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SlippyBlue
28 Apr 24 21:58
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Absolutely terrible news that Shishkin is no longer with us.
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Report SlippyBlue April 28, 2024 10:00 PM BST
He got cast in his stable and fractured his hind leg.

What an absolutely awful thing to happen.
Report themightymac April 28, 2024 10:07 PM BST
Very sad news to hear. He was a very good horse.
Report ladycarla April 28, 2024 10:09 PM BST
Sad
Report acey deucy April 28, 2024 10:15 PM BST
That is sad News....rico seething you beat him to it.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 28, 2024 10:15 PM BST
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/hugely-popular-nicky-henderson-trained-star-shishkin-dies-in-tragic-accident-in-stable-aakbp4H768GA/

RIP Sad
Report duffy April 28, 2024 10:19 PM BST
Very sad news.Sad
Report layingisthewayforward April 28, 2024 10:20 PM BST
Very sad Sad
Report penzance April 28, 2024 10:35 PM BST
Excellent animal.
What a shame.
Report strontium April 28, 2024 10:38 PM BST
A very sad thing to happen.
Report FatPunt April 28, 2024 10:43 PM BST
Sad
Report casemoney April 29, 2024 2:13 AM BST
Nico and Nicky great day yesterday Sad  They will  be gutted RIP ,Would have been one run and the King George to look forward to
Report Autocue April 29, 2024 8:19 AM BST
Henderson claims he was an absolute superstar. On the sauce again?
Report CROPSICK April 29, 2024 8:29 AM BST
He was to him, whats wrong with that?
Report GLASGOWCALLING April 29, 2024 9:19 AM BST
Henderson claims he was an absolute superstar. On the sauce again?
   
     .... " And the vote for the most compassionate post of the week goes to ....
Report impossible123 April 29, 2024 9:29 AM BST
RIP Shishkin! You're a great winner of The Supreme and Champion Chase Huge talent, and you'll always be remembered as one of my favourites.

RIP Shishkin!
Report john42 April 29, 2024 10:10 AM BST
Autocue you piece of **** REPORTED
Report Storm Alert April 29, 2024 10:34 AM BST
Sad news indeed.Sad I'm sure I read an article the other day they were looking forward to taking on Galopin Des Champs at Punchestown.
Report stewarts rise April 29, 2024 10:58 AM BST
Read this very sad news when popped up on phone this morning from the Independent newspaper.
Only 2 comments were:
1 Jump racing is Animal abuse. It is shameful.
2 Refusing to run, throwing his rider and being cast in his stable? Poor bloody animal.

Doubt these morons even know what being Cast in stable means. These people take any opportunity to have a go at horse racing, ignorant b@stards.
Report DrGordons April 29, 2024 11:17 AM BST
I can't remember any well-known horse being cast in his box with fatal consequences. Think it must have happened. Any ideas?
Report saxon farm April 29, 2024 12:00 PM BST
impossible 123

Shishkin never won the Champion Chase.

RIP Shishkin.
Report howard April 29, 2024 12:01 PM BST
Well that's the second well known one this year after Highfield Princess.
Report howard April 29, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Not a big follower of chasing but even I thought don't think he's won a champion chase.
Report mitolo April 29, 2024 12:17 PM BST
now i is a bit fick but this seems to happen with some regularity

is there something wrong with stable design? are they too small? surely something is wrong and can be changed to lessen the chance of more accidents like this. i dunno but its very sad and fixable, is it not?

maybe im missing something
Report DancingBraveTheBest April 29, 2024 12:44 PM BST
What a terrible end to a great career....RIP Shishkin.....just goes to show how fragile these great animals are. Front of Racing Post today about the clash over in Ireland.....am guttedSadSadSadSad
Report DancingBraveTheBest April 29, 2024 12:46 PM BST
Yes Mitolo would be fantasic to mitigate the chances of a horse getting cast....happens all too oftenSad
Report jerseyboy April 29, 2024 12:50 PM BST
Autocue   Once a dickhead always a dickhead
Report eeee aw April 29, 2024 1:11 PM BST
It's their poor, fragile legs I'm afraid.  They can get broken when merely running around a field
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 29, 2024 1:28 PM BST
Autocue

Henderson claims he was an absolute superstar. On the sauce again?


Might be an idea to ask for this post to be removed, totally unnecessary.
Report Wesdag April 29, 2024 1:29 PM BST
Had to google what cast meant in this context.

It's incredible how horses are so mighty yet so fragile.
Report mitolo April 29, 2024 1:55 PM BST
they are in-bred and over-bred and would not exist via natural selection. despite the advances in equine science and nutrition, fitness regimes, groovy new gallops and all sorts of medication horses have barely improved for about 100 years. all they do is become more fragile. how many have wind-ops? pumpkins never had a horse that can breathe. its unhealthy and they should be banned

the germans have it right. no horse thats been near any drug, or is infirm is allowed to breed there. hence their breeding industry is minute but their horses can win arcs on heavy ground, because they are strong and healthy, not inbred sprinting ponies
Report Wesdag April 29, 2024 2:49 PM BST
^ useful insight, ta
Report strontium April 29, 2024 3:18 PM BST
The 2022 Clarence House chase is one of the all-time classic races.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 29, 2024 3:26 PM BST
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/2147/country-where-stallions-who...
Report impossible123 April 29, 2024 3:35 PM BST
'Wesdaq', I did the same. Poor thing. Just not to be. I was about to back him against Galopin and Fastorslow at Punchestown. RIP Shishkin!
Report SlippyBlue April 29, 2024 3:59 PM BST
Yes indeed Strontium, that race at Sandown is one for the ages and it's how I'll remember Shiskin as well. A truly epic dual with Energumene that raised the roof.
Report saxon farm April 29, 2024 4:20 PM BST
Slippy

I’m sure you meant to type Ascot instead of Sandown!
Report jimnast April 29, 2024 4:35 PM BST
Unforgettable race the 2022 Clarence House I left haydock early to get home and watch the race without any distractions and wasn’t disappointed truly amazing race only the 2005 champion hurdle can compare with it as a spectacle this century.


I think impossible can be forgiven it’s not difficult to get the arkle and the champion chase mixed up.


Very sad news about a horse who gave so many so much pleasure.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 29, 2024 4:42 PM BST
Jimnast

Totally agree about the race, and unfortunately both horses were never 100% the same again, it took a lot of of both.

Altior v Cyrname was a similar type of race/outcome, also at Ascot, neither were the same again.
Report duffy April 29, 2024 4:42 PM BST
It does seem strange that the issue of being cast in their box can't be addressed somehow, we always hear the talk from trainers that they open up the stable door every morning hoping not to find anything untoward without realizing that they are probably quite literally referring to this issue.

It also doesn't bare thinking about as to how long the poor horse had been in there suffering before it was discoveredSad
Report Wesdag April 29, 2024 4:46 PM BST
I've got a feeling Frankel won't ever be cast in his box.
Report duffy April 29, 2024 5:10 PM BST
No, I don't either, but that is suggesting that something more could be done, but it obviously can't because relatively speaking Shishkin is a Frankel, he's jumping royalty, certainly within the Henderson yard he is and particularly with that trainer if there was more that could be done to protect horses it certainly would have been.
Report impossible123 April 29, 2024 5:16 PM BST
Sorry! I meant The Arkle (not Champion Chase). My attention to details esp horses are not what it used to be. I still remember the race vividly.

I still think he'd have won the King George; just was not to be. I hope Shishkin did not suffer too much post his accident. RIP Shishkin!
Report dambuster April 29, 2024 5:32 PM BST
Just goes to show , it doesn't only happen when jumping a fence.
RIP Shishkin
Report 1st time poster April 29, 2024 5:37 PM BST
horses sleep whilst standing up,so for multi million £ horses especially on flat,breeding etc,wouldnt seem beyond the wit of man to engineer a comfortable restraint/cradle  of some sort ,which means they cant sit/lay on floor when horses are left unattended especially overnight
Report SlippyBlue April 29, 2024 5:52 PM BST
Yes Ascot!
Report Wesdag April 29, 2024 6:04 PM BST

Apr 29, 2024 -- 5:10PM, duffy wrote:


No, I don't either, but that is suggesting that something more could be done, but it obviously can't because relatively speaking Shishkin is a Frankel, he's jumping royalty, certainly within the Henderson yard he is and particularly with that trainer if there was more that could be done to protect horses it certainly would have been.


No, not suggesting neglect but more the point Frankel worth probably around £100m, I'd make sure he's watched 24/7.

Nevertheless, I'm surprised smart minds haven't come up with a solution.

Report The Dragon April 29, 2024 6:23 PM BST
yes very sad news indeedCry
Report impossible123 April 29, 2024 7:00 PM BST
Did it happen as he was getting up? If so, blooming unlucky. Oldies like me are finding it more and more difficult getting up unaided post sitting down on the floor without assistance eg holding onto a support.
Report duffy April 29, 2024 10:58 PM BST
imp,

Presumably when you and I struggle to get up we don't panic, the horse settles down too close to the sides and then can't get up because they are too close to the side and can't shuffle out to give themselves room and then panic and that's when they get injured.....something like that anywaySad
Report irishone April 30, 2024 7:17 AM BST
Feck me duffy first bit of decent horse knowledge you ever posted

Dont think the horse got back up to beat davy back in the day, i was right on the line , my pocket said.

Another of Henderson's "why me ?" interviews on its way
Report irishone April 30, 2024 7:20 AM BST
Smart minds use fields
Report The Knight April 30, 2024 12:36 PM BST
The older I become, the more I am convinced that some people and some animals are 'fated' in life.

They have great ability and talent but suffer outrageous swings of fortune along the way.

Shiskin must be a good example. Brilliant on his day, but refusing to race once, stumbling with the King George surely at his mercy, and now meeting he end in such a sad way.

Certainly not a dull life but one ended too soon.
Report 1st time poster April 30, 2024 12:53 PM BST
bloke in the daily mail today
was in the pub at soho pub bombing
and involved in  HATFIELD train crash 18 months later

bet he has no one sat next to him on a train,plane anymore LaughLaugh
Report impossible123 April 30, 2024 1:51 PM BST
'duffy', I must watch myself in the future. I'd break my back or wrist when I get up from a settee or floor. I'm terrified walking on the pavement in the winter esp with leaves lying around; one slip, one could bang one's head falling.
Report DancingBraveTheBest April 30, 2024 1:55 PM BST
imp....there are some simple exercises over 50s 60s should be doing every day.....only takes about 5 to 10 minutes a day to help with mobility.Happy
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 30, 2024 1:56 PM BST
You wouldn't want to travel with Tom Hanks either

Crash landed and ended up on a desert island
Emergency landing on the River Hudson
Attacked by pirates on board a ship
Stranded at an airport
On Apollo 13 with all the emergency issues
And as for Forest Gump

Laugh
Report duffy April 30, 2024 2:01 PM BST
Went bed aged 12 and woke up aged 25Grin

Being part of the Normandy landings

Go back from all that and was diagnosed with Aids ffsShocked
Report Storm Alert April 30, 2024 2:17 PM BST
Andrew.in.Sweden LaughLaugh
Report impossible123 April 30, 2024 4:36 PM BST
Every morning I'll do a 5 min stretch in the bathroom before washing my face 2x and hair under the bathtub taps. The stretch involves touching my toes 10x (left/right) in quick succession; doing the Floss 10x; rocking forward and backward 10x; squating 10x; lifting my legs (4x) and turn 360 degree before swivelling my neck 5x left/right (will feel giddy if more).

I'll experience stiffness in my knees and hip when bending down if I did not do this stretch the entire day. I'd walk for several miles and over 1hr (no running) and carry 10kg of shopping. I'd try to do this at least 3x a week; park the car 1/2 to shops.

But, I can feel it's getting progressively more taxing each time. The joy of getting on/old.
Report duffy April 30, 2024 4:39 PM BST
You'll feel a lot better if you knock all of that on the head IMOGrin
Report Hayden April 30, 2024 4:45 PM BST
Impossible

That bathroom exercise you do in the morning , any chance you can stick it on you tube  Grin
Report impossible123 April 30, 2024 4:49 PM BST
No Hayden!

Each to his own 'duffy'. I used to play a lot of football (could run for 3/4hrs) but hopeless at school X-country. I'd not even manage 3m!
Report duffy April 30, 2024 4:49 PM BST
Laugh
Report breadnbutter April 30, 2024 4:56 PM BST
Sad news indeed, my own take on Shishkin was he was unusual in do much as he appeared to  me to be tall and close coupled, always appeared to be a hell of a lot going on underneath, perhaps just a slightly diff stride pattern but to me a diff sort and could not figure out his correct trip, perhaps his quick stride pattern gave  him an ability to quicken, it was like he had a higher reving engine but it  took him a while to put it all together in a race,to me cut in the ground suited, he made two  decent horses look slow in the KG and would have won but for tripping himself (great spot Ruby W) up.
A great shame he wont get the chance go back to kempton and put it all together  altho the jury was still out on whether he was a GC hope, no reason why not, sadly we will never know.
A sad loss for all in racing, stable been through the ringer of late.
Report impossible123 April 30, 2024 4:59 PM BST
I remember 2/3 years before Covid I visited friends in Hackney. We walked from Homerton High Street (by Tesco) to the Olympic Stadium (West Ham) then thro' some parks, and back to Homerton High Street in the bright sunshine. And, I was not the slightest tired. It was baking too.

Now, I'd think twice before doing the same again.
Report impossible123 April 30, 2024 5:04 PM BST
I liked Shishkin more than I like Altior (I backed Buveur D'Air). I think he was impeded (by a faller) at the 2nd last hurdle and yet went on to chin Abacadabras. Sad loss!
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