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impossible123
07 Apr 24 15:21
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...it's so expensive. It's also populated with lazy journalism eg writing articles using info gathered over the phone, and not from on the ground. It's also bookies' dependent on survival, and as such usually writing for their paymasters, not punters.

The Racing Post would/did not believe that bet restrictions and closing accounts of recreational punters were very common until just recently. The Racing Post does not represent punters, but bookies - their paymasters.

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By:
Gaze733
When: 07 Apr 24 15:24
Everyone on here is a winner, you should be able to afford it.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 07 Apr 24 15:27
There’s 2 pages of articles,78 pages of factual information,which you’d be lost without.

Who else would give you this info,the 3rd party correct score company who Betfair employ,

They d have frankel running in the national,with the caveat they can’t be held responsible for the info being correct.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 07 Apr 24 15:29
It’s 1.50 a day. On line.

Or 20 quid a day in fuel,trying to find a shop that has a copy in stock.
By:
lead on
When: 07 Apr 24 15:31
It's only when they realised that no-one will need a RP anymore...as for the Weekender now embarrassing...this week they even let the teagirl have a whole page to herself...an article about a lovely day out at Plumpton and a couple of paragraohs making a case for her National guess..
By:
racing6699
When: 07 Apr 24 15:56
It has the model of paying for it - and ramming adverts down your throat everywhere. But the reality is they make much more from bookmakers than they do off us paying for it
By:
comingupthehill
When: 07 Apr 24 16:25
Until the government has a policy of giving punters money.the only way you can get money off betting,is off the bookmakers,so you need them to flourish,how else can they pay you out.
By:
Jinxy1
When: 07 Apr 24 16:34
The At The Races website and Timeform free App gives you everything you need to study form etc etc, who the hell needs the RP anymore.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 07 Apr 24 16:37
I subscribe to the RP online to get access to their breeding database
By:
Gaze733
When: 07 Apr 24 17:48
I use RP but the free site has everything I need
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Apr 24 18:00
With regards to horseracing, it's a fallacy one will can get money from bookies who do not take bets (incidentally), if so only very selectively sometimes with restriction too eg 10p. There are other outlets to bet with and/or form of recreational activities. 

In today's digital age there are other sources equivalent to the Racing Post for horseracing info, if one is resourceful. The Racing Post is well past its use-by-date; it's existence is being propped-up by its paymasters ie the bookies.

It's journalism is pants too!
By:
mrcombustible
When: 07 Apr 24 18:24
Impossible where else can I get breeding information with progeny form and sales prices all at a click or two. I don't want to go to several sites to get the info.
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impossible123
When: 07 Apr 24 18:37
'mrcombustible', I get it from several sources, if necessary. But, you're a more serious horseracing fan than me or most here. Nevertheless, it's expensive just for that info esp for a paper not conducive to horseracing, and horseracing fans.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 07 Apr 24 19:13
Thaks Impossible

I do agree that it is very expensive
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 08 Apr 24 07:45
The newspaper of the industry repeatedly rolls over and gets its tummy tickled by the betting companies. Over time the influence of the betting companies on its editorial decisions has grown and therefore by definition its lack of stomach to properly champion the sport has diminished.

Half hearted attempts at fighting sustainability rules that were woefully late in being identified at the time they should've been and a wilful disregard to call out the BHA or Jockey Club on anything make it an expensive worthless charade for what it was and/or could've been.
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Ramruma
When: 08 Apr 24 08:17
The bookmakers vs punters point is often made, although I'm not sure the paper would prosper if it turned down all bookmakers' advertising.

But ironically, many in the industry complain the Racing Post is too focussed on punters, with endless pages of tipsters rather than devoting 90 per cent of the paper to breeding, or training or whatever is the complainant's own fancy.

For all the Post's shortcomings, we'd be lost without it, and I suspect so would some of the alternative sources favoured by some.
By:
Ramruma
When: 08 Apr 24 08:19
As an aside, regarding private handicap ratings, almost everyone now quotes RPRs rather than Timeform ratings. Is that the rise of the Post or the fall of Timeform since Betfair took over?
By:
The Pies
When: 08 Apr 24 09:30
I now only bet when I go racing (maybe 20 times a year) so the free form and RPR ratings on-line + free access to Sporting Life replays are brilliant.
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 08 Apr 24 09:40

Apr 8, 2024 -- 8:17AM, Ramruma wrote:


The bookmakers vs punters point is often made, although I'm not sure the paper would prosper if it turned down all bookmakers' advertising.But ironically, many in the industry complain the Racing Post is too focussed on punters, with endless pages of tipsters rather than devoting 90 per cent of the paper to breeding, or training or whatever is the complainant's own fancy.For all the Post's shortcomings, we'd be lost without it, and I suspect so would some of the alternative sources favoured by some.


I've got no issues with the paper selling advertising space to betting companies, I do have serious issues with with a very poor quality of journalism generally and a serious lack of calling out what needs calling out in the sport.

To say we couldn't live without it is quite frankly untrue.

By:
sparrow
When: 08 Apr 24 09:42
Have to agree with almost all of what Ramruma says. The tipster pages are just not necessary for punters who are quite capable of interpreting form for themselves.
By:
formoftheace
When: 08 Apr 24 10:30
Chronicle & the Life were the best reads by far…..
By:
ribero1
When: 08 Apr 24 10:42
Isn't the online going up by about £100? will have a think when my subscription ends,agree about the tipsters,page after page and the new kid on the block Dineen headlining 8/13 shots,utterly pointless. Enjoy reading the paper the night before and that's about it.
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