st james palace stakes 4.25 ascot .

I enjoy reading your analysis of a race Foyles and good luck but I am really keen on Notable Speech.....to me he has had a fantastic education on the AW and has learnt to settle and show a blistering turn of pace where it matters. I think he is the real deal and am on at 6/4 and expect him to win more convincingly than he did in the guineas.

good luck with notable speech  dbtb i put him up for the gns on the  ante post forum  along with a nonner and another unplaced ,yes he deffo sets the standard here and will be hard to beat but i prefer bigger prices and this one like notable speech in the gns is in the could be anything bracket and did it really well at sandown obviously he has a good bit to find but its not out  of the question . i will probably look for another at decnt prices as back up  tommorow no suprise if the front of the market dominate but anything can happen.

Good luck

I can easily see this being a repeat of the Guineas but it is a round mile which may or may not make a difference. I am also on Almaqam as he is not yet exposed but has the potential to be a factor in this at a huge price. My only negative is the price itself which has not shortened at all in the last 2 weeks so connections don't fancy it.

GL, my favourite race of the meeting

Good luck Foyles…just the one bet for me tomorrow in the CopperHorse but I’ll post it later once I get on.

notable speech looked top class in gns, form franked , wont be beaten

Im there tomorrow

good luck guys notable speech is the obvious one but he has been on the go since january  it may not affect him but its a slight neg in my eyes ive had my twopennorth  out of him so he dont owe me nothing and if he wins so be it but unless any come out there are 3 places on offer and this could get messy and luck in running could play a part here .

Rosallion will be much fitter against him this time round.

good luck terry enjoy your day dont get too pished !

perhaps henry long has  had some magic carrots, but notable was cantering in gns and im certain trainer will have him spot on,  loved this race in the 80s 90s, bairn, shavian, second set, sendawar, to agori, horage , bahri, funny i can recall these horses but i wouldnt be able to name any winner in the  last 10 years,  and was it this race that Frankel nearly  blunted his record .

ive not ruled out the french just yet both improving and metropolitan turned the form around with ramadan in the french gns  after being behind that rival on seasonal debut lightly raced and a group 1 already in the book he looks interesting and has won on good ground ,darlinghurst has also been on the go since the begining of the year but is 4 from 4 this season and bt the french derby 2nd first  look  pretty comfortably last time our gns form looks strong but i am not underestimating the french form .

I think Sir Alex won this with The Rock a great training performance. MJ Kinane announced his arrival in this race long long ago winning it for one Liam Browne.
I do hope you will be collecting elsjohn. Your mighty confident.

Henry Long an e/w bet to nowt. Lovely prep, hands and heels in France on horrible ground when Aiden's were below par. 9/2 is luvvly. Good luck all

I'm with you on Almaqam 25/1 Bet365. Got to be e/w 3pl with a saver on Notable Speech a reasonable 11/8 with same bookie this evening.

I’m really keen on Rosaillon. The draw is bit of a concern as could be locked on the inside but I’ve always thought he would excel on the round course at Ascot. Thought Sean had little choice going on 2 out in 2000 as horse was going so well. This wasn’t ideal and perhaps NS fitness and being able to challenge later aided his performance. 9/2 yesterday was far too big and I’ve backed ew - hopefully bet to nothing if he gets blocked in.

Off to Ascot most of the week and buzzing for today’s great days racing. Sneaky feeling for Berkshire Rocco in 5.15

Good luck everyone having a go today.

might be way off here but when ns won the gns look at the divots some of the others were knocking up compared to ns where he was did he have a strip of slightly  better ground ? was a good winner anyway but have  had  a few advantages in the gns ,

good luck hib

may have had a few advantages in the gns ^^^^

Very good point Al, just watched again, no bet race for me, just a joy to watch top class race

stood for metropolitan french gns winner and we have very little idea how the french and british form compares, he is after all a french gns winner and 40/1 is a bit of an insult , i can take the insults on the chin and he is progressive lightly raced and a winner on good ground stuck on well in the gns and just looks too big a price to me.
SELECTIONS ALAMQAM AND METROPLITAN 25/1 AND 40 /1 EW BOG GOOD LUCK ALL.

Quick question…did someone put up Alsakib in the last?

Price has just kept on crashing. Had high hopes this would drift out with moves for other horses.

think it was put up on one of those youtube vids

Okay cool..well he’s the one I wanted to be on today.

Made giant strides last season…can’t think of many that debut over 7f on the Polytrack then a few months later are winning class2s over 12f for fun.

Main objective last year was the Qatar Derby which the owner really wanted but that didn’t work out.

Returned this year in a couple of stakes races that I think has him spot on for this class drop back into handicap company.

First of those was in the John Porter where he looked like he blew up before staying on for midfield finish behind Hamish who nearly caused an upset in a G1 next time out.

And then lto he had no chance vs Point Lonsdale at Chester…Ryan is soon good when he gets the fractions right so he wasn’t going to get beat but Alsakib kept on very powerfully to get 3rd on the line.

I think these two runs will have cherry ripe for today and he’s coming in here with an excellent 12f on Good to Firm at the course to his name.

That was a great run weaving in and out from well back and looking like an extra 2 furlongs would be perfectly fine.

And then next time out at Newmarket he did that thing I always like ie galloped on powerfully like he’s brave inca or giants causeway.

Really like him but was hoping for a much better price…i will decide later…I suppose I can do a token bet to get the ball rolling this week lol

Jun 18, 2024 -- 1:33PM, EastLower Gooner wrote:

Quick question…did someone put up Alsakib in the last? Price has just kept on crashing. Had high hopes this would drift out with moves for other horses.

Yes Andy Holding

And plenty of other Tipsters

Notable Speech from from 2.2 to 2.8. Strong support for Rosallion.

I'm a big fan of Rosallion, but concerned by the draw, and Henry Longfellow who I've backed 6.6 win and 1.9 to place. Beautifully bred and think the ground course and prep market him as big value.

Problem solved…40/1 ew double with Charyn lol

14:30 EVENT 1m 0f 0y
Today
14:30
Charyn
7/2
Each Way
Won
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places

18:15
Royal Ascot
1m6f Hcap • 19 Runners • Good Firm
Alsakib
8/1
Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places

wd  good luck with the other one elg

It seems like Henry Longfellow has been overlooked. Strongly fancied for the French Guineas but was given a terrible ride by Ryan. Would have seen more daylight down a coal mine. Stuck behind horses and nowhere to go all the way up the straight. Did remarkably well to finish as close as it did and was full of running. Expect a much better run today.

It`s good to get a mixture of opinions. Good fred as usual Foyles.

Notable Speech from from 2.2 to 2.8. Strong support for Rosallion.


Seems strange to me as I thought Notable Speech beat him easily when they met. Different horses for different courses I suppose.

ROSSALLION evens to finish in 1st 3 seems to be a bit of free money,
to good to be true ?
seems better value than backing the fav

I have backed Notable Speech...sure to be beat now the run im on.. Billy beat me in a photo.earlier and 4 seconds.. Think Buick will go too early and Henry nails on line...

At least it eight runners is on the round course. Group race big fields on the straight never easy to predict...

Jun 18, 2024 -- 3:28PM, 1st time poster wrote:

ROSSALLION evens to finish in 1st 3 seems to be a bit of free money, to good to be true ? seems better value than backing the fav

its coffin draw for hold up horses vulnerable to run of race 11/4 in win market v short imo

Rosallion has everything in his favour eg ground and fitness except the draw. But, he does need a clear passage on the inside rail, if that was inclined.

Godolphin horse is a good thing.

Tricky one so i will stick with The Worlds best Trainer And Jockey.

6-1 fank you very much.

Jun 18, 2024 -- 2:19PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Notable Speech from from 2.2 to 2.8. Strong support for Rosallion. I'm a big fan of Rosallion, but concerned by the draw, and Henry Longfellow who I've backed 6.6 win and 1.9 to place. Beautifully bred and think the ground course and prep market him as big value.

1st and 2nd

boxed in & still mowed it down ffs

cracking ride

patience

best ride by a mile was the 2nd

Probably ride of the week there, although gaps were lucky

Notable Speech is a weakling, not a toughie like Rosallion or Haatem. Well done backers of Rosallion.

3rd for metropolitan at 40s will do for the ew well done rosalion backers

That is just some horse and a proper good training performance great ride hip hip hooray.

couldn't settle it again, got boxed in & then pushed a button 1f out made up 3l on the 2nd..."ride of the week" ffs

Good ride on Rosalion Levey had it in the right place when the race opened up
always looked like getting there but listen a cracker from the second horse

Spot on. Unreal that it was 9/2 in places yesterday

levey comes over as one of the good guys tells it as it is /no
flim flam for the camera.s, ev 1st was free money

The best horse won. Well done Rosallion. He must be the top juvenile miler. Sussex Stakes next no doubt.

Wonder not sobright talikng crap as usual.

Rosalion won fair n square. very good horse.

Very very good horse. Henry had the race run to suit and nearly nabbed it but as soon as Rosallion got out in time it was curtains. Best Hannon has ever trained. Very smart indeed.

Well  done Seany Levy,RM 10lb claimer

Ffs..opened up like a dream for Rosallion..Moore let it drift to rail...can t say was his best ride tbf...winner a superstar and a battler tbf..i cursed NS..

Well done Acey

Good call Angela R

Aye kick a man when he is doon buddy.

Always disliked Levey...seen many bad rides whether personal.issues at the time r no...

Will these ever beat City of Troy over 8f? Henry Longfellow ran very well, but no match for Rosallion. A softer surface in the Sussex Stakes Henry Longfellow could have a chance to turn the form round. Similarly, Notable Speech.

Jun 18, 2024 -- 4:36PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Very very good horse. Henry had the race run to suit and nearly nabbed it but as soon as Rosallion got out in time it was curtains. Best Hannon has ever trained. Very smart indeed.

canford cliffs

Neck-lol

settled a lot better albeit for different rider...and an equally deadly tof

Hannon greetin like a big wuman ffs.

Think if Moore been able to keep straight and true be a head in fav of HL..although maybe The Lion woulda pulled out more.. horse has cost me a packet...done us on Unquestionable in Framxe..backed it in Guineas ..backed Haatem.at the Curragh snd saved on HL today..he was my pnly loser in race...fml.. neber get Hannon who never liked tbh right...

Backed the second ew and did the rev fc so happy with that. Thought the first two got good rides so no excuses whatever had've won.

MJK • June 18, 2024 4:47 PM BST
Backed the second ew

same

1 of the bets of the week...race went perfectly...and still aint fkin drawn

Moore must have thought nothing was coming past him in the last furlong....Just shows what a mahine the winner is.

Mahine? aye machine.

they've come 5l clear its masterclass on 2nd, winner is aeroplane to pull & be boxed in & come around the 2nd to mow it down

Rosallion is 5/4 fav for the Sussex Stakes (31st July) with Charyn and Henry Longfellow on 6/1; Notable Speech is 7/1. I think 5/4 is super short, and the weather could have a say too.

Fav drifted like a barge, and ran like one.

One bad race (remember City Of Troy?), and 7/1 could be the value for the sussex Stakes, if he's sound.

Israr backed in, Torito drifts, Israr wins - John collects !

Will take 1st and 4th…will start looking at the Hunt Cup now.

There are some massive prices in there for proper horses too.

Are you guys expecting rain down South.

I got Noah’s Ark weather where I am ffs

Best horse today..jockey very lucky with the gaps

Sunny evening and still quite warm. Ascot weather tomorrow is sun with some cloud 20C.

Lol bro….

You can never be sure how good 3yos are until they meet older horses so 5/4 is very short imo. He is the best 3yo and the older ones don't seem to have a strong representative although Charyn is still improving. The French horses were disappointing in both races so no sign of anything coming over to Goodwood to upset Rosallion. The times of the 2 races yesterday were almost identical but on different courses. I still rate Haatem highly but connections seem to think Rosallion is special. It is hard too see Haatem getting beaten in the Jersey.

Very well done winners.....very disappointing from Notable Speech there, couldnt really see any excuses for him

Charlie Appleby has been very erratic so far this season.

Notable Speech could be dropped in trip; the horse found nothing on the stiff Ascot track.