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By:
Wesdag
When: 29 Apr 24 16:46
I've got a feeling Frankel won't ever be cast in his box.
By:
duffy
When: 29 Apr 24 17:10
No, I don't either, but that is suggesting that something more could be done, but it obviously can't because relatively speaking Shishkin is a Frankel, he's jumping royalty, certainly within the Henderson yard he is and particularly with that trainer if there was more that could be done to protect horses it certainly would have been.
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Apr 24 17:16
Sorry! I meant The Arkle (not Champion Chase). My attention to details esp horses are not what it used to be. I still remember the race vividly.

I still think he'd have won the King George; just was not to be. I hope Shishkin did not suffer too much post his accident. RIP Shishkin!
By:
dambuster
When: 29 Apr 24 17:32
Just goes to show , it doesn't only happen when jumping a fence.
RIP Shishkin
By:
1st time poster
When: 29 Apr 24 17:37
horses sleep whilst standing up,so for multi million £ horses especially on flat,breeding etc,wouldnt seem beyond the wit of man to engineer a comfortable restraint/cradle  of some sort ,which means they cant sit/lay on floor when horses are left unattended especially overnight
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 29 Apr 24 17:52
Yes Ascot!
By:
Wesdag
When: 29 Apr 24 18:04

Apr 29, 2024 -- 5:10PM, duffy wrote:


No, I don't either, but that is suggesting that something more could be done, but it obviously can't because relatively speaking Shishkin is a Frankel, he's jumping royalty, certainly within the Henderson yard he is and particularly with that trainer if there was more that could be done to protect horses it certainly would have been.


No, not suggesting neglect but more the point Frankel worth probably around £100m, I'd make sure he's watched 24/7.

Nevertheless, I'm surprised smart minds haven't come up with a solution.

By:
The Dragon
When: 29 Apr 24 18:23
yes very sad news indeedCry
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Apr 24 19:00
Did it happen as he was getting up? If so, blooming unlucky. Oldies like me are finding it more and more difficult getting up unaided post sitting down on the floor without assistance eg holding onto a support.
By:
duffy
When: 29 Apr 24 22:58
imp,

Presumably when you and I struggle to get up we don't panic, the horse settles down too close to the sides and then can't get up because they are too close to the side and can't shuffle out to give themselves room and then panic and that's when they get injured.....something like that anywaySad
By:
irishone
When: 30 Apr 24 07:17
Feck me duffy first bit of decent horse knowledge you ever posted

Dont think the horse got back up to beat davy back in the day, i was right on the line , my pocket said.

Another of Henderson's "why me ?" interviews on its way
By:
irishone
When: 30 Apr 24 07:20
Smart minds use fields
By:
The Knight
When: 30 Apr 24 12:36
The older I become, the more I am convinced that some people and some animals are 'fated' in life.

They have great ability and talent but suffer outrageous swings of fortune along the way.

Shiskin must be a good example. Brilliant on his day, but refusing to race once, stumbling with the King George surely at his mercy, and now meeting he end in such a sad way.

Certainly not a dull life but one ended too soon.
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Apr 24 12:53
bloke in the daily mail today
was in the pub at soho pub bombing
and involved in  HATFIELD train crash 18 months later

bet he has no one sat next to him on a train,plane anymore LaughLaugh
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 24 13:51
'duffy', I must watch myself in the future. I'd break my back or wrist when I get up from a settee or floor. I'm terrified walking on the pavement in the winter esp with leaves lying around; one slip, one could bang one's head falling.
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 30 Apr 24 13:55
imp....there are some simple exercises over 50s 60s should be doing every day.....only takes about 5 to 10 minutes a day to help with mobility.Happy
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 30 Apr 24 13:56
You wouldn't want to travel with Tom Hanks either

Crash landed and ended up on a desert island
Emergency landing on the River Hudson
Attacked by pirates on board a ship
Stranded at an airport
On Apollo 13 with all the emergency issues
And as for Forest Gump

Laugh
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 24 14:01
Went bed aged 12 and woke up aged 25Grin

Being part of the Normandy landings

Go back from all that and was diagnosed with Aids ffsShocked
By:
Storm Alert
When: 30 Apr 24 14:17
Andrew.in.Sweden LaughLaugh
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 24 16:36
Every morning I'll do a 5 min stretch in the bathroom before washing my face 2x and hair under the bathtub taps. The stretch involves touching my toes 10x (left/right) in quick succession; doing the Floss 10x; rocking forward and backward 10x; squating 10x; lifting my legs (4x) and turn 360 degree before swivelling my neck 5x left/right (will feel giddy if more).

I'll experience stiffness in my knees and hip when bending down if I did not do this stretch the entire day. I'd walk for several miles and over 1hr (no running) and carry 10kg of shopping. I'd try to do this at least 3x a week; park the car 1/2 to shops.

But, I can feel it's getting progressively more taxing each time. The joy of getting on/old.
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 24 16:39
You'll feel a lot better if you knock all of that on the head IMOGrin
By:
Hayden
When: 30 Apr 24 16:45
Impossible

That bathroom exercise you do in the morning , any chance you can stick it on you tube  Grin
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 24 16:49
No Hayden!

Each to his own 'duffy'. I used to play a lot of football (could run for 3/4hrs) but hopeless at school X-country. I'd not even manage 3m!
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 24 16:49
Laugh
By:
breadnbutter
When: 30 Apr 24 16:56
Sad news indeed, my own take on Shishkin was he was unusual in do much as he appeared to  me to be tall and close coupled, always appeared to be a hell of a lot going on underneath, perhaps just a slightly diff stride pattern but to me a diff sort and could not figure out his correct trip, perhaps his quick stride pattern gave  him an ability to quicken, it was like he had a higher reving engine but it  took him a while to put it all together in a race,to me cut in the ground suited, he made two  decent horses look slow in the KG and would have won but for tripping himself (great spot Ruby W) up.
A great shame he wont get the chance go back to kempton and put it all together  altho the jury was still out on whether he was a GC hope, no reason why not, sadly we will never know.
A sad loss for all in racing, stable been through the ringer of late.
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 24 16:59
I remember 2/3 years before Covid I visited friends in Hackney. We walked from Homerton High Street (by Tesco) to the Olympic Stadium (West Ham) then thro' some parks, and back to Homerton High Street in the bright sunshine. And, I was not the slightest tired. It was baking too.

Now, I'd think twice before doing the same again.
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 24 17:04
I liked Shishkin more than I like Altior (I backed Buveur D'Air). I think he was impeded (by a faller) at the 2nd last hurdle and yet went on to chin Abacadabras. Sad loss!
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