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Wow. What a resignation statement from Labour MP Rosie Duffield.
Wow. What a resignation statement from Labour MP Rosie Duffield.
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2nd September 1962.
He's over 60! |
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The Management30 Sep 24 13:05Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 10,763 | Blogger: The Management's blog
To all the old people ranting on about "I've paid in all me life..." The Management30 Sep 24 13:09Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 10,763 | Blogger: The Management's blog I do appreciate that's not gonna be a very popular post, on a forum largely populated by old people claiming benefits. Well it does appear from your recent posts that you don't like Old people. I do agree that people who don't need it shouldn't get it but its only £6 a week, a bit different to the train drivers who probably don't need their £200 a week rise. I have a good mate who not long ago said to me, "I don't know how people manage on just a state pension." We had a discussion about this last week with him and 6 other pals, all well over retirement age, he was quick to ask me "Do you need the £300, i said no, but plenty of others do. Asking everyone of our group if they needed it, some said yes some said no, but he didn't add that at his grand age of 78 he's still working for himself and raking in a pretty penny. |
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I get what you are saying stew but also get TM's view, it is not a straightforward solution to get it right though, however TM has a valid point in giving money to those who clearly do not need it is silly just because of age based criteria.
On the other hand, no pensioner in the UK should have to worry about any sort of poverty let alone fuel, the NI contributions are in effect a pay as you go insurance e.g NHS and like an indemnity should provide a sum at the end to ensure a life rather than an existence for the few years remaining after working life? Have Governments ever considered the original concept or like Road Tax which is spent on anything but roads, is it just a central pot to do as they please IYO? |
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stewarts rise30 Sep 24 14:40Joined: 22 Apr 04 | Topic/replies: 31,256 | Blogger: stewarts rise's blog
Well it does appear from your recent posts that you don't like Old people. I've just stated a few facts - and then acknowledged that a lot of old people won't like them. They are still facts. I don't see how stating some facts translates into me not liking old people. |
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I'm of the opinion that a lot of old people who post on here don't claim benefits, just get their pensions to which they are entitled, a pension is not a benefit imo.
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Yes, it's another well known fact that once people start claiming the state pension, they don't like to think of it as a benefit. There was even an (unsuccessful) petition in 2016 (I think) to stop that terminology from being used. It is defined as a benefit though.
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I'd be ok with means testing all benefits for all people - including redheads & shortsighted people. Not sure why wealthy old people should be any different from wealthy young people.
Righty ho, so under your system the incentive is to never get a job. Or else you can work hard, pay lots of tax, so other people don't have to. |
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Pretty sure I didn't say that.
You appear to have allowed your own political agenda to let you leap ahead by quite a few assumptions. |
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funny how you appear to consider concepts like poor and wealthy as situations people themselves have no influence over. there's nothing I have done that someone else in the uk couldn't have done for themselves.
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it's the inevitable outcome of your proposal. if you only get free money from other taxpayers if you are not wealthy, why would many people try to be wealthy? millions of people loved lockdown life and furlough, would have stayed on it forever if they could
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As I have told you before Cider - every man for himself does not work on many levels. Not least because when it all comes crashing down, all you free-marketeers and "risk-takers" are straight to the front of the queue, looking for one of the government hand-outs that you apparently don't believe in! Too big to fail, anybody?
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In your view what's the cut off. If someone is aged 68, what makes them poor enough to qualify for a £12K annual handout from other taxpayers?
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Also - I think you need to familiarise yourself with how the benefit system works. You imply that people with no ambition/aspiration can sign on for life.
I think the only benefit you can claim without having to review/renew eligibility at intervals - is (ironically) the state pension  |
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'sign on'
 pip is the standard option. earn the minimum for uc. fake carers. |
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Cider should be able to supply all the data for benefits TM, he has claimed them for long enough, the one time he tried to explain his " Job" he stated that the aim of the company he worked for was " Not to make a profit ", work that out?
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18486588.labour-mp-rosie-duffield-quits-party-whip-admitting-lockdown-breach/.
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As I said on the politics thread it's hardly comparable with the actions of the Prime Minister. I can only assume anyone digging up mud on Duffield thinks what Starmer did was correct. That's the issue now, not something that happened more than four years ago during Covid.
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Is there a Statute Of Limitations on wrongdoing or sleaze IYO DD? Those who collect toilets should not "Stow Thrones" if the do not expect breakages imvho!!
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Horseracing forum completely politicized now without doubt.
Politics and Religion cause nothing but arguments. Gone are the days of racing debate on upcoming racing and turf history. Political freds all over the place. Horseracing Forum finished. Au Revoir mon amis. |
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No point complaining Mac, try a racing thread and get the same dross e,g Diff and Dumb, same old who have no clue whether politics or racing industry, mostly jockey slagging etc from losing moaners?
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Cagliari and TM can always be found yapping away tbf….
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can you ever tell the truth Quixall?
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Cagliari and TM.....two cheeks of the same shi!!y arris.
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Basil the same rectum with a low IQ and inability to comprehend adulthood!!! HTH
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I put up a 7-1 yesterday as a very strong play, with workings and 2 people noticed (after it won). Horse racing debate predominately finished years ago, threads like this don't impact that.
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Some on here now rarely talk about racing.
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