england penalty

Mitolo, yes you're right and you can't blame them.The Dutch the only country in Europe that like and thanks the British.

i like the cloggies. a very civil and clever nation. also the tallest in the world. why do you think that is? no cheating

strange decision..kane had already connected with ball when he made contact with defenders foot.

Yep seems the general consensus on here is no pen. Couldnt believe it was given.....bonkers

I suspect there are quite a few Scots, Welsh and Irish contributing to this thread Going into a challenge with a foot that high is clearly dangerous play and a penalty all day long, the woman pundit is clueless, and Gary Neville has always been an idiot. England, England, England.

Sour grapes is an awful condition to shoulder. In all likelihood England can now go and win this as Spain arent the great side they were five plus years ago. Lord only knows how you guys will feel when England are crowned CHAMPIONS.

Won't get a luckier penalty than that.
Hopefully go on & win it now.

There hasnt been an outstanding team in this tournament, England could quite easily win now, Spain are no great shakes. Southgate could be the spoiler if he decides to bring TAA back into the team, tonights team selection looked good, and balanced prematch and so it proved.

basilbrush • July 10, 2024 10:54 PM BST
I suspect there are quite a few Scots, Welsh and Irish contributing to this thread Laugh Going into a challenge with a foot that high is clearly dangerous play and a penalty all day long, the woman pundit is clueless, and Gary Neville has always been an idiot. England, England, England. LaughLaughLaugh

so Kane should've been pulled up for a foul too then? You utter muppet.

So, had Kane's shot gone in would there have been a VAR check and would the Dutch guy been booked? Of course not.

I am stunned that a penalty was contrived out of that. And, sorry to say, it looks like it was contrived.

VAR has ruined football and given the opportunity for ego-bound officials to step in and play a part when there was no part for them to play.

Why did they review it anyway? Did the referee make a 'clear an obvious error'? And then the weak as pi*s ref runs over, takes one look and gives the penalty.

It might all seem great for England to have some good luck for a change but VAR will eventually spell the end of football if it is used so unjustly.

But after 52 year of gambling I know that a really outrageous slice of luck either way very often balances itself out very quickly. So, let us not be surprised if luck - and politics within the ruling elite of the game - combone to trun England over in the final....

Studs were lower than knee. So 100% not high. Tackle after the shot.

Maybe officials didn’t see it has they fainted when seeing Kane have a shot on target. Woke up. Presumed there must be an error. There’s no way lane could be in the box and shoot. So just gave a pen.

Southgate. V Swiss we mustn’t make subs cos need kane on for pens.

Souhgate v Holland. Let’s take Kane off at 80 mins. Maybe crappy striker might nick one late on.

First time in 10 years he’s subbed Kane. Then player gets winner.

Kane said that after that 'dreadful' foul his foot was almost hanging off. The team have been carrying him all tournament.

never had a combone

a trombone much more my thing

tolo, you like a bit of brass?

Shud have been a Straight red , Done harry with his Studs

The hill The Complete football expert

First time in 10 years he’s subbed Kane. Then player gets winner.

Southgate. V Swiss we mustn’t make subs cos need kane on for pens.

As  for the OP hates England and is a Gentleman of the Wrist .

who gives a fook penalty or no penalty  ya take what year get and we are in the final ,to get to the semis we played ugly but better to win ugly than lose playing beautifully ........ask Italy French etc ..would you swap with England .........they'll bite yer fooking arm off!

Dumfries is liability,but that was NEVER a penalty.

maradonnas hand of god  went against us ,our turn for a bit of luck !

apparently it is the rules ,they looked at the bar and gave it bit harsh but rules are rules !

var^^^^

Just relieved we were on the fortunate of VAR last night.

Premier league had the chance to vote it out a couple of month's ago and copped out.

So no moaning from Managers this season?

I'm with the minority that thought it was a penalty - the way to judge is imagine that tackle happening in a midfield area, and ref gives a free kick (maybe card) every time.

Zzzz who cares

Obv plenty who thought it wasn't a penalty form

it was a penalty if there was doubt it wouldna been given after var!

What about the Saka handball in the penalty box, immeadiately before Kane shot - clearly the right call on the whole incident was free kick to Holland, yet Var never even looked at that!

never see it !

All will be clear on Sunday evening…..

Hate in these situations when people always say something like if that was anywhere else on the pitch the ref would have given a foul. Giving a foul in a non dangerous area like the halfway line and awarding a penalty for a similar incident always have to be two separate things imho.To give a penalty it has to be a 100% foul in the box and that certainly wasn't as if anything Kane kicked Dumfries.

The player was beaten to the ball and left his leg out with studs showing. Had a player gone for the ball, missed it and a running player fallen over the leg it would have been a penalty.
It was a penalty.

Ive really noticed the difference in referee's interpretations of the laws of the game across Europe

Its russian roulette depending on what referee you get as to whether you get a decision

Its most noticeable is with handball and the difference in interpretation between the Champions league and premier league. Even penalties given for handball in the SPL would never be given in the EPL


We were lucky to get a referee who would give that as a penalty although I'm sure it wouldnt have been given in the EPL

I suppose the argument that it would be a foul anywhere else on the pitch should be valid but we all know that the refs have a higher threshold for a foul in the penalty box which is wrong and a deviation of the laws of the game

Dusty's post is spot on - the screaming and wailing (even from some English commentators) that it wasn't a penalty is ridiculous. It was a perfectly fair penalty decision, from a player who didn't know how to challenge within the game's rules.

gary lineker will be gutted if england win been talking england down and few with him

If it had been given against England people would have been talking about it for years.

It was never a penalty,no England player even claimed for a penalty, Kane catches the guy with his follow through.I watch some e Bundesliga and they give pens for ridiculous things ,they can thank them appointing German officials ,though how they missed Declan Rice and his wrestling moves at corners I don't know.

Someone tell Ollie Yamal is not 16 he is 17

There’s a funny meme going around of Stephen Flynn scotch SNP baldy at an earlier match of scotchland’s

And it says poor Flynn has supported 6 sides at this tournament and yet to see a win

Very interesting but did Flynn think it was a penalty?

Ridiculous penalty. Thankfully it went for us. It would’ve been talked about for years had it gone against us.

Personal interpretation of fouls is still my biggest gripe with VAR.

Who cares what Flynn thinks about owt?
The point is swings and roundabouts, except if your scotch and it’s just slides.

I think Spain will score at least 4 tomorrow……tbf…..they seem to be the only team in the competition who are brave enough to go forward,instead of side to side looking petrified and then back to the keeper……which ain’t football entertaining imv

it does not matter wether ya think its a penalty or not ,nothing anyone can do about it ..........its history now !

All the snide remarks are hilarious
Objective is to win not look pretty

Last two teams are the ones who do that the most effective, all the others thumb their arse while watching

Lochy tipping up Spain is the best thing I’ve heard today! England 1-0 must be nailed on now!

i thought spain would win it before it started but i traded out a few days ago, they've played well and maybe they are due a bad one, conversely england have done it the other way, they might be coming good at the right time and i'm thinking that they may win the final simply because they can't keep being cr@p

Plunge Kenbo…..I bet you don’t tho…tbf

I can see it as can most tbf…rice to stones back to coco kicked out and back….petrified from the thought of silver imo

I rarely back any team to win a game, Lochy. Definitely won’t be tomorrow either. This is one I’m happy to sit back and watch. Our second Euro final in succession!

You seethe away until then. It’s your last chance at hoping we fail.

I don’t want to spend the next 30 odd years with mute in hand listening to howl and squawk,even the evening news readers are howling ffs

Sorry but come on the technical team……

if i were you id back england because either way you win

England were good against Netherlands especially first half
Can’t say that for any of the other home nations, maybe they are saving themselves for the next comp pmsl

It sounds like there’s plenty of news coverage north of the border on it then. Do all Scots tune in to watch our matches? I think I’ve watched Scotland play three times in the last decade and that was all in the last month.

The problem with var refs,the on field ref seems scared that the var ref is somehow a better ref.
Never do you see a ref go to screen,then insists on same descision.

The var ref should say,check screen to make sure if happy,but they seem to be saying,we think that’s a foul are you sure it wasn’t.so the on field ref pannicks,thinks he ll be dropped from games in future,so caves in to var.

It might be better,to do away with var refs,and just get on field to check screen after big calls.but the on field is the only one allowed to make the descision,with no input from var.

The Dutch were dreadful after they scored…..

Brave Spain with technical skill all round scoring for fun against side to side and back wondering what to do next …..not good tbf

I doubt England will be brave enough to go at them early,it’s what Spain do for fun

I won’t play Kenbo,but I will play on Kinross to win the July cup at Newmarket….

They pass side to side and back because there’s 8/9 defenders in front of them,

If Spain attack,there’ll be plently of room to pass through them.

A very good horse. I’ve got Vadream in an ew Lucky!

The old saying about making your own luck comes to mind

All this analysis by fans of teams not present misses the point entirely…you could have been boring or whatever else and been here, but you ain’t
And the years of talking about a team could have been about your team but it ain’t

Just like Scotland qualifiers, was all going to be so different, then England waltzed up and humiliated em, and then their tourney was already over.

Most English fans don’t want to see the back four passing it to each other, it pisses us off watching it. It’s even more annoying when the ball is at Pickford’s feet seconds after taking a corner. It didn’t happen anywhere near as much in the last game. They were also great in the first half.

Teams pass side to side because they don’t have too many Gazza type to split defenders and make or score….

I’ve switched off many a game because of pass the parcel….

Scotland are average dusty,we all know that it’s irrelevant…..

All eyes will be on the young Spaniard tomorrow…..

You’re far from average, Lochy, you’re fairly poor. Qatar are ranked above you in the world rankings! Plenty of other ‘poor’ teams are above you too.

All good teams end up doing it,because opposition park bus.
Hence why pep likes keepers who play football,has they become part of the attack.as Barcelona and Real Madrid basically face bus Parker’s every week.
As England do in qualifiers v Moldova and San Marino.


The thread is about England pen,you need a bit of luck to win,this was their luck,normally the luck is against england

It’s not irrelevant, this is tournament football.
Everyone can talk about how swashbuckling they would have been if they had qualified or been in it at the end
It’s about getting there.

Few teams keep up from the start all the way through
England are in this position because of how they played.

2 European finals on the trot and a WC semi

You can be as bored as you like, think anyone gives a 5hit?

..and Scotland arn’t average, they are lower championship in a world of internationals

Not a good advertisement for football down south Kenbo in below average tbf….most of them play down there….

The team has been lucky dusty tbf…..the overhead fluke saved them from an early flight …tbh

Barring Robertson and the Englishman (Mctominay) you haven’t got any PL players at any of the top five clubs. They are mainly at Championship level teams. There’s a big gulf between the elite and those a league lower.

Fine line Kenbo…lots of overpaid in the premier tbf…..

Always lucky eh

Why Scotland never lucky?

You earn your stripes by beating quality to get seeded, that means you are more likely to qualify
The more you qualify the more likely you are to go the distance

It’s all obvious stuff
Scotland just can’t do it

Must be all the great football they play

Scotland are a small nation

England have more to choose although you wouldn’t think so looking at the origin of most of the premier,and the current team tbf…

Over the past 40 years we have an endless list of class players who were snapped up by the big clubs down south.

Dalgleish

Souness

Law…..Bla Bla Bla I could type all night dusty tbf…..

Stones,the silly one in goal and Foden are born English bred….imv…

We’d have Robertson of you. He could fill in while Shaw is out injured. Other than that we want any of your players. How many of our starting eleven would walk into your first team? All of them?

Your list is scraping the barrel a bit. Any from this century?

May the best team win…..

Officially, that is us!

The old adage applies to Scotland

They are a country of selfish individuals, just like the clansmen stabbing each other in the back

You might have a few decent sportsmen in personal pursuits, but tea wise you don’t have a single success to name

There was that 1978 or whatever it was…
Where you did nowt.

Kane will be kicking a lot of defenders now and rolling around

Scotland have produced quite a lot dusty tbf……they gave you the phone,sewage and road surface to name a few

The list is endless tbf

Kent fruits and veg I’ll give you that …

We could supply you with clean fresh water if willing to pay…

DONE HAZZA WITH THE STUDS , SHUDDA BEEN A STAIGHT RED

The problem with var refs,the on field ref seems scared that the var ref is somehow a better ref.
Never do you see a ref go to screen,then insists on same descision.




That's because ref is only brought to screen when var think he's made a mistake.

He's not brought to screen to check he's got it right.

dustybin13 Jul 24 14:46Joined: 29 Dec 08 | Topic/replies: 27,362 | Blogger: dustybin's blog

All the snide remarks are hilarious

Hilarious yes, but the anti English hatred is so evident its hard to ignore. No Ifs, no maybes, defender goes in studs up in the box is dangerous play and a certain penalty. Im not even sure Scotland/Wales can even be consdiered footballing nations no wonder they hate the English so much.

Scotland desperately need some role models from somewhere to cheer on, another Jackie Stewart, Jockey Wilson, Billy Bremner, Alan wells, Chris Hoy or similar, must be awful being hopeless at everything except hating the English.

I have come across more Welshmen who want England to get stuffed than Scotsmen tbf.

I dont doubt it mate, its absolutely sickening, if England are out most of England then supports the Scots, Irish and Welsh, the hatred is vomit inducing.

I am Scottish and will be shouting for England Tomorrow.

Good man..... I would be supporting Scotland if the roles were reversed, I despair at all this division and hatred, it beggars belief.

No hatred from this end,banter is part of life some can handle it others can’t…..I think Spain are a better team and will lift the trophy…..opinion..

Lol my two nephews are English so it wouldn’t look good uncle David showing hate ffs….i expect exchange of banter during the game…..

Hate is a strong word don’t chuck it around….

For it to be banter you’d need something of your own instead of being the c0ck **** of each of England’s opposition as they get defeated.

You need a little bit more to be proud of other than ‘there was a headline in a newspaper once in the 1970’s that said Scotland might get out the group this time’….but didn’t.

not sure why people knock scotland when they probably over perform for the players they have, whilst eng definitely don't and could be argued bottled the last euros final

Proud of what ffs get a life c0ck

Sincere condolences.