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brassneck
13 May 24 11:28
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and is taken to hospital,who weighs in for him ,or does he lose the race?thanks in advance.

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By:
elise
When: 13 May 24 11:53
they have special circumstances and he would keep the race, that's special as in a one off not special as in when we describe your mental health
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 13 May 24 11:58
There's a set of scales in the stretcher rather like
weighing a big fish,

Weighed in weighed in
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:11
who's we?
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:25
so YOU say the 1.01 would keep the race.
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:27
but the clerk of the scales must object by law if the rider fails to weigh in.Confused
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:38
so who overturns the clerk of the scales objection?
By:
elise
When: 13 May 24 12:39
it's not by law, it's procedural re the rules and he notifies the stewards who make a decision based on all known information before they dq, clerks do not dq
By:
elise
When: 13 May 24 12:41
think of an objection as per when you don't want your meds, someone in a white coat still makes the final decision
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:50
the stewards would not be qualified to make a decision based on the health of rider ,it would have to a medical expert.
and there is a time limit on the weigh in procedure .
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 12:54
the jockey could jump off his horse ,say he has a pain in his leg ,and say im away down town to see a doctor.Grin
By:
elise
When: 13 May 24 12:55
when it happens let me know how you get on
By:
elise
When: 13 May 24 12:56
i really hope those meds are delivered anally ...
By:
The Management
When: 13 May 24 12:59
He needs them more than once a year imo Wink
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 13:00
he could go to see doctor yellow Sam.Grin
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 13:15
Which reminds me ,that Barney will be dead 3 years in ten days time.such a lovely man,some people say he left a last plan in his will.a true gentleman and scholar .Happy
By:
brassneck
When: 13 May 24 13:24
i enjoyed talking to you guys this morning,thanks for updating me on the rules of racing.BRASSHappy
By:
salmon spray
When: 13 May 24 13:55
A guy in the US about 100 years ago died during the course of the race but was still in the saddle when the horse crossed the line. He kept the race and was surely delighted.
By:
youresomean
When: 13 May 24 15:16
If he'd known the shock would have killed him.
By:
brassneck
When: 14 May 24 01:51
There you go lads,a jockey fell off his horse a few feet from the finishing line in a race at indianapolis last night.
1.01 in the betting in running.Surprised
By:
themightymac
When: 14 May 24 03:02
I have a better one than that Brass which provides an answer to your question too, with the incredible true story of Frank Hayes.

Frank Hayes (b1901 – d1923)
was an Irish horse trainer and jockey who on 4 June 1923, at Belmont Park racetrack in New York, won a steeplechase despite suffering a fatal heart attack in the latter part of the race.

The twenty-two-year-old Hayes had never won a race before, as by profession he was not a jockey but a horse trainer and stableman and the horse, a 20/1 outsider called Sweet Kiss, was owned by Miss A. M. Frayling.
Hayes died in the latter part of the race and his body remained in the saddle when Sweet Kiss crossed the finish line, winning by a head, making him the first and so far only jockey to have won a race after death.

His death was not discovered until Miss Frayling and race officials came to congratulate him shortly after the race. It was suggested that the fatal heart attack may have been brought on by Hayes' extreme efforts to meet the weight requirements, as a newspaper reported claimed he had slimmed down from 142 pounds (64 kg) to 130 pounds (59 kg) in a very short time.

After the discovery of Hayes' death, all further post-race formalities were waived by the Jockey Club and the result declared official without the weighing in.

Hayes was buried three days later, dressed in his racing silks, at Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn, New York City. The horse never raced again, and it is claimed that Sweet Kiss was nicknamed "Sweet Kiss of Death" for the rest of her life.

........ not a lot of people know that Crazy
By:
brians
When: 14 May 24 09:54
I am sure this story is mainly true but it brings up a host of questions…….how do they know he died DURING the race ? Why didn't he fall off as race riding takes great balance. Well any sort of riding does. How was the horse steered? How was it pulled up? Did it run round and round with a jockey with no balance until it got tired?
Its a great story but like all historic great stories it may b en to embellishment. Thanks mighty mac for posting such an intriguing tale anyway.
By:
brians
When: 14 May 24 09:56
I forgot, it was a steeplechase ! Even more tricky to hold on ! .
By:
elise
When: 14 May 24 12:42
i can't rem where this was in the uk someone may recall, maybe 2-3 yrs agoa horse collapsed after the line, i don't rem if it won or placed but the vets were treating it and the jock was unable to reclaim the saddle but was allowed to weigh in regardless as they stewards were happy it had not crossed the line without the saddle etc
By:
elise
When: 14 May 24 12:43
i also have a vague recollection of one running off down newmarket high st several yrs ago
By:
themightymac
When: 14 May 24 16:45
It did happen and that is a fact.
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