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and is taken to hospital,who weighs in for him ,or does he lose the race?thanks in advance.
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they have special circumstances and he would keep the race, that's special as in a one off not special as in when we describe your mental health
There's a set of scales in the stretcher rather like
weighing a big fish,
Weighed in weighed in
weighing a big fish,
Weighed in weighed in
but the clerk of the scales must object by law if the rider fails to weigh in.
it's not by law, it's procedural re the rules and he notifies the stewards who make a decision based on all known information before they dq, clerks do not dq
think of an objection as per when you don't want your meds, someone in a white coat still makes the final decision
the stewards would not be qualified to make a decision based on the health of rider ,it would have to a medical expert.
and there is a time limit on the weigh in procedure .
and there is a time limit on the weigh in procedure .
the jockey could jump off his horse ,say he has a pain in his leg ,and say im away down town to see a doctor.
Which reminds me ,that Barney will be dead 3 years in ten days time.such a lovely man,some people say he left a last plan in his will.a true gentleman and scholar .
i enjoyed talking to you guys this morning,thanks for updating me on the rules of racing.BRASS
A guy in the US about 100 years ago died during the course of the race but was still in the saddle when the horse crossed the line. He kept the race and was surely delighted.
There you go lads,a jockey fell off his horse a few feet from the finishing line in a race at indianapolis last night.
1.01 in the betting in running.
1.01 in the betting in running.
I have a better one than that Brass which provides an answer to your question too, with the incredible true story of Frank Hayes.
Frank Hayes (b1901 – d1923)
was an Irish horse trainer and jockey who on 4 June 1923, at Belmont Park racetrack in New York, won a steeplechase despite suffering a fatal heart attack in the latter part of the race.
The twenty-two-year-old Hayes had never won a race before, as by profession he was not a jockey but a horse trainer and stableman and the horse, a 20/1 outsider called Sweet Kiss, was owned by Miss A. M. Frayling.
Hayes died in the latter part of the race and his body remained in the saddle when Sweet Kiss crossed the finish line, winning by a head, making him the first and so far only jockey to have won a race after death.
His death was not discovered until Miss Frayling and race officials came to congratulate him shortly after the race. It was suggested that the fatal heart attack may have been brought on by Hayes' extreme efforts to meet the weight requirements, as a newspaper reported claimed he had slimmed down from 142 pounds (64 kg) to 130 pounds (59 kg) in a very short time.
After the discovery of Hayes' death, all further post-race formalities were waived by the Jockey Club and the result declared official without the weighing in.
Hayes was buried three days later, dressed in his racing silks, at Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn, New York City. The horse never raced again, and it is claimed that Sweet Kiss was nicknamed "Sweet Kiss of Death" for the rest of her life.
........ not a lot of people know that
Frank Hayes (b1901 – d1923)
was an Irish horse trainer and jockey who on 4 June 1923, at Belmont Park racetrack in New York, won a steeplechase despite suffering a fatal heart attack in the latter part of the race.
The twenty-two-year-old Hayes had never won a race before, as by profession he was not a jockey but a horse trainer and stableman and the horse, a 20/1 outsider called Sweet Kiss, was owned by Miss A. M. Frayling.
Hayes died in the latter part of the race and his body remained in the saddle when Sweet Kiss crossed the finish line, winning by a head, making him the first and so far only jockey to have won a race after death.
His death was not discovered until Miss Frayling and race officials came to congratulate him shortly after the race. It was suggested that the fatal heart attack may have been brought on by Hayes' extreme efforts to meet the weight requirements, as a newspaper reported claimed he had slimmed down from 142 pounds (64 kg) to 130 pounds (59 kg) in a very short time.
After the discovery of Hayes' death, all further post-race formalities were waived by the Jockey Club and the result declared official without the weighing in.
Hayes was buried three days later, dressed in his racing silks, at Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn, New York City. The horse never raced again, and it is claimed that Sweet Kiss was nicknamed "Sweet Kiss of Death" for the rest of her life.
........ not a lot of people know that
I am sure this story is mainly true but it brings up a host of questions…….how do they know he died DURING the race ? Why didn't he fall off as race riding takes great balance. Well any sort of riding does. How was the horse steered? How was it pulled up? Did it run round and round with a jockey with no balance until it got tired?
Its a great story but like all historic great stories it may b en to embellishment. Thanks mighty mac for posting such an intriguing tale anyway.
Its a great story but like all historic great stories it may b en to embellishment. Thanks mighty mac for posting such an intriguing tale anyway.
I forgot, it was a steeplechase ! Even more tricky to hold on ! .
i can't rem where this was in the uk someone may recall, maybe 2-3 yrs agoa horse collapsed after the line, i don't rem if it won or placed but the vets were treating it and the jock was unable to reclaim the saddle but was allowed to weigh in regardless as they stewards were happy it had not crossed the line without the saddle etc
i also have a vague recollection of one running off down newmarket high st several yrs ago
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