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Report Charlie August 8, 2024 6:18 PM BST
I'm not one for being bullied. I actually posted reasonable stuff, well done on no violence. Some on here didn't like it which makes you think why not?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 8, 2024 10:00 PM BST
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/cctv-shows-teen-rioter-celebrating-29699985

18yr old looking at 3yr in clink...screaming 'im a child'  fckn doylem.
Report HappyHibby August 9, 2024 7:04 AM BST
i thoughtthis was a good link Mr.Hunt...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23y7l01v8o
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 10:32 AM BST
just uncredilbe hibs..get caught up in the heat of the moment and now most locked up for 16mths..

Declan Geiran
29 years old
Incident location: Liverpool

Convicted of:
• Violent disorder

• Setting fire to a police vehicle

sorry but should be 5yr and pay for the damage..and im no angel.
Report HappyHibby August 9, 2024 10:56 AM BST
no disagreement here Mr.Hunt...

criminal justice system in the whole of the UK is utterly ridiculous imv...

i saw on twitter this morning Stan Collymore posted a video of a bloke going nuts towards the driver...

well worth a look.
Report Joe Lampton August 9, 2024 11:34 AM BST
That bloke who set fire to the police vehicle got 2yrs 5months which thanks to the new government wanting to get people released quicker means he won't even do 1yr. Year inside for setting fire to a police vehicle and violent disorder. I'd say these sentences would encourage people not put them off. Thought the arson type offences would be longer to be honest. I'd say they've just gone for the easier charges to process them quicker by getting guilty pleas.
Report in hell August 9, 2024 11:54 AM BST
Is that the same Stan Collymore that gave his girlfriend a good kicking
Report Cider August 9, 2024 12:31 PM BST
What did the bloke who set fire to the police vehicle in Harehills get. Anyone know ?
Report Cider August 9, 2024 12:32 PM BST
Another chap was proudly setting fire to a bus during that riot I seem to recall.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 12:34 PM BST
Or the wonderful only fans lady that assaulted Farage.
Report HappyHibby August 9, 2024 1:05 PM BST
looks like BBC is publishing all the convicted folk here Cider...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23y7l01v8o
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:13 PM BST
Cheers Hib, but I don't view BBC content if possible.
Report Joe Lampton August 9, 2024 1:14 PM BST
The bloke who set fire to the bus in Harehills is due back in Crown Court on August 19th https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/dad-of-two-bus-fire-suspec...

See they charged him with "arson reckless as to endanger life". Likely get at least 4 years possibly 10 and also he won't be liable to the early release efforts in place due to sentence length. Could well make a significant example of him to illustrate there's no two tier policing.

Be interesting what those who set fire to the Hotel In Rotherham are charged with. They've just gone after the low hanging fruit so far. The big charges will be to come.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:15 PM BST
I'm all for rapid and strong justice, as long as it's not two tier in the application (somehow I don't believe that it won't be).
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:17 PM BST
Thanks Joe, obviously it came a long period before the riots after the slaughter in Southport. Perhaps if it was a swift and as public as they are making the recent prosecutions, the subsequent riots could have been avoided.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:27 PM BST
An OnlyFans model who threw a milkshake at Nigel Farage during the general election campaign has pleaded not guilty to assault.

Victoria Thomas Bowen, 25, confronted the Reform UK leader as he left the Moon and Starfish Wetherspoons pub in Clacton-on-Sea on June 4.

She was pictured throwing a McDonald’s banana milkshake into Mr Farage’s face, and was then arrested and charged with assault and criminal damage.

At Westminster magistrates court on Tuesday, she pleaded not guilty to both charges.

Deputy Chief Magistrate Tan Ikram set the case down for a trial on October 21, with Mr Farage set to be among the witnesses.


An interesting tactic, I'm sure it's not a waste of everyone's time and money.
Report Joe Lampton August 9, 2024 1:27 PM BST
What we know about the state and/or the police is when they get in a panic they care more about how things look than justice. Starmer gets to say there's been swift justice when in reality some of those charged are lucky they weren't charged with a higher offence. They wanted early guilty pleas and to rush them through. That bloke who set fire to the police van is lucky. Lets wait until we see what those who started the fire at Rotherham are charged with, these will be the larger sentences and interesting there's been nothing about this so far.

I agree the total inaction by the police at Harehills certainly played a part in the subsequent riots. It's ironic that those riots will likely mean that the bloke who set fire to the bus will be made an example of as they'll be super keen to show there isn't two tier policing.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:32 PM BST
Hopefully it will see a true levelling up Joe. I somehow doubt it as Starmer's mob despises these people and what they represent. So it's very easy. He will go up in my estimation if it remains consistent with people he has more sympathy with.

I think they are incredibly stupid, and no way in the world should they have been harming the cops or put anyone else in physical danger. But when the ballot box has failed so many times, and others are seen to get what they want through nefarious tactics, violence was inevitable.
Report in hell August 9, 2024 1:56 PM BST
I'm sure nobody will have a problem with hammering all these idiots with some justice, bang the stupid Only Fans girl up for 6 months, stops other twats doing it.

Not sure how they will handout any justice to the 2 louts in Manchester who gave the coppers a hiding at the Airport though.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 1:58 PM BST
From what I heard they are investigating more of the cops. No need for Mystic Meg to anticipate where it is going.
Report in hell August 9, 2024 2:02 PM BST
Think they will put charging the 2 hooligans in the bin as I can see the brothers kicking off big time and that won't look great.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 2:09 PM BST
That's the very root of two tier politics, policing and justice. I'm guessing obviously as it will never be disclosed, however I can imagine why the armed cops went in so gently and left themselves vulnerable. What we hear is that this event originated on the plane and then went all the way through the airport.
Report formoftheace August 9, 2024 2:44 PM BST
Wallsend have a millionaire so I believe…..
Report Charlie August 9, 2024 4:08 PM BST
It seems the politics thread is ok, very strange.
Report Charlie August 9, 2024 4:09 PM BST
this politics thread
Report howard August 9, 2024 4:13 PM BST
from the headline they just thought Rico had lost full bank laying 1.01
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 5:18 PM BST
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/four-rioters-who-took-p...
Report Cardinal Scott August 9, 2024 5:26 PM BST
Evening Chronicle a desperate newspaper these days.

Their primary focus seems to be covering the goings on of local gangsters.  I want to see its demise
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 5:41 PM BST
when i was headlines ive framed it..on kitchen wall.
Report Cardinal Scott August 9, 2024 5:43 PM BST
I did recall you telling the forum you had been in HMS Northumberland

I trust you're not the Ratboy of Byker wall. Laugh
Report Cardinal Scott August 9, 2024 5:45 PM BST
HMP rather HMS would be a battleship.
Report shiny new shoes please August 9, 2024 6:12 PM BST
Level up - bless

Avicii
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 6:19 PM BST
An interesting tactic, I'm sure it's not a waste of everyone's time and money.
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Everybody is entitled to a fair trial.

I look forward to reading her defence, and see if farrage
turns up.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:25 PM BST
There's no trial if you front up. And yes everyone has an opportunity to fight a defence, not matter how absurd it may appear.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:27 PM BST
Maybe the inevitable additional attention is net positive in the OF game.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 6:27 PM BST
caught on camera throwing the milkskae and not gillty your honour.

quite simply shouldnt be allowed to go not gillty.
Report penzance August 9, 2024 6:29 PM BST
Defence looks a bit shaky with it on camera.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:30 PM BST
In theory it should significantly escalate the penalty (assuming the obvious outcome), but the establishment won't be wanting to appear to be backing Farage in any way.
Report maleuk01. August 9, 2024 6:31 PM BST
She is just milking it for publicity
Report maleuk01. August 9, 2024 6:31 PM BST
She is just milking it for publicity
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:32 PM BST
scd 2025!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 6:40 PM BST
sour grapes..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 6:40 PM BST
Social media posters starting to see jail sentences
published at 17:25


Jamie Whitehead
Live reporter

Long sentences have been handed out today to people who encouraged disorder on social media.

Bradley Makin, 21, of Simonside Road, Springwell, Sunderland, who posted videos of himself "roaring encouragement" at rioters in Sunderland on his Instagram account, has been jailed for two years.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:44 PM BST
Not too promising for the Labour chap filmed physically advocating for throats to be slashed.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Although I was informed that the police tweeted the video clip of him doing it. No shortage of irony there !
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 6:51 PM BST
Ex labour councillor remanded in custody, I think.

Rightly so, idiot.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 6:56 PM BST
On a 'peace' march ! A rare window into the far left, let his guard down. Bl00dy adrenalin.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 7:13 PM BST
Odd that you criticise him but not the thousands of racist far rage rioters.
Report impossible123 August 9, 2024 7:20 PM BST
A couple of anti-racism marchers engaging physically with other anti-immigration marchers were sentenced to 20 months and 30 months earlier.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 7:31 PM BST
Criticised them on this very thread, today. Don't go round spreading misinformation tho, it's getting pretty precarious Grin

I think they are incredibly stupid,
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 7:42 PM BST
For being racist, or for showing up farrage?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 7:43 PM BST
most of the population are thicker thsan mandingo's c0ck..staggering.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 7:56 PM BST
The vast majority of those involved in the violence are thugs who'd take any opportunity for a punch up with the police. Quite likely there are some racists in there too.

'far right racist' is a simple brush for a pretty complex situation, and there were many factors that fed into the disorder.

As I posted earlier, anyone getting involved in physical harm or criminal damage is incredibly stupid. Anyone engaging in demonstrable racist activity should be called out on it.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 8:03 PM BST
fwiw I feel like Farage dropped a bollock leaning on unverified reports about the murder suspect in Southport. 99.9% of the time he is very reliable in what he amplifies, so why he went down the route of for example leaning on the unsubstantiated claim the suspect was known to the authorities I don't know (we still don't actually know if he was or wasn't). We can't see it now but on Politics I was urging people to be careful referencing those reports, it smelt fishy to me, and it proved to be so. He should admit to the error in my view, nobody is perfect.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 9, 2024 8:08 PM BST
Cider 09 Aug 24 19:56 
The vast majority of those involved in the violence are thugs who'd take any opportunity for a punch up with the police.

most just sheep. (imo)
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 8:11 PM BST
Farrage eternally linked to right wing echo chambers.

Reports out of Russia.... Hey, same old.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 8:15 PM BST
There's a reckless disposition there. Growing up in London I went to many many places that were fighting pubs and clubs, and if you wanted a punch up you could easily find one. Every now and then a completely innocent person bumps into the wrong man, but most times any getting involved in fights wants to beat their chests and prove how hard they are. What we saw in my view was an awful lot of those types show up. It was not coordinated far right groups travelling hundreds of miles like the legacy media and authorities tries to gaslight us with. The actual coordination game from the so called anti racist protests on Wednesday, and the legacy media preparing everyone for something that was never going to happen.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 8:32 PM BST
In yer dreams.

But in reality they found plenty who had travelled.

All towns, cities have their idiots, who found local
footy club, it's been that way for years.

The networks already exist, and were also used for good.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 8:35 PM BST
What's the evidence for mass coordination of 'far right' groups causing the rioting?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 8:38 PM BST
Social media...

Are you blind.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 8:41 PM BST
Farrage pointing at hotels from his chauffeur driven limo.

Stevie multy-name tweeting from his all inclusive
in Cyprus

Loser Fox, abigale grapeshot, failed apprentice etc etc
Report Cider August 9, 2024 8:42 PM BST
actual evidence

and I don't use, view or read social media. sometimes I'll look at a link posted elsewhere, such as the Labour chap advocating through slitting. or hear/read about it being discussed.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 8:43 PM BST
throat
Report lux August 9, 2024 8:53 PM BST
Off the top of my head - 52% of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, 67% would not give police a tip off if they thought somebody close to them was involved in a terrorist plot, 27% expressed sympathy with the Charlie Hebdo terrorists...

but don't worry about any of that cos "muh far right"
Report lux August 9, 2024 8:54 PM BST
tommy ten names, civ nat liberal, its far right dont you know
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 8:54 PM BST
Yes of course, but, obviously I ain't linking to them.

Loads of sh1te on yootoob, which you can tell by the
way the same folk say the same stuff, just like
you could tell blokes in the pub which paper they read
based on their patter.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:01 PM BST
As opposed to the independent of thought liberalists Grin obviously people with similar world views use similar language, that occurs on all sides.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:03 PM BST
not sure two tier kier will catch on with the guardianistas in the same way as cruella did
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 9:07 PM BST
But you are talking about the social media arranging the farrage riots.

Of course there is discourse between like minding folk, but
generally not off pat sh1te off yootube.

Trump,farrage, moon landings, 9/11,... Etc
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 9:08 PM BST
Like minded
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:11 PM BST
pedo westminster ring, ruskie hoax, tufton street
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:14 PM BST
I do use you tube but not ordinarily current affairs. just mild entertainment, currently I'm viewing a lot of bodycam footage from US cops. car stuff like salvage rebuilds, fail army et al.
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:17 PM BST
oh and obviously finance stuff, eg James Shack
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 9:19 PM BST
Not sure why when discussing farrage riots you pretend not to have seen the stuff
and produce a string of tangents and whataboutery.

Like all the others....
Report Cider August 9, 2024 9:28 PM BST
lol at the lack of self awareness, 'farrage riots'

way the same folk say the same stuff,

not whataboutery, it's demonstrating the hypocrisy. all sides of politics use social media to amplify their views. and they use exaggeration and spiky language to achieve it. but you are in complete denial when it is people and organisations you have sympathy with doing it.
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 9, 2024 9:31 PM BST
papa Louis - 2-30 Newmarket.

Thanks Imlac.
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 9, 2024 9:32 PM BST
Oops sorry ,Wrong Forum.!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 9, 2024 9:44 PM BST
I've been calling him farrage for ages, all my own work.

But yes more tangents obfuscation, and whataboutery.

2029,lol,forever the riot 'king mp.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 10, 2024 10:30 AM BST
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13728419/Riot-bin-ladies-jailed-nearly-FIVE-YEARS-total-Mother-five-fell-flat-face-pushing-blazing-wheelie-bin-laughing-ex-flight-attendant-deliberately-ran-officers-locked-up.html

another world now for these female sillleekkhhunts.
Report Cider August 10, 2024 12:23 PM BST
More evidence of the heavily coordinated 'far right' Crazy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 10, 2024 12:55 PM BST
More evidence of the damage done by heavily coordinated 'far right


Fixed it
Report Cider August 10, 2024 1:25 PM BST
when do the tactical masterminds get their show trial Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 10, 2024 1:40 PM BST
feds at airport waiting for tommy.
Report Joe Lampton August 20, 2024 2:53 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5rkxdxdrwo

Latest of the bloke who set fire to bus in Harehills. He's pled guilty to the arson but looks like it's a lower charge as it's reckless rather than intended to endanger life. Haven't charged him with any riot based offence. Means could likely get 2-4 years rather than anything more. We'll see. back in court on 29th Aug.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2024 4:17 PM BST
mother of 6 got 20mth yesterday..carpet munching tonite.
Report HappyHibby August 20, 2024 6:02 PM BST
is that the one who threw a brick at the cops Mr.Hunr ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2024 6:10 PM BST
aye
Report HappyHibby August 20, 2024 6:14 PM BST
silly lassie.
Report FOYLESWAR August 20, 2024 6:31 PM BST
dishing out more porridge than quaker oats
Report sparrow August 21, 2024 3:29 PM BST
The Forum Shopping Centre, Segedunum Way, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, 16th November 1989
Report Cardinal Scott August 21, 2024 3:41 PM BST
That Boots is still there
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2024 3:46 PM BST
im syre i scene scotty in cash converters other day..
Report HappyHibby September 6, 2024 1:06 PM BST
9 YEARS for Rotherham bloke.
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2024 1:10 PM BST
longest yet! but they were endangering not only migrants lives but also hotel staff
Report HappyHibby September 6, 2024 1:12 PM BST
long list of offences FOYLESWAR.
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 6, 2024 10:18 PM BST
After looking back at that footage I can't help thinking why the use of water cannons wasn't endorsed ?? Skittle the protesters and put the fire out at the same time, jobs a good un.!
Report HappyHibby September 7, 2024 9:09 AM BST
i think Boris Johnson bought water cannons for London when he was Mayor...

and Theresa May booted them out...

something like that anyway...

i agree water cannons are good and the UK should have them and use them.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 7, 2024 10:19 AM BST
sentences like these are needed to set precedents..no problem with it.

but,plenty have done the same..meanwhile bloke who torched police car get 30 mths?
Report Cardinal Scott September 9, 2024 12:40 PM BST
I cycled past that location yesterday.



Make Wallsend Great Again
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 9, 2024 3:35 PM BST
where chisholms is now?
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