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Chadfan
26 May 24 16:26
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Just got her first win in France.
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Report themightymac May 26, 2024 4:35 PM BST
Brilliant news to hear.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 26, 2024 4:41 PM BST
Ou?
Report themightymac May 26, 2024 4:43 PM BST
It`s actually Oui.

.... Très bonne nouvelle!
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 26, 2024 4:44 PM BST
lol, it is oui if that is what I'm trying to say mm Cool
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 26, 2024 4:45 PM BST
Where did she ride her winner?
Report themightymac May 26, 2024 4:53 PM BST
Don`t know mate, I was just going by opening poster.
Report themightymac May 26, 2024 4:55 PM BST
No jump racing on in France today that I can see.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 26, 2024 5:11 PM BST
Nothing on front page of Racing Post. Must be fake news lol
Report acey deucy May 26, 2024 5:18 PM BST
Double up well done.Happy
Report Hayden May 26, 2024 5:21 PM BST
Yes, Bryony Frost has indeed secured her first victory in France! On Sunday, May 26, 2024, she rode to victory in the Prix Paul Balme at Sablé-sur-Sarthe1. This achievement marks an exciting milestone for the talented British jockey as she continues her journey in French racing.
Report Chadfan May 26, 2024 6:04 PM BST
It was at somewhere called Sable-Sur-Sarthe, but a win's a win, 14,000 Euro total prize though for a minor race out in the sticks. Much better prize money than you get here. I wonder why? She's got 2 rides at Auteil tomorrow, one race has 110,000 Euro prize money!
Report Andrew.in.Sweden May 26, 2024 6:11 PM BST
https://www.equidia.fr/courses/2024-05-26/R23/C1
Report sparrow May 26, 2024 6:37 PM BST
Well done to her.
Report themightymac May 26, 2024 6:37 PM BST
Well done Bryony.

..... Merci beaucoup André !
Report duffy May 26, 2024 6:40 PM BST
First thing that strikes you watching that is how tidy she looked in the saddle compared to what she was up against.
Report Chadfan May 26, 2024 11:20 PM BST
Agreed, I think she will do well in France. G Macaire was a joint trainer of her winner, isn't he one of the top jumps trainers in France? So a good outside ride to get. One other outside ride tomorrow and one for her retainer.
Report themightymac May 27, 2024 12:16 AM BST
Guillaume Macaire has been champion Jumps trainer in France every year since 2003.
Report Chadfan May 27, 2024 6:03 AM BST
Auteuil on Tuesday, not today, for her next rides. Apologies.
Report fairweather May 27, 2024 11:47 AM BST
Amy Murphy training winners over there left right and centre, earning far more prizemoney than she ever could in England - as im sure will be the case for Bryony.
I do wonder how many more trainers and jockeys will follow, and the way this country's heading, punters too!
Vive la France.
Report Chadfan May 27, 2024 10:09 PM BST
But why is French prizemoney better than ours? Could it be that they don't have bookmakers creaming off the profits that should go into prize money? Or is our racing spread too thinly? But France seem to have plenty of race meetings. I don't know. It's not just France though that has more prizemoney. Look at Hong Kong, Japan and Australia and USA and Canada. UK racing is going downhill I feel, especially NH racing.
Report themightymac May 27, 2024 10:32 PM BST
T=O=T=E
Report sageform May 28, 2024 9:13 AM BST
But it is not in punters interest to follow the French or US model. Their percentage pay back is awful so why anyone bets on it there is a mystery. I suppose that it is like going back to the days of the betting tax here when we had no option but to get poor returns. My whole attitude to betting changed when we had zero tax and then exchanges so that making a profit became at least a realistic ambition. It is all about government attitudes though. Racing is a vital part of the Irish economy but is vanishingly small in UK and few UK politicians would notice or care if racing ceased to exist.
Report CROPSICK May 28, 2024 11:14 AM BST
I agree Sageform that their % takeout is awful but they do have  thriving racing economy's where owners, trainers, jockeys can all make a really good living, racegoers can get very good value, entrance fees, facilities, food etc.
The sport is in a bad way in this country with attendences declining, horse population declining(higher rated horses especially), betting declining, we do get better returns on our betting but at what expense.
Report sageform May 28, 2024 12:08 PM BST
That is all true and so long as their punters are willing to donate 20% of their stakes at a level that funds the sport then fine.
Report brendrew May 28, 2024 7:44 PM BST
Magnifique
Report Cider May 28, 2024 7:57 PM BST
Weird how the majority of good NH horses appear to end up racing in the British Isles. We also appear to clean up at many Arc meetings.

There's a lot to be negative about, however easy to fall into the trap of 'we're all rubbish and they're all great' due to how things are presented. I've often heard that most French meetings are close to zero public attendance. A pundit the other day said the BG had a bigger prize fund than any equivalent G3 in France (not verified that claim myself). T0te monopoly would be horrendous, and completely change the nature of betting, having no idea what odds you'd get. Trading prices is part of the fabric of what we do, and bookies creaming off profits is a price worth paying for that (although we could make improvements in that area, improved sp mechanism etc).
Report themightymac May 28, 2024 8:07 PM BST
The punter has never had it so good. No argument there.

... but if owners and trainers (especially at the grassroots)struggle to survive, we will lose many tracks.

Dominoe effect.
Report Cider May 28, 2024 8:10 PM BST
There IS far too much racing. Which is part of the pm issue at the lower levels. Something has to give. The cultural shift is not going to reverse.
Report Chadfan May 28, 2024 9:58 PM BST
Very interesting to hear your opinions. I went to Longchamps a few years ago when they had their 1000 and 2000 equivalent races on the same day, it was a fantastic card, but there was a very small crowd and no bookies on course, and no atmosphere. I'm no expert on French betting, but I believe it is popular and they get large betting pools, it is covered widely on free TV.
I agree that there is too much racing here, resulting in small fields (particularly in NH races) and if there were less racing, maybe the prize money could be more and the races more competitive, resulting in more betting turnover. Lots to consider for the authorities. One more thing, is how expensive it is to get into some of the meetings here.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden May 29, 2024 9:02 AM BST
Longchamp is my favourite venue for horse racing, i've been going for more years than i care to remember and not only the October meetings (my first time was in 1980 for the Detroit/Pat Eddery Arc).

As the previous poster, i was at the 1000/2000 Guineas meeting last year for Blue Rose Cen (photos on here). 20 euros entry, sit where you want, no major queues for food/drink/bets. The atmosphere is not as good as a similar meeting in GB, but i love it.
Report sparrow May 29, 2024 9:47 AM BST
The prices put our courses to shame and I would rather have a little less atmosphere than and more comfort. Atmosphere that includes a load of drunken idiots we can manage without.
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