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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 15 Aug 24 15:52
Harris has gone from 1.93 > 1.88 on here through today.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Aug 24 16:03
Trump seems to have dementia, thinks he's been president, not Biden.

How did they get into this mess.
By:
spyker
When: 15 Aug 24 16:44
At no point in any campaign or in any actual election has Trump come close to 50%+ in polls (i'm not talking about individual polls for Fox etc btw!). In a normal election year Trump (or any candidate obv) could get something like 20m less votes and still win. He could 'lose' by 3-4% and still win the election.
In a normal year the GOP  wood easily pick up the Senate and increase the maj in hor as its pretty favourable to them - well the tiny % of non gerrymandered and therefore competitive seats up for grabs favours the gop this cycle. However it seems Harris is even affecting that and a dem trifecta has gone from 'remote' to 'def possible'.
Aaaand people haven't even got stuck in to 'Project 25' yet!
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Aug 24 23:36
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1824194532390617154?s=19

..

Plain
By:
The Knight
When: 16 Aug 24 10:37
Watching Trump repeatedly ramble on about how nothing bad would have happened anywhere else in the world had he remained as President in 2020 is becoming amusing.


Then, on the day the US stock market rose 657 points he said the US was close to a Depression!

What Trump has forgotten is that no mater how much you slate your opponent, you still also have to say what you intend to do if you win. But, I agree with another poster.

How the US has got itself in this mess is beyond me. A current president who sadly seems on the verge of dementia, a male candidate (Trump) who really must be the most stupid man in the US - and that is not a high bar - and a female (Harris) with a nice line in trousers suits and who is good at waving at people but has no policies!!!

God help us all.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 16 Aug 24 10:47
A cult of personality is a group that idealizes a leader and shares common political, social, religious, or philosophical beliefs. Some characteristics of a cult of personality include:

    Leader
    The leader is often a public figure, such as a political leader, who is presented as a heroic or infallible figure. Leaders may use mass media and imagery to create a larger-than-life image of themselves. They may also be charismatic, highly convincing, and good at getting people to listen to and follow them.
    Followers
    Followers accept the leader's authority and devotion to their mission. They may also seek inappropriate loyalty to the leader and isolate members who try to leave.
    Propaganda
    Cults of personality often use propaganda and mass media control to exaggerate the leader's achievements and personal qualities to create a near-god-like status. They may also distort the truth and have no tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
    Other characteristics
    Cults of personality may also involve patriotism, mass demonstrations, and absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 16 Aug 24 10:50
Writing in 2013, Thomas A. Wright observed that "it is becoming evident that the charismatic leader, especially in politics, has increasingly become the product of media and self-exposure."

Focusing on the media in the United States, Robert N. Bellah added, "It is hard to determine the extent to which the media reflect the cult of personality in American politics and to what extent they have created it. Surely they did not create it all alone, but just as surely they have contributed to it. In any case, American politics is dominated by the personalities of political leaders to an extent rare in the modern world ... in the personalized politics of recent years the 'charisma' of the leader may be almost entirely a product of media exposure."
By:
smartpunter
When: 16 Aug 24 11:54
£26 million on trump still  three months  to go   just say  trump  won  how much  would Betfair make  on the   bet. unbelievable
By:
Hayden
When: 16 Aug 24 12:17
There's £50 million matched on the market so far smartpunter which is huge i agree but tbh virtually every match in the IPL Cricket would beat that for liquidity and they last less than 4 hours per match.
By:
smartpunter
When: 16 Aug 24 13:51
Well HAYDEN, ARE YOU  GOOD  AT  MATH'S. (APPROX)
By:
xmoneyx
When: 16 Aug 24 18:26
Trump chance of winning presidential election

16th of July, 2024: 72%

Now: 44%

(Polymarket)
By:
askjack
When: 16 Aug 24 20:33
Tick Hunters should make plans and watch the rollercoaster market closely.

18th September sentencing day for 'rumpy dumpty!

Lay to back the 'rump
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Aug 24 20:49
any bets struck?
By:
aberdonia
When: 16 Aug 24 21:22
Trump has very little chance of winning imo unless the economy really crashes....He always loses the popular vote, and is now losing in every swing state....His speeches have to be seen to be believed.....and very funny, the democrats are calling him and his running mate, weirdos....i wouldnt bet on the outcome mind, as the yanks are odd...especially the uneducated poor white working class, which is the trump core vote.
By:
The Knight
When: 16 Aug 24 23:21
Let's not forget that most elections both in the US and UK are decided by those who have no real attachment to either candidate..in other words, the undecided.

A lot of states are clearly Democrat or Republican but the swing states are where the vote is the most crucial.

Now, where Harris has an advantage is that in being an ethnic female, she will clearly appeal to many of the undecided ethnics and females.

Those who would never vote for an ethnic female are probably staunch Trump supporters all ready.

Also, Trump's bizarre ramblings will turn off many of those who are still undecided and waiting to see how the two candidates perform as the campaign hots up.

My money, and I have already bet a fair sum on it, is that Harris will win. Not by a landslide but by enough to stop Trump going on and on and on about the postal vote - which he did when defeated in 2020.
By:
diabolicalliability
When: 17 Aug 24 13:52
Head to head will decide.
By:
Ramruma
When: 17 Aug 24 16:26
Trump's only chance is as the Republican candidate.

Trump as Trump is a busted flush who has spent the last few years building up the Biden is senile narrative but against Kamala it is Trump who is 78 years old and rambling incoherently: hoist by his own petard.

But he is still the Republican candidate and so most Republican voters will hold their noses and vote for The Donald.
By:
Ramruma
When: 17 Aug 24 16:43
And God alone knows what JD Vance brings to the Republican ticket. Even Trump is said to be despairing of his VP pick running mate.
By:
yak hunt
When: 17 Aug 24 16:47
Both VPs have been incredibly helpful...to Harris.
By:
Ramruma
When: 18 Aug 24 09:11
On which note, Trump's next problem might be that voters start wondering what happens if JD Vance has to take over the presidency. Vance is tied to Project 2025 which Trump has been trying to distance himself from as too extreme.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 19 Aug 24 17:15
(Trump | Harris)

AZ (44% | 43%)
FL (48% | 43%)
GA (46% | 46%)
MI (45% | 44%)
MN (40% | 47%)
NV (43% | 42%)
By:
hologon
When: 20 Aug 24 22:49
And Trump is fav.again
By:
aberdonia
When: 20 Aug 24 23:15
the democrats have been outpolling the polls by 9% in actual elections.

trump will lose the popular vote by several million....His only hope is the
batty electoral college where he wins 4 or 5 states by very small margins.

i cant see him winning, but i would be betting on my opinion..
And he is an utter moron.
By:
aberdonia
When: 20 Aug 24 23:16
*wont be betting on my opinion.
By:
yak hunt
When: 21 Aug 24 07:48
Apparently, Trump is favourite again because it is rumoured that Kennedy is going to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.
By:
spyker
When: 21 Aug 24 12:58
That's what his VP nom says. I've no idea how that helps Trump much more than Harris tho as Ken support roughly 40/60 H/Tr (leaning to Trump anyway) and those dems who would vote dem/Ken almost certainly won't vote dem/trump. I'd ignore all polls until about 10days before tbh! I'm really not sure where Trump gains from here unless a huge mistake by Harris,
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 21 Aug 24 13:31
Harris is pretty awful off prompter and the big wave will die down. That said, Trump is a bit of a mess compared to his messages 8 years ago which were on point and well delivered to his supporters. If Trump brings back his 2016 energy then you could see him doing what he did to HRC, winning the election but losing the popular vote.

We could have had a more competent race in Pete Buttigieg vs Ron DeSantis but here we are again with 2 horrific candidates.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Aug 24 13:37
We could have had a more competent race in Pete Buttigieg vs Ron DeSantis but here we are again with 2 horrific candidates.

Spot on
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Aug 24 13:41
The thread on Politics was comedy gold , the Politics  judges  piling in to bet Biden

A couple of them on here  must have done their absolutes , if they actually place a bet that is .
By:
bellico
When: 21 Aug 24 14:17
Trump starting to sound very strange even by his own bizarre standards, Harris should say as little as possible and just let trump keep rambling on
By:
spyker
When: 21 Aug 24 14:22
She should take her sudoko to the debates and just let him rip!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Aug 24 16:30
Chances of winning
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Aug 24 16:32
Chances of winning US Presidential Election

Trump: 51% chance
Harris: 49% chance

(Based on polls and prediction markets)

democratic convention chicago hasn't moved the polls
By:
yak hunt
When: 21 Aug 24 21:48

Aug 21, 2024 -- 12:58PM, spyker wrote:


That's what his VP nom says. I've no idea how that helps Trump much more than Harris tho as Ken support roughly 40/60 H/Tr (leaning to Trump anyway) and those dems who would vote dem/Ken almost certainly won't vote dem/trump. I'd ignore all polls until about 10days before tbh! I'm really not sure where Trump gains from here unless a huge mistake by Harris,


I don't see Trump getting a significant advantage with Kennedy dropping out either.

By:
Regbutler
When: 23 Aug 24 22:27
BBC showing their bias as usual

Fawning over Harris and criticising Trump on the news

Both parties guilty of something I find hilarious
On the stage at the rallies they pretend to point out a particular person in the audience, as though they're an old friend and feign excitement, to make it a look like a personal thing
I'm sure it's a thing they are coached to do
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