almost eradicated into a problem again, purely on the back of one rogue doscredited quack andrew wakefield

his nonsense has been a calamity for many children because the interweb spread his garbage and turned it into a movement

but as you have, look at the damage done by anti-vaxxers who have resurrected measles from being almost eradicated into a problem again

Have you seen this with your own eyes?

Who / what is your source for this claim?

What percentage survive measles without a vaccine, please?

well, i dont know. im now digging out my back issues of new scientist

actually im not, as im steaming drunk, but i will tommorrow when i see this

adios

hang on a tick folks whilst manuel-mitolo does a google search, and even then we'll be lucky to get any straight answers

aye

Hmmm, playing the 'racist' card.

'I know nothing' a famous line from Manuel in Fawlty Towers, suits you aptly

I'll help you out here, I think your 'source' is the advert that's been on a lot recently with the angelic children telling people they gotta jabbed, or else...

It's tremendously effective really, as shown above, cuz anyone who suggests the potions might have caused harms, you wanna turn on them and call them ant-vaxxers. Your brain has been well trained by the adverts.

Ignore the c4nt George.

ya talkin to a lowlife whose confession laid plain his plan along with a 'mate' to infiltrate a branch of a bookmaker with the sole purpose of altering the overnight greyhound forecast doubles slips to nab some loot.

Imagine being a staff member, who now gets cast in the spotlight accused of being complicit in a crime, potentially facing the sack and a criminal record.

Has the gall to relay such a tale on a betting forum

elg = chinese (yella)

A unusual move from the mods ie deleting the original post but leaving the rest of the thread.

So he really does like pineapple on his pizza :o

there's 76,000 and counting new oaps claiming pernsion credits that weren't before the WFA was announced and THICKETS on here think LAB are might u turn on the WFA,that's the level of intellect we expect from a gambling forum, if they + u turned by XMAS they might be the cost of 200,000 + pension credits down and 6 months of pain over bmeans testing, LAB have took the pain over means testing benefits and now all parties will means test more benefits going forward, IE KEMI wants to means test maternity pay, in the end I,d WAGER MAJ of voters want benefits means tested

1tp, I'm looking at your figures of 76,000 new pension credit claimants already since WFA withdrawal announced, and 200,000 total by Xmas
Well some of those will be people who have reached pension age of 66 during that time but leaving that aside... So, the government announcement to save money will have triggered 200,000 new pensioners to start claiming pension credit who had not previously done so even though they were entitled to
I've no idea how much that has cost versus the WFA saving
BTW, the government's own figures from February 2024 suggested that there were 800,000 people entitled to claim Pension Credit that weren't doing so

All in all, not a great money saving decision

Why drag up Covid vaccines? That was in the past. I thought this thread was about Sir Shameless and some of his senior colleagues indulging in self-entitlement gifts from rich Labour donors.

George has an incredible knack of turning any subject into a covid/anti vax one. It is still at the very front of his mind all these years later.

Correct reg. The reason why so many were failing to claim was that the sum involved in the winter payment was relatively minor and the claim form is very complicated which puts many older people off. Now after all the publicity I suspect that many of their children will be encouraging and helping them to apply hence the upturn. What Sir Keir may have failed to realise is that he has alienated the offspring of pensioners who have lost the payment even more than us pensioners as we are used to disappointments from Governments.

People have been maimed and killed by the covid potions and the horror stories keep on coming. To remain silent about it is your choice.

But I can get back to the subject of the topic - Starmer.

He wanted to mandate those potions for everyone. This alone should have ensured he got nowhere near a public office.

But does he decide anything anyway?

Let me remind you of the chilling words from the Blair creature in 2020 I think, or it might have been 2021.

"We have our people embedded in governments all around the world"

Hang on, Sir Tony, but we live in a 'democracy', don't we?

Who are 'we', the globalist cabal deciding policies?
Just look at how major Western countries move in lockstep on major policies such as covid and Ukraine.

Yes its lucky we live in a democracy and everyone I know had a choice to vax or not.

I don't think that Blair is alone in that do you George? While I am certainly not in favour of them taking power, like any democrat I respect the recent Vote in Austria which gave a right wing party the biggest vote. Like France and Germany however, the other political parties there have vowed to stop them taking power. I know that there are flaws in the UK first past the post system but at least it gave Labour (to my dismay) a working majority. If we had opted for proportional representation we would be witnessing Tories, Libdems, SNP and Reform trying to cobble together a majority to keep Labour out. None of our leaders are true democrats when it comes to them losing a vote and when the public see that, they seem to move further to the right. The Labour victory did not prevent a huge swing to Reform.

GLASGOWCALLING 30 Sep 24 11:34 
Yes its lucky we live in a democracy and everyone I know had a choice to vax or not.

Try telling that to the ? 40,000 care workers who lost their jobs when they became suspicious of a potion with no long term safety data, or the thousands of doctors and nurses who were about to walk out on their jobs when they were threatened with the sack too.

Or the thousands who have been maimed / killed by the potion who only got it after an intense psychological operation on them?

Granny Killer

No one's safe until we're all safe

You want to go on holiday / want your 'freedoms' back, then get jabbed

F*ck The Nuremberg Code

76,000 new (possible) pension credit applicants out of 10 million pensioners affected by losing winter fuel payment
hardly something to be shouting from the rooftops, there have always been people who don't understand what benefits are out there
there must be millions of pensioners living alone with no family or people to guide them into claiming rightful benefits

the THICKETS must include their own Union Paymasters who voted overwhelmingly against this ill thought out piece of legislation

New suit and glasses Starmer and Reeves (who has claimed thousands in heating expenses alone in recent years) pair of Billy Hunts of the highest order
and just to add insult the price of heating has just gone up 10% - meet the new boss same as the old boss right enough!

And by the way:

have this potion with no long-term safety data injected into you or you will be sacked:

Is not living in a 'democracy', it is living in a tyranny.

morning boy george

tyranny is exactly what we will have in ukraine if putin gets his way and if the western nations give up on it. its not 'lockstep', its the free world reacting to a fascict dictator, like ww2. and without u.s. help then who lnows how it would have turned out. you would allow putin free reign to smash the place up and instal a puppet, creating a guerilla war and anothe 20 million refugees. which might well happen if trump gets in

and andrew wakefield is responsible for the rise in measles cases from near-extinction in the uk and elsewhere after he claimed the vaccine caused autism. total bollox but scared enough mugs into refusing the mmr jab

It’s not proper backing of Ukraine that is happening, it’s supplying them weapons just to hold out long enough for Putin to get punch drunk.
If we were backing them we’d tell them to fire back into mainland Russia, as it is the West are being played by them being scared of Putin going crazy.
It’s an awful lot of pandering of a guy so capricious as him.

A trump second presidency would cleave off a section of Ukraine, and placate Putin, but at the benefit of Israel properly dealing with the Middle East.
Then Putin can get back to strong arming Northern Africa since democracy has failed terribly there and they openly wish for strict control to run the Islamists out, something the Wagner Group have no scruples in doing.

Plus Trump is the only option against the woke disease.

putin is in too deep and if trump gets in he wont settle for a chunk-hes stated numerous times ukraine is 'our land' and its his'historic mission' to recapture it for mother russia

israel cannot 'deal' with the middle east. it will never be at peace no matter what it does as the religion of pieces will not rest until all the jews are dead, like has happened in every other country in the region-the persecution of non-islamic faiths. christians and jews were widespread and have been eradicated. iran has explicitly stated it wants to end israel and kill jews and without it hamas and hezbollah wouldnt exist and israel would be attacked no matter about settlements and other grievances. nobody mentions this. iran is a truly vile state but gets away with murder, literally

the real genocide-a wildly wrongly-applied and over used term is going on in africa where islamo loons are killing africans in stupendous numbers. nt that it gets much attention

democracy hasnt failed in africa-islam has. it doesnt do liberal or even illiberal democracy. thats it. simples

Dealing with the Middle East is dealing with Iran….which is a much greater cause of concern than Russia is to the West.
The regime has to change and the Paydari nobbled.
The whole of the Sahel is the rump that France no longer wants the responsibility to deal with, Russia is the only game in town, unless everyone wants to wait another decade for China to cash in its interests in Africa.
The desire for strongman control and an irradiation of Islamist is one of the same, 11 coupes in about 4 years, many Islamic backed or instigated have tilted all the rulers in the area against the democracy they were lead to believe would save them, the truth is it’s wasted on them
Control is required by those who will fight just as dirty as the Islamists, and that’s Russia who don’t answer to hand wringers.
Holding Northern Africa is essential in stopping all the emigration to Europe.

Supports Gunners .Bet Lord Alli takes him up the Arsenall.

take your pick on Twitter from
he,s having a gay affair with a known gay muslim
both his kids are trans
he,s had 2 affairs with 2 female LAB MP,s
he,s lived away from his wife for last 2 years

and the same loons spent 2 yrs 24/7 before the GE,calling him
boring.boring kier

What price for him to be PM before and after next General Election?

the corbynista,s hate starmmer far more than any right wingers do and they,ll be privey to more info about his private life than daily mail hacks/OAKSHITT etc etc and if it could bring him down they,d make public somehow in a nano second,Owen Jones for example couldn't help himself

So what have we had in just a few weeks from Starmer?

Taken the winter fuel allowance away

The sausages 'slip of the tongue'

Threatening to give British overseas territory away

The Lord Alli saga

and whatever else I might have missed.

Read Bob Moran's post and understand we're being played...

Bob Moran
@bobscartoons
"As many of you will have noticed, I like nothing more than depicting characters like Keir Starmer as totally ridiculous, pathetic jokes.
But please don't fall into the mainstream media trap of thinking he's made a load of stupid mistakes and now risks being turfed out.
If you understand that a key goal of all this madness is a One World Government, you ought to recognise that all Western leaders have been told to make themselves as unpopular, hypocritical, and shameless as possible. This is so that people increasingly despair at the state of their domestic administrations, and feel ever more tempted by the idea of handing over control to supranational organisations and Dark Lord Emperor figures like Tony Blair.
In this way, Starmer will be feeling very content that he is fulfilling his brief to the letter, pleasing his superiors, and earning whatever unsavoury rewards they've promised him."

* I missed a big one off the list - early release of dangerous criminals

* and an even bigger one - wanting to fire British missiles deep into Russia

Within weeks of coming to power it's almost as if we have a British prime minister going out of his way to antagonize the British public:

Taken the winter fuel allowance away
The sausages 'slip of the tongue'
Threatening to give British overseas territory away
The Lord Alli saga
Early release of dangerous criminals
Wanting to fire British missiles deep into Russia

Bob Moran nails it every time:

"If you understand that a key goal of all this madness is a One World Government, you ought to recognise that all Western leaders have been told to make themselves as unpopular, hypocritical, and shameless as possible. This is so that people increasingly despair at the state of their domestic administrations, and feel ever more tempted by the idea of handing over control to supranational organisations and Dark Lord Emperor figures like Tony Blair."

And don't forget the process of globalization of power has already begun with so called "Pandemic Treaty" giving powers to the so called 'World Health Organisation' over sovereign nations.

never read so much carp in my life even if you believed in the theory Tony Blair is a hate figure to many in the UK, so other than Blair who is this mysterious dark lord we,re all egging on to lead the country ?

You'll have to ask the Blair creature himself because I'll remind you of his quote early into the covid scam:

WE have our people embedded in governments all around the world.

It's already happening, the example I gave above regarding the "pandemic treaty", and I can give you another example, the running down of the British military whilst NATO forces are being built up.

And btw, I missed another one off the list:

I'm not sure they're too keen to report on this normally in the mainstream but they have this time, they wanted you to know this, particularly if you voted for Brexit to 'take back control of our borders' - a record number of 'migrants' for the year crossing the channel. So we'll add this one to the list, it's almost as if the British public are deliberately being antagonized by the regime running the country...

Taken the winter fuel allowance away
The sausages 'slip of the tongue'
Threatening to give British overseas territory away
The Lord Alli saga
Early release of dangerous criminals
Wanting to fire British missiles deep into Russia
Record number of 'migrants' crossing the channel.

lol, missed another off...

The sacrifice of a large area of prime farming land close to Newmarket at the altar of the net zero lunacy...with more to come?

How does Bob Moron know all this ? has he been privy to a leak from the Dark Lord Emperors organisation ?