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swiftynifty 20 May 24 22:36
50-odd races Saturday afternoon, 30-odd races Sunday afternoon but no, I need another 6, ridiculous. As was trialling it in the middle of winter. Though that's when the desperados are short of doing anything else with their lives. Of all those races you mention on Saturday and Sunday I doubt if any more than 10% would interest me. You seem to be of the opinion that people who don't gamble as you do, are to quote you "desperados".If anyone is being ridiculous then that is clearly yourself. I bid you good night. |
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There's already enough AW to smother the NH season and I'm talking as predominantly a flat racing fan. AW should be there to keep the show on the road , 1 meeting a day just in case the weather is bad. The seasons are there for a reason. Horses can't run all year round. They need a rest just like the punter does.
Clearly not punters like you though, have a night off sparrow, at your age you've earned it. |
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Without the AW lower grade racing would struggle even more than it is now. The AW is keeping the sport alive and relevant and is providing opportunists for young trainers and jockeys that are not part of the 'racing family' (i.e gravy train).
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i thought we got these sunday nights because BHA/bookmakers had done extensive research and had the figures to back up that sunday night racing is what the public wanted, presuming they now dont admit to lying all those involved should be sacked and bookmakers told to keep their noses out of any future decisions
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Research in advance is all very well, you never know until you try.
Theatres in the West End used to be 'dark' on Sundays, now they typically close on Monday instead as people want the chance to do recreational things on weekend evenings. |
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Good to hear people enjoying their Sundays off, longbridge.
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so go to theatre,racing anywhere sunday night,try to get transport home,to get to bed to get up early for work on monday,that would make every night of the week a weekend, only good thing about bank hol mondays is it make sunday a complete day off like sat
why do you think even windsor have never raced on a bank hol monday night ? who arranges anything/puts on anything for a bank holiday monday night ? which would be the same as doing something on a normal sunday night |
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If your argument against Sunday evening racing is we have work on Monday, by that thinking we would only have evening racing or theatre trips or dinners on Friday or Saturday?
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The arguments they put up about Sunday evenings just get sillier by the day. You would think they were all 6am starts and 12 hour shifts to listen to them.
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for me sundays/sunday nights even feel different when your on your summer hols in spain for 2 weeks,weve moved on to tea time football,but i,d never go or want to go to a sunday evening football KO,going racing wouldnt even cross my mind
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about 20 yrsago i,d have a walk out in summer locally for a pint on a sun night and had to walk past a chinese ,i was gobsmacked that people would get a chinedse takeaway on a sunday night , i ,m old enough to remember when the chippie didnt open on a sunday anywhere in uk
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The trial wasn't all about people attending the track which several keep mentioning but obviously included the revenue generated from off course betting.
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based on people betting on football,it would be like having top class meetings on a sat night based on people playing the lottery,ive punted for 45 yrs but unless it was chelt or royal ascot etc i wouldnt dream of having a horse racing bet on a sunday night,watched that sunday racing at newmarket left me cold never even thought of having a bet,different strokes i suppose
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@1st tp
"when the chippie didnt open on a sunday anywhere in uk" Clement Freud MP moved an amendment to the Sunday Trading Act back in 1980 to legalise the sale of fried fish on Sundays. That was one of the weird things from the old law - you could legitimately buy a Chinese or Indian takeaway on a Sunday evening, but not fish & chips. Why were you gobsmacked btw - do you associate a takeaway Chinese with a different night of the week, or do you have a habitual Sunday evening meal that isn't Chinese? |
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Am I the only one who liked the concept of Sunday nights?
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Certainly not Cardinal but we will always be in a minority with this one on here.
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Am I the only one who liked the concept of Sunday nights?
You, Sparra and julia Harrington. BHA brief is to attract new people to racing except attempting to drag families out on a sunday evening was a non-starter but those in an ivory tower have no grasp on reality. An attempt to increase betting turnover during an economic crisis could only end in tears. Attendances have been dropping across the board but the ivory tower mob are blind to the concept. Can a progressive move suchg as this be deemed pragmatic if the board are robbing midweek prize money to fund sunday evening cards? If there was an evening card this Sunday coinciding with Bank Holiday monday you might deem it worth exploring perhaps but not on a wet cold night during autumn or winter. Doubtr you'll see this folly repeated for some years to come. |
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Leif is still an honorary member of The Lords Day Observance Society and regularly attends evensong.
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just old school, dont/never equated takeaways with sundays,sunday tea should be was always cakes /trifle etc
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Ah ok, that's never been a thing in my life.
As a boy growing up, Sunday lunch was always a roast with all the usual trimmings. Sunday evening meal would be salad in the summer, something hot but light in the other months, but never sweet stuff. And that was 40+ years ago, so now I do as I want. |
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butterfly cakes/sandwich picnic on seafront in summer on sunday afternoons in the 60,s zeypher or riley
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The right decision, particularly for stable staff.
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What about all the other people who have to work Sunday evenings?
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Like betting shop staff?
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It's not about who works, it's about what works and whether it suits all parties from a financial and well-being perspectives.
If you can't see past that you're buggered. Looking at it from a 1900 and frozen to death lens is utterly stupid. |
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You talk utter nonsense with a stone age mentality.
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you need to stop digging
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It's all about the staff imo, both the stable staff and the racecourse staff, and the betting shop staff, who have had this thrust upon them, and now thankfully won't have to do it anymore for now. They can now enjoy once again their sunday night off. I am not concerned about other professions who work on a sunday evening and knew what they were signing up for.
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leif 21 May 24 20:38
you need to stop digging As I recall you're the one that likes to go digging. |
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You appear to be in support of robbing midweek prize money to maintain a crutch for a folly, to be belligerently ignorant of the mental well being of the nuts and bolts of the industry that are generally worn out by sunday evening and merely want to spend some down time with their kith and kin, just so as you can watch them operate as automatons seven days a week for your amusement.
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Last race on a Sunday should be around 6 o'clock.
Stable staff have a chance to get back & nick a swift pint. |
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I should add, respect to anyone who works on a sunday evening or at any other times , rather than ponsing benefits off the taxpayer and expecting them to pay for them raising their family etc...as long as they're not doing both outside the parameters.
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Exactly layemall.
This tw4t minds not a jot that stable staff are up at the crack of dawn and on times not back home until very late that night. There's only a finite staffing level that has to spread themselves very thinly. Imagine having Sparra as your boss  Not that he would last more than 5 minutes in modern times.Betting he wa a right cn4t if he was given a badge  |
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You have no idea what I did in my working life, leif. I care about about all working people and not just the ones that suit my point of view at any particular time.
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National Association of Racing Staff
The Racing Centre, Fred Archer Way Newmarket, Suffolk CB8 8NT Phone: 01638 663 411 Email: admin@naors.co.ukSunday racing and Sunday racing payment Where off-rota staff are asked to go racing or to cover work in the yard, it will be on a voluntary basis. Staff who go racing on a Sunday fixture will receive a Sunday Racing Payment of £30.00. |
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https://www.naors.co.uk/help/pay-and-expenses/
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£30
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Is that the price of a person's mental well-being given they will be away from their loved ones having worked all week getting up before the sun does and getting home when the sun has set and their children are in bed?
The guys at the bottom of the chain are over-worked and underpaid. Stretch an elstic band to breaking point and see what happens. |
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Voluntary . Hourly rate at the time this was published was £11.44 an hour. I would not support any member of the stable staff having to work for less than the agreed hourly rate and would support strike action if it was taken.
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