An absolute all time low for ITV Racing .

You see that watch Adele is wearing well I bought that fckr

3 at the table remind me of the Muppets

Mute my best friend

ive never seen itv but theres nothing wrong with adele from limited evidence on rtv

is he? poor fellow

Remember the insight youd get off jimbo McGrath and the horses  bloodlines etcetec -- this is from the family of Danehill etc etc etc . Not much knowledge from the gang these days , chatting about a horse running off 8-9 ... 9-1 etcetc means absolutely nothing . no mention of Official Ratings whatsoever .

all time great ? from fitzy today to winning  jock
does it help if a horse acts on the track ?

Adele Paul    

Francome, Down, Mcgrath were all excellent, as is Weaver.
But go woke, go broke

im actually thinking of going on the tele  myself but then again ive already broken 3 this year doing that

Was it on earlier? I was looking for the annual Easter Classic race, but every race was a handicap.

The old BBC coverage was miles ahead of the rest, both Flat and NH.

Julian Wilson, Peter O'Sullivan, Willie Carson, Jimmy Lindley, the great Bill Smith etc etc.

Yes mightymac spot on

BBC threw in the towel on horse racing as did Channel 4 so good for ITV for bringing horse racing to those who do not have the sky racing channels.

more of the muppets today i see . women covered in make up and thick lipstick is not the racing image . how have they got this gig ?

Friends with
BENEFITS

The ITV race commentator voiced his disapproval with the shortie price of the fav/winner; ate humble pie despite the horse did not get a good break and yet won handsomely.

Mighty Mac! Agreed!!

They give council TV viewers chance to see some live armchair horse racing , so full credit for that as the fading sport needs all the viewers it can muster.

So well done ITV 

The whole world & all television is going down the tubes. Why would anyone think that ITV racing would be different.

its all going woke, the Heads of television only mix with lefties and woke, and they actually think everyone thinks the same way.
They're in for a shock

Just had a shufty ITV racing. Real cringe

funnily enough dambuster, C5 broadcast a surprisingly terrific show last night called The Sewer Map of Britain. Delightfully non woke and actually very informative. Partly explaining the engineering feats of the new Thames Tideway Tunnel, of which up to this show I was not even aware of.

Couldn't resist it.  Are you confirming to us that ITV is full of,.....
As for the remembering of Jim McGrath who I admit was very knowledgeable I always wondered why he was dropped from our screens?
Anyone?
He used to make me laugh when he tried to transmit his modesty by saying - and he said it with some frequency - "If you go racing as often as I do you would know - and I go racing every day"!
Yeah - right Jim.  I always used to do the "We're not worthy" bit when he finished.

Read a detailed report recently on why our waters , particularly Thames , are in such a dreadful state , it went through all the singular to triple designs and showed us up for being a few decades behind the Scandinavians for one.

That really opened my eyes as well   

unlucky or laughable
oily bell at muss on thurs to present fri,s newcastle/lingfield from muss ,at muss this morning/this afternoon to prsent racing from haddock carlise
3 days at muss to prsent no racing from muss

I know it's c5 Hayden but I thought the show was excellent. What a genius Sir Joseph William Bazalgette was. I lived in London for 30 years and had no idea what an influence he had, actually changing the shape of the Thames.

Of course Britain has been the front runner in so many areas of civil engineering over the centuries, a lot of our stuff is now very old, and people will have learned from us. And it could never have accounted for the sudden mass population increase that politicians in recent years have used their own version of engineering to create.

Wouldn't debate what you're saying cider for sure but looking at the way in particular the Scandinavians have adopted the three way design for the separation of three different water types it makes ours look like something from Dickens times and just trusting to luck.

That decision making for the Boat Race today with the enforced rule changes due to health fears is embarrassing to say the least.

Which Scandi city has 14 million people ?

Obviously there are two main factors in relation to the Thames, extraordinary levels of over population, and centuries of development. Unfortunately you can just redo the underground, or the narrow roads, or the sewerage system. The could do something about limiting the population, but are doing the opposite and actively expediting its growth.

Ive no idea about whether comparing sizes is relevant Cider tbh it was just the explanation of modern designs that made the report interesting and how far it's come beyond the now archaic creations of past centuries.

Can't debate it any further as i'm a rookie on the subject , just read a report when the Thames situation became under scrutiny and believe what i've read until i'm convinced otherwise.

So that's all i have to offer on the topic , good punting   

It's just common sense. I live somewhere in England that was a field 50 years ago. So all of the civil engineering is since that time that time, using accumulated knowledge. As a result we don't experience the issues I outlined. An property built today will always have superior insulation to a property built 100 years ago. The best built car 30 years ago will be less fuel efficient than the worst built car today.

It doesn't mean that car manufacturing and design was useless 30 years ago. It's beyond comprehension really but so many people born in this country or moved to it are now desperate to do it down and do its history down. I think they think it makes them somehow seem intelligent.

bbc racing with julien wilson was sheer class , oh how much i especially miss the big meetings on beeb

bbc racing took a nose dive before it was fully canned. eg Balding and her grandstanding.

Beeb treat the fodder just like fodder,they have no respect for the viewers…..

can you imagine if bbc did have racing now. it would most likely be horrendous

Just paid £159 for license worse than beaten a shd….

grahem rocky rock in betting ring dont no where the 33 to 6,s money on pasternack has come from
julian wilson i dont pay trainers bills for viwers to get better price than me
clare thats my dad,s /brothers horses
o,sullivan thats my horse jumping last in front
jimmy everything looks great, gets a great ride lindley 

think they were just around at right time

they,d be getting pelters for similar comments today

I've not paid the tv tax for 6 years. 1 visit, told him to bogger off. Lots of un named letter drops straight to recycling.

The commentator at that time went on far too long ( POS ) , he whispered for the last couple of years.

Well done Cider , like your style   

Cider 30 Mar 24 15:49 
I've not paid the tv tax for 6 years. 1 visit, told him to bogger off. Lots of un named letter drops straight to recycling.

Cider 30 Mar 24 15:49 
I've not paid the tv tax for 6 years. 1 visit, told him to bogger off. Lots of un named letter drops straight to recycling.

yes o,sullivan had completely lost it for last 3 or 4 yrs went on far to long,in the end made clattermole sound like joe 90

I agree. He went on too long.

Cider 30 Mar 24 15:43 
can you imagine if bbc did have racing now. it would most likely be horrendous



Yes you would be crying all day.

I've not watched bbc output for years, so highly unlikely.

The BBC Would want horses painted in Rainbow colours, as not too offend 0.01 % of the population who don't watch it

Same here Cider but not had your bottle to stop payment 

5 hrs of terry hall and specials on bbc 4 last night was worth the yrs licence fee alone

If the BBC had racing, there'd be a disabled transgender lesbian Muslim person of colour as an expert in the studio giving an opinion. Possibly a friend of Gammy Lickacur.

I agree Mr Poster. Lenny the Lion & Terry Hall were a great act! I haven 't watched it this afternoon as Saturday afternoon is my Sporting Sabbath!

Julian Wilson was racing manager for Waler Mariti who's Pontevecchio Notte won the City and Suburban handicap in 1987 at Epsom.

Funny how such an obscure fact has stayed in my head for ALL THIS TIME. Trained by Gavin Pritchard-Gordon, ridden by UNKNOWN

Literally nothing to worry about, Hayden. I only answered the door that one time as I was expecting a delivery, and told him I only watch you tube and netflix. They are not allowed in the property unless invited. Other than that it's just those auto generated anonymised letters that claim they will be visiting the address, but it's just fantasy and they go in recycling unopened.

In summer 1988 Tyne Tees Television (using some of channel 4 team) covered the non bank holiday Monday Beeswing Stakes meeting where Salse beat Always Fair, Big Mac interviewed Jackie Milburn on that broadcast.

Most memorable piece i remember about Julian Wilson was when he interviewed the Ascot steward following the Royal Gait disqualification , i've got it on tape somewhere , classic stuff.

He was an extremely shrewd punter as well , i can immediately recall the top three customers based on strike rate for odds against bets , all three were unrestricted well known names and he was one of them.

was the city and surburban on derby day ,i only went to one derby ,teenoso ridden by piggot,but back jack hansons florida son in the derby day 10 furlong handicap ,£2e ew at 25,s ,decent money in those days felt like a millionaire for a few hrs ,great days

DEFFO not derby day may have been the Epsom meeting where Unfuwain 1st touted his Derby credentials, he then went to Chester.  May sometime.

Or even April

I think the city and Suburban was run at the spring meeting alongside the derby trial and Great Met.

It was a 2 day meeting back then.

Mar 30, 2024 -- 5:22PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

Julian Wilson was racing manager for Waler Mariti who's Pontevecchio Notte won the City and Suburban handicap in 1987 at Epsom.Funny how such an obscure fact has stayed in my head for ALL THIS TIME. Trained by Gavin Pritchard-Gordon, ridden by UNKNOWN

He owned Pontenuovo who won the Royal Hunt Cup under Gary Bardwell i think.

Having found the Wiki page I see no sign of Pontevecchio Notte, is my memory playing tricks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_and_Suburban_Handicap

Did J Wilson own Tumbledownwind a Gimcrack winner?

Yes mate

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/22/julian-wilson

Julian Wilson died in 2014
Lester Piggot died in 2022

Guardian obituary for Lester is written by Julian Wilson

Thanks Hayden, there is not much I do remember nowadays.