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05 Jul 24
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And a 200seat majority, wow
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pandora1963 04 Jul 24 21:15
RED TORIES UNDER 396 SEATS. nuther kapooting for dora.. |
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Can you imagine voting for someone who wanted to mandate the dangerous potions?
He should be on trial for crimes against humanity imo but here he is being voted in as Prime Minister. What is this, Stockholm Syndrome? |
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general election turnout:
Were the figure to fall below 59.4%, it would rank as the lowest turnout at a general election since the Second World War. I suppose there is some hope here that people are no longer being taken in by the two cheeks on the same globalist controlled arris. https://x.com/bobscartoons/status/1798392267746734176 |
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"Chris Philp re-elected as Croydon South MP in shock result and hints at Tory leadership bid
MP held on to constituency despite an exit poll suggesting he had only a one per cent chance of doing so" Hmmm. |
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Croydon South is a fairly middle class area and not a ghetto like its neighbours. I think it was a protest vote eg Reform was not in 2nd, and voting for Labour with its Islamist and extremist factions was not a viable option either. As such, Conservative was the best option.
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I take it the OP means fewer.
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Reform 15% Voteshare = 4 seats
Lib Dem 13% Voteshare = 71 seats  |
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Reform 15% Voteshare = 4 seats
Labour 35% Voteshare = 412 seats |
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It's ridiculous the vote share and seats thing
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Voting system referendum in 2011, so how did you vote hulk?
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merely pointing out the anomalies it can throw up.
roughly 1 in every 6 people voted for Reform. and they will be represented in parliament by 4 people. |
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The greens and the libs have been putting up with that for decades tbf
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4 people too many
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I would wager that the majority of people on this thread voted against a change of system in 2011.
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Yes sparrow, I bet they did. The problem with PR is nobody would ever end up with a majority and therefore very little gets done. The "democracy" that we have is very unfair and it's a joke to call it a democracy - but it's very practical.
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Agreed TM, especially when we look at countries who use a PR system and end up with a ragbag of individuals forming a government.
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LABOUR WITH LESS VOTES THAN 2019
I know, great isn't it? |
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LABOUR WITH LESS VOTES THAN 2019
I know, great isn't it? |
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Farage will fight for PR all the way, its so much fairer, otherwise nothing changes
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I'm not a supporter of PR just as much as the present 1st past the post voting system. I believe PR will not and does not allow any key policies being carried out efficiently, speedily and successfully. Imagine a PLC making decisions by a body of individuals and not senior experienced management headed by the CEO or Chairman. This could be disastrous for the company concerned and its future progress, status and survival.
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that's the way it rolls, still weird to think that despite a landslide victory 2 people in every 3 people that voted didn't want labour to be in charge
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its a failed system, all of them out is the only thing I could vote for
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In 2019 the Tories increased their national vote by 300,000 & gained 47 seats. The Lib Dems incresed their national vote by 1.5 million & were rewarded by losing one seat. In 2019 there was not a peep. Why the outrage now?
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wonders I'd be happy if they made it compulsory to vote (with a "none of the above" option)
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Lee Ho Fooks 05 Jul 24 14:48
In 2019 the Tories increased their national vote by 300,000 & gained 47 seats. The Lib Dems incresed their national vote by 1.5 million & were rewarded by losing one seat. In 2019 there was not a peep. Why the outrage now? Can't seem to remember all these people campaigning for PR during the referendum in 2011. I must have missed it all. |
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United Kingdom
Alternative Vote referendum 5 May 2011 At present, the UK uses the "first past the post" system to elect MPs to the House of Commons. Should the "alternative vote" system be used instead? Results Choice Votes % Yes 6,152,607 32.10% No 13,013,123 67.90% Valid votes 19,165,730 99.41% Invalid or blank votes 113,292 0.59% Total votes 19,279,022 100.00% Registered voters/turnout 45,684,501 42.2% |
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there shouldn't be any party representation
just independents |
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Whatever % "none of the above" polled, they couldn't argue against it being a true representation because everyone would have had to vote for something
Then when NOTA polled (say) 62% it would prove just how bad they were |
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62% would be an illegitimate parliament (not that its not already of course)
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True, 42% then
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almost certainly the largest vote share @ 42%
I'd certainly expect it to be in that region |
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At least that way we'd have an irrefutable argument to put to them.
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Turnout down 7 points from 67% to 60%.
Labour vote up 2%. Cons down 20%. Reform up 12%. The implication being that all those red wall Tories in 2019 didnt turn out for Sunak. How ironic. Rishi was just about the only sane person left in the Conservatives after the Truss experiment. And he couldnt get elected. Have to wonder about the future for the Conservatives. What is the point in them if Farage is now the unofficial political leader of the right? There is precious little difference between the centre right and the liberals. And there isnt many of them left in the Conservative party anyway. Surely its too much to hope that the Tories are to go the way of the dodo? |
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Of course the turnout is down, they did everything possible to stop the younger generation from voting plus rejigging the boundaries. Rotten to the core.
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As Mark Twain was quoted as saying, “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” How true. The present system is totally unacceptable. PR would be, in my opinion, the lesser of the two evils. At least there's an element of fairness about the process.
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The British electorate rejected PR in a referendum held in 2011 but should we also revisit the referendum of 2016? I'm sure Farage and his supporters would agree!
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Sparrow you've told us 12 times there was a referendum, we get it. People can still discuss it imo.
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PR results in a government that depends on right /left wing elements to function . So the nutters rule the sensible. Not good . Look at Israel
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