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By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 20:26
1 suit,we all know ,they have to throw whatever mud they can find,think gruel mud if he’s a stand up guy.
By:
leif
When: 29 Sep 24 20:26
Starmer let some oik pour glitter over his swede while he sat there like a rabbit caught in the torch's spotlight.
Two jags would chinned the c4nt
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 20:30
Violence the last resort of the scoundrel,like all good legal minds,he needed to assess the situation,

There may of been bigger and more important issues at hand,not just what you may have seen
By:
leif
When: 29 Sep 24 20:42
Just speculation, but anyone else feel that following the October budget that will presumably rubber stamp the winter fuel allowance cull that other labour MP's may surrender the whip?
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 20:49
Leif, I've got a feeling that after the conference they might do an about turn on the winter fuel allowance
Gonna look silly but might try and claim they've listened to the public etc
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 20:59
Agree,it’s not the hill to die on for the sake of 300 quid.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 21:05
most honest loyal men and women in politics dont get anywhere-see frank field

every policy he introduces will not help the majority. the road to hell is paved with good intentions

he will do harm while supposing to do good. the massive increase in those inactive and claiming benefits is off the scale and a time bomb. but he wont be allowed to tackle it as his members and mps turn hard cases into bad law

the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years and he wont do anything about it, aside from window-dressing

too many became used to being paid to do nothing during the shakedown and will be very hard to shift
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 21:12
the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years

Oh, you mean 'coincided' with the roll out of the 'potions'?

"Recent years" as in from 2021 onwards?
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 21:13
When the tories basically kicked everyone off sick benefit and made them re apply,40% didn’t bother appealing.

Most won on appeal,but they had to pursue it,which you would if sick.

So I don’t see how he can reduce these numbers.

Given the way health and safety has gone,minor ailments trigger long term cliamants.hounding them seems not cost effective.

What can you do,

There’s bigger issues to deal with.
By:
leif
When: 29 Sep 24 21:17
Agree,it’s not the hill to die on for the sake of 300 quid.

It would placate a decent amount of folk that put him where he is and let's be fair the support isnn't nationally overwhelming by any stretch.

Countless billions spaffed up the p1sser wall during covid by HMRC, PPE fraud and latterly with duff weaponry sent toward Ukrainia mania only to be obliterated by Russian tech.

Would be a good opportunity to bury knickergate amid a good news announcement for the elderly proles.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 21:19
cripes. me storkers turned up. i didnt make any judgement as to why, just stated that it had. but you have to get conspiracy angle in

i dont mean potions. i mean being paid to do nothing. no mention of lotions potions or notions you berk

the tories didnt kick everyone off benefits. they tried to address a serious problem that needs tackling but as usual,they got it wrong. doesnt mean it doesnt exist. stick to space-age problems you twit
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 21:22
He ll not forget those who backed his leadership bid,once he hits the ground running,he ll win other those who doubted him,

Given the state of the betting on the next Tory leader,no obvious stand out,even the tories will be hoping they lose again,as they ll want him to carry on.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 21:26
another d1ckhead turns up

ukrainia mania and 'obliterated by russian tech'. which is an oxymoron in military terms, despite the colossal sums it spends on 'defence'. read-war

grotesquley offensive garbage from the idiot leafy. you sound pleased the fascist dictator got his weapons in order after starting a european land-war unknown for 80 years, and 500k dead because of this megalomaniac

if ukraine had been given what its been screaming for this might be over. ie. putin might have had to withdraw from the country he invaded 10 years ago
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 21:27
They were *YOUR* words

the number of sickness claimants has risen by about 150% in recent years

Are they all trying to pull a fast one, or did something happen that made them get sick?

Recently we had the story about what happened to the wife of Seb Sanders, and then not long after the story about the pharmacist who was badly damaged by the 'vaccine' and then, like Mrs Sanders, refused the compensation payment, which led to him taking his own life.

How many more of these horror stories are out there but not making into the mainstream news?

Not long into the 'vaccine' roll out, UK Column reported on a Guillain-Barré syndrome case, thought to have been caused by the potion. They were kicked off Youtube for doing so.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 21:55
you are wilfully obtuse

i suggested they might have become used to doing nothing. claiming sickness is easier(you dont have to report for work) and more lucrative, that is all. you then moved on to the potion being responsible

i know nothing of seb sanders tale, but hard cases make bad law

uk column is a fruitcake rag and not quotable by any sensible person, which is why you do
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 29 Sep 24 21:55
with the roll out of the 'potions'?

pmsl  never heard it called that George
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 21:59
uk column is a fruitcake rag and not quotable by any sensible person, which is why you do

How about University College London, then?

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/may/rise-guillain-barre-syndrome-following-astrazeneca-vaccine#:~:text=Overall%2C%20following%20a%20first%20dose,showed%20no%20excess%20GBS%20risk.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:01
A correlation between a first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine and a small but significant rise in cases of the serious neurological condition Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), has been identified by UCL scientists, as part of an analysis of NHS data.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:03
mitolo 29 Sep 24 21:55 
i know nothing


There ya go manuel-mitolo, I've sorted that one for you, in your own words.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 22:24
manuel? racist

hands up i know nothing about vaccines

but i do know someone at ucl who says youd be a fool not to take it given the tiny risk. it might be that a tiny minority suffer but its well worth the risk, as with all vaccines

i believe him

problem with you is you see ulterior motives from the elites at every turn

youve managed to skew what i said into a discussion about vaccines, which i did not mention

but as you have, look at the damage done by anti-vaxxers who have resurrected measles from being almost eradicated into a problem again, purely on the back of one rogue doscredited quack andrew wakefield

his nonsense has been a calamity for many children because the interweb spread his garbage and turned it into a movement
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:30
but as you have, look at the damage done by anti-vaxxers who have resurrected measles from being almost eradicated into a problem again

Have you seen this with your own eyes?

Who / what is your source for this claim?

What percentage survive measles without a vaccine, please?
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 22:33
well, i dont know. im now digging out my back issues of new scientist

actually im not, as im steaming drunk, but i will tommorrow when i see this

adios
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:33
hang on a tick folks whilst manuel-mitolo does a google search, and even then we'll be lucky to get any straight answers
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:34
aye
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:35
Hmmm, playing the 'racist' card.

'I know nothing' a famous line from Manuel in Fawlty Towers, suits you aptly
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 29 Sep 24 22:40
I'll help you out here, I think your 'source' is the advert that's been on a lot recently with the angelic children telling people they gotta jabbed, or else...

It's tremendously effective really, as shown above, cuz anyone who suggests the potions might have caused harms, you wanna turn on them and call them ant-vaxxers. Your brain has been well trained by the adverts.
By:
leif
When: 29 Sep 24 22:43
Ignore the c4nt George.

ya talkin to a lowlife whose confession laid plain his plan along with a 'mate' to infiltrate a branch of a bookmaker with the sole purpose of altering the overnight greyhound forecast doubles slips to nab some loot.

Imagine being a staff member, who now gets cast in the spotlight accused of being complicit in a crime, potentially facing the sack and a criminal record.

Has the gall to relay such a tale on a betting forumCry
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 29 Sep 24 22:46
elg = chinese (yella)
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 30 Sep 24 02:23
A unusual move from the mods ie deleting the original post but leaving the rest of the thread.

So he really does like pineapple on his pizza :o
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Sep 24 05:34
there's 76,000 and counting new oaps claiming pernsion credits that weren't before the WFA was announced and THICKETS on here think LAB are might u turn on the WFA,that's the level of intellect we expect from a gambling forum, if they + u turned by XMAS they might be the cost of 200,000 + pension credits down and 6 months of pain over bmeans testing, LAB have took the pain over means testing benefits and now all parties will means test more benefits going forward, IE KEMI wants to means test maternity pay, in the end I,d WAGER MAJ of voters want benefits means tested
By:
Regbutler
When: 30 Sep 24 08:20
1tp, I'm looking at your figures of 76,000 new pension credit claimants already since WFA withdrawal announced, and 200,000 total by Xmas
Well some of those will be people who have reached pension age of 66 during that time but leaving that aside... So, the government announcement to save money will have triggered 200,000 new pensioners to start claiming pension credit who had not previously done so even though they were entitled to
I've no idea how much that has cost versus the WFA saving
BTW, the government's own figures from February 2024 suggested that there were 800,000 people entitled to claim Pension Credit that weren't doing so

All in all, not a great money saving decision
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Sep 24 08:22
Why drag up Covid vaccines? That was in the past. I thought this thread was about Sir Shameless and some of his senior colleagues indulging in self-entitlement gifts from rich Labour donors.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 30 Sep 24 09:07
George has an incredible knack of turning any subject into a covid/anti vax one. It is still at the very front of his mind all these years later.
By:
sageform
When: 30 Sep 24 10:40
Correct reg. The reason why so many were failing to claim was that the sum involved in the winter payment was relatively minor and the claim form is very complicated which puts many older people off. Now after all the publicity I suspect that many of their children will be encouraging and helping them to apply hence the upturn. What Sir Keir may have failed to realise is that he has alienated the offspring of pensioners who have lost the payment even more than us pensioners as we are used to disappointments from Governments.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 30 Sep 24 10:45
People have been maimed and killed by the covid potions and the horror stories keep on coming. To remain silent about it is your choice.

But I can get back to the subject of the topic - Starmer.

He wanted to mandate those potions for everyone. This alone should have ensured he got nowhere near a public office.

But does he decide anything anyway?

Let me remind you of the chilling words from the Blair creature in 2020 I think, or it might have been 2021.

"We have our people embedded in governments all around the world"

Hang on, Sir Tony, but we live in a 'democracy', don't we?

Who are 'we', the globalist cabal deciding policies?
Just look at how major Western countries move in lockstep on major policies such as covid and Ukraine.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 30 Sep 24 11:34
Yes its lucky we live in a democracy and everyone I know had a choice to vax or not.
By:
sageform
When: 30 Sep 24 11:42
I don't think that Blair is alone in that do you George? While I am certainly not in favour of them taking power, like any democrat I respect the recent Vote in Austria which gave a right wing party the biggest vote. Like France and Germany however, the other political parties there have vowed to stop them taking power. I know that there are flaws in the UK first past the post system but at least it gave Labour (to my dismay) a working majority. If we had opted for proportional representation we would be witnessing Tories, Libdems, SNP and Reform trying to cobble together a majority to keep Labour out. None of our leaders are true democrats when it comes to them losing a vote and when the public see that, they seem to move further to the right. The Labour victory did not prevent a huge swing to Reform.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 30 Sep 24 12:03
GLASGOWCALLING 30 Sep 24 11:34 
Yes its lucky we live in a democracy and everyone I know had a choice to vax or not.


Try telling that to the ? 40,000 care workers who lost their jobs when they became suspicious of a potion with no long term safety data, or the thousands of doctors and nurses who were about to walk out on their jobs when they were threatened with the sack too.

Or the thousands who have been maimed / killed by the potion who only got it after an intense psychological operation on them?

Granny Killer

No one's safe until we're all safe

You want to go on holiday / want your 'freedoms' back, then get jabbed

F*ck The Nuremberg Code
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 30 Sep 24 12:08
76,000 new (possible) pension credit applicants out of 10 million pensioners affected by losing winter fuel payment
hardly something to be shouting from the rooftops, there have always been people who don't understand what benefits are out there
there must be millions of pensioners living alone with no family or people to guide them into claiming rightful benefits

the THICKETS must include their own Union Paymasters who voted overwhelmingly against this ill thought out piece of legislation

New suit and glasses Starmer and Reeves (who has claimed thousands in heating expenses alone in recent years) pair of Billy Hunts of the highest order
and just to add insult the price of heating has just gone up 10% - meet the new boss same as the old boss right enough!
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 30 Sep 24 12:19
And by the way:

have this potion with no long-term safety data injected into you or you will be sacked:

Is not living in a 'democracy', it is living in a tyranny.
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