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By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 10:24
layingisthewayforward 06 Jul 24 10:06 
Sparrow you've told us 12 times there was a referendum, we get it.  People can still discuss it imo.




So do you think referendum results should be ignored?
By:
hulk23
When: 06 Jul 24 10:33
Party              Candidate    Votes    %   
Conservative      Matt Warman    31,963    76.7   
Labour              Ben Cook    6,342    15.2   
Liberal Democrats Hilary Jones    1,963    4.7   
Independent      Peter Watson    1,428    3.4   
Majority                    25,621    61.4   

tories had a 61.4% majority in Boston and Skegness in 2019, took 76.7% of the votes. 

and lost out to Reform, absolute belter of a result.
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 10:46
The Boston and Skegness constituency in Lincolnshire has been won by Richard Tice with a majority of 2,010 votes. The election saw Tice beat the other six candidates and secure a victory for his party.

The constituency has long been a stronghold for the Conservative party, with Matt Warman holding the position of MP from 2015 to 2024, and before that Mark Simmonds held the role from 2001 until 2015 after being elected three times.

Warman achieved 13,510 votes, with some Conservatives spotted in tears as they realised they had lost the seat.
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 10:47
Just a load of silly old brexiteers there when all is said and done.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 11:30
The chief beneficiary of this election are the Liberals with 71 seats (from 8) despite getting 500k lesser votes than Reform (5 seats). And, to a lesser extent Labour with just 1.6% more votes than in 2019, but with 211 more seats.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 06 Jul 24 11:31
If nothing gets done under PR. Then what's the difference?

Nothing was done over energy for decades. Nothing has been done over water supply for decades. Nothing has been done to make the NHS work properly.
The list goes on.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 11:49
The two utilities ie Energy and Water were bought by foreign entities courtesy of British shareholders and pension funds for a quick buck usually just prior to annual x'mas bonus. How the heck could these have been allowed? Where was the M%M Commission?

These utilities are sacrosanct and should not have been sold to foreign entities. This was the main cause of the increase in the cost of living and Putin/Ukraine War.

Now, with the mega dividends mis-appropriated/siphoned by foreign shareholders over the necessary minimum investment required to maintain production level/ability some of these utilities could be on their last legs and major investments needed to return them to post sale levels.

Personal greed supersedes national interests - that's the story of the present UK (business) mentality.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 06 Jul 24 11:51
Conservatives lost it,when Boris cracked under the pressure of Covid,where Churchill stood up to Herr H when some of his cabinet wanted capitulation Boris started listening to all and sundry showing that he had no backbone.
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 12:04
Correct, impossible.  We sell off all our important utilities and then complain when it all goes wrong.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 12:14
I think Bojo was good at Covid containment post personal experiences. But, he'd too many skeletons in his closet to be an effective PM eg the main one being Partygate; 2nd, repeatedly and knowingly 'lying' to Parliament. He was also a wounded PM at the mercy of his sycophantic colleagues with vested interests.

Conservatives definitely lost the election - no doubt about that. They were pulling in opposite/different directions; Ms Truss did not help. Mr Sunak was also weak, and not a good leader - he was a fudged-pot; they deserved what they got on thursday.

Hopefully, Sir Starmer and his charisma-less personality can take a more forthright, determined and lawyer-like discipline approach to British politics and holding public offices. I think some in his Cabinet are experienced, qualified and capable in making the UK respectable again.

I firmly believe UK is a better proposition than the mish-mash EU.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 06 Jul 24 12:42
This time the Conservatives(Sunak)did the dirty on Labour by leaving the coffers bare.
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 13:07
All governments leave debt.....ie The National Debt.
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Jul 24 13:36
I think all figures would have been available , Reeves 1st statement "Nee Money" Laugh  I wonder what's coming our way
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Jul 24 13:44
then complain when it all goes wrong.

I'm not Complaining , I know it will go Wrong ,in a big fookin way , Bar the Islamic Links this Mob are no different to the Tories

just a little bit more Wokery , This country is Fooked , The daily Bote Line up will be like the Grand National  ,Reeves Number one

Job Raising Money For new comers , As for Nut Zero Energy Where's the Money for that ?

there are 6 million in this Country dependent in Some way on Benefits , Plenty of free Grants For Heat Pumps Required
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 13:48
The woman dressed in green yesterday shouldn’t have been allowed in the door….
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 13:54
Who was the woman?
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 13:57
His sidekick,ex carer and union rep…..

Certainly not government material imv
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 13:58
No respect the way of dress …no respect for the fodder imo….
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 06 Jul 24 14:03
SHE GOT THAT DRESS FROM A CHARITY SHOP £15
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 14:04
Ms Rayner? I think she's ok. It's never easy for a woman who's womanly and attractive; she's bound to come under the scrutiny of some boyos. She's come a long way from her teenage years; she's making a comfortable life for herself. I think her new post ie in charge of building new affordable homes could put her in the spotlight again unless she treads carefully and intelligently.
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 14:04
Imagine Thatcher looking down at her dressed in circus outfit…dear god …
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 14:06
Remember, this is Labour not a fashion show. She's no Ms Cumani; attended expensive boarding school to end up presenting horseracing with Mr Chamberlin - the horseracing void.
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 14:07
Plenty of snobbishness going on here alright.
By:
Deptford
When: 06 Jul 24 14:09
It matters not who is in charge, they dont give a flying fook about anyone but themselves the country is fooked,
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jul 24 14:10
Managed to say Thatcher but incapable of mentioning the name Rayner.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 06 Jul 24 14:11
look in a years time see what been done think it will be nothing
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Jul 24 14:13
Rayner was Sporting a pair of old Green Curtains
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 14:17
Women must dress properly and have a presence to gain respect,reading the comments regarding this tells you everything….

Time will tell tho’

We could start with the vomit inducing malarkey going on in Birmingham dancing in the streets with swords and other medieval knives and not a plod in sight..

Try that in Scotland you’ll be looking at 5 years in the can…
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 14:20
sparrow 06 Jul 24 14:10 
Managed to say Thatcher but incapable of mentioning the name Rayner

Rayner….
By:
The Management
When: 06 Jul 24 14:23
Maggie is currently negotiating a deal to sell off the Pearly Gates - to the lowest bidder.
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 14:31
Watch with interest the action taken regarding the undocumented invading the shores…..
By:
tanglefoot
When: 06 Jul 24 14:34
Labour looking for the gold reserves Grin
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 14:37
Gordon Brown sold off our gold bars cheaply; Maggie Thatcher privatizing our utilities and affordable homes. I bet these two individuals did not venture into foreign exchange and properties.
By:
Jumper45
When: 06 Jul 24 14:38

Jul 6, 2024 -- 1:54PM, impossible123 wrote:


Who was the woman?


I believe he is referring to the Deputy Prime Minister

By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 14:48
Thanks 'Jumper'. I think Ms Rayner is lacking a wee bit of confidence because of her teenage years hence the self-consciousness and insecurity; her over-assertive verbal reply could be a testament to that.
By:
thelatarps
When: 06 Jul 24 14:52
I have to admit I dont understand the world as I get older. Social media influencers, AI Chat GPT.  All this carp.
Think people like me are getting left behind.
The only candidate i did 'get' in the election was Farage. But I am an old lefty so I can never vote for him. Just put the X next to the Labour bod & wondered what have I done...

From my bare understanding of economics, government finances will rely on economic growth. With growth, revenues increase and the national debt gets smaller. Rachel Reeves worked for Mark Carney at the Bank of England, who was for my money the best BOE guv'nor in living memory.. I should imagine that Lab will step aside & just let events take their course. The GDP will rise without any big government decisions. And then its happy days, relatively. The UK is a rich country after all.

I do remember when Blair took over. All the talk was that Labour would crash the economy. Then Gordon Brown announced he was handing monetary policy to the BoE. And with one fell swoop the Tories disappeared into anonymity.
Wouldnt be at all surprised if recent history repeated itself.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Jul 24 14:57
As Chancellor Gordon Brown gave us the longest run of economic growth this country had ever seen.  And when it did eventually turn sour it was because of the global financial meltdown that affected all developed countries.

We never had crumbling public services under Blair/Brown we didn't have food banks.

As for selling off gold.

*****BOTH PARTIES HAVE SOLD OFF GOLD RESERVES*****

and the amount what Gordon Brown sold was minor compared to what others sold off.




Furthermore if it wasn't for Gordon Brown we would have been using Euros not Pounds (and Brexit would never have happened) And this site would not exist because he scrapped betting tax too.
By:
Gagging
When: 06 Jul 24 14:58
she thinks women have penises?
By:
formoftheace
When: 06 Jul 24 14:58
I don’t think it’s too difficult to run a country tbf…..takes spine to rid a rodent tho….

The list of innocent people slaughtered in the streets is vomit inducing…..

That is where Thatcher comes into the argument……

The Nottingham beast is one example along with the Somalian vermin with evil history….
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Jul 24 14:58
After the Banking crisis ie bank oF england took their eye off the ball and allowed lenders to lend blindly and unprofessionally another free reign is most unlikely; a monitored- approach with only the necessary intervention - if and when necessary - I think.

Mark Carney was very capable, independent and astute in managing UK Banking. He was good for UK Plc.
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