Chapman going on about Shoemark........again!!!!!

Agree

Fitzy now going on about Jason Watson, great jockey, very talented.

Any Jockey's that are not very good and talented, it's all you hear

Up there in the top half dozen already, behind Moore, Buick, Murphy, Marquand and J Doyle imo, and more to come as he gets to regularly ride top class horses.

All capable no more…

Reminds me of when Alan Bond got the Henry Cecil job and did not last 5 minutes....I hope i am wrong though.

You have a choice: either swallow what presenters say - in which case they are all great jockeys/trainers etc, or simply ignore the lot of them.

Generally a really proactive jock.

I think he's a good jockey myself but that's just my view.
Certainly don't take it as a negative if he's jocked up.

Layemall.....so in your opinion Shoemark is a better jockey than Rossa Ryan?

I think the Gosden ought to have sought the advice of Francome.

Yes he is "better" Grayhawk, both on and off a horse. I am sure the Gosden's know what they're doing. I'll leave it at that.

hes definitely better than most

Ta.

Love it when Sanders takes Chapman down a peg or two.......he definitely does get obsessed by certain jockeys......... don't remember him going on about Brian Hughes the way he does about the vastly overrated Cobden over jumps....

Apr 5, 2024 -- 6:27PM, grayhawk wrote:

Layemall.....so in your opinion Shoemark is a better jockey than Rossa Ryan?

I have RR ahead of most jockeys gray

So do i Wonders.

and jason hart is better than ryan and shoemark

hart a long term top 5% jockey

What exactly was said about Shoemark as I try not to listen to Chapman and nothing has been explained here.

He can't understand why such a top class jockey doesn't get any outside rides....

he,s about a league below havlin isnt he in general /ignoring the age thing  who doesnt/hasnt/never got lots of outside rides

Jockey talk

If they are 'good' then they are 'good' at placing their horses exactly where they are 'told to' in a race IMO. And that sometimes is shuffling around near the back never nearer etc...so who gives a feck about what jockey is riding really?

Thank you, skiptoo.