In Dor 7.6 after the mistake at the last...

all orchestrated by the gps or people abso despo to be 1st in.

you must feel a right clown tho Mr.Hunt...

miles clear...

wins bar a fall...

and you've layed it somewhere between 1.03 and 7.6...

i don't get it tbh.

I saw it hit 5 with £34 available, 1 sec after it's stumble. Obvs a manual trader with a twitchy finger who was expecting a fall. I was lucky enough to get a small piece.

definitely went to 7.6 jamee...

saw it with my own 3 eyes.

do people actually lay something coz they 'expect' it to fall jamee ?

On the drone pictures, or live at the track with the right angle, it's much easier to spot a potentially risky jump on take-off. I'm sure there will be some people laying potential fallers at the last before a horse has even crossed the fence.

I'm sure there will be some people laying potential fallers at the last before a horse has even crossed the fence.

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not at 7.6 they wont.

Yes I agree. Perhaps someone hit the wrong button.

eg meant to lay up to 1.5 and actually laid up to 10 or something.

how could you mean to lay at 1.5 and actually lay at 10 jamee ?

i'm not saying it doesn't happen...

just wondering what procedure they use to make such a mistake ?

its quite simple..someone/bot offered 7.6

yes i know that Mr.Hunt...

it's the reason i put 7.6 in the thread title...

i am asking jamee how someone could mean to offer 1.5 but mistakenly offer 10 (his example) ?

If I was doing this then I would have several lay button options ready to hit based on how I judged the risk of a fall.

eg:
lay £x up to 1.05, lay £x up to 1.1,lay £x up to 1.2, lay £x up to 1.5 etc etc.

They could have misjudged risk and hit the wrong button.

Or they could just have one button that lays up to a much bigger price than they would normally expect to reach, and got hit by a freak of the market at that moment. eg they could have laid £x up to 10.0 and normally would only get matched out to 1.2, but this time it went up to 7.6 because there was less available to match at that moment.

thank you for the explanation jamee.

absolute sh1te jamee..

if you click to lay 7.6 the bot lays ewe 7.6..unless u clicking for a fiver.

everytime i back or lay with an overide i get matched up to my overide..the bot manages your request for their best return..meks not a jot what ewe see on screen.

same as wen someone clicks the rong horse for a big amount when its trading at 1000..the bot lets you take it for peanuts every price down to 1.0?

That's because you're picking up all the pennies up to 1000 and there's hardly any volume.

A horse clear and approaching the last will have hundreds, possibly thousands available to be laid below 2.0. You could easily lay a few hundred at 10.0 and almost always will get it all matched below even money.

...assuming that it doesn't fall of course. If it actually falls then offers will swiftly be cancelled, the price will shoot out, and the 10.0 might not even get fully matched.

sew with that rationale,how did a 1.02 got to 7.6? someone click lay £10,000 at 7.6?

Someone hit bigger than they wanted to (volume and/or price). Or a quirk of the market meant there was less volume than they expected waiting at that moment.

I think overall you generally underestimate the power of the cancellation and its impact on market movement. A whole second advantage over anyone looking to take what's there. When a price moves out, is it because it's being taken, or because it's being cancelled?

did you see the gaps and little amounts done up to 7.6? i will repeat..the bot analyses your request and maximises best return for the house..its a fine cistern.

personally i think there is a bit of truth in both angles...

i think someone hit 7.6 (thinking it was a goner)...

some folk cancelled thinking it was a goner...

the layer didn't get the liquidity they wanted and when they thought they'd get matched at very short prices it went all the way out to 7.6 (bearing in mind peanuts were matched at 7.6 not their whole lay i would suggest)...

7.6 is probably what they always hit when the see a 'faller' (only this time it didn't fall)...

so i actually think you are BOTH right tbh.

does make me wonder how fast their pics are and how much of an in running delay they have when they pop in 7.6 for a faller tbh...

considering the cancellers only have a 0.2 sec delay.

1 sec of an in running delay difference...

yet they pop in 7.6 for a faller..

doesn't add up to me tbh.

and the place is hardly swimming in in running liquidity these days...

mmm.

folkd offer 1000 for hundreds when they are 1.01 in the pink.

therefore the person who wants to lay at 7.6 must have a good advantage imv...

if you know folk will lay at 1000 for hundreds...

to lay at 7.6 you must KNOW you have a good advantage over them or you would go 1000 yourself...

obviously you will poo poo that (so there is no need to).

i click to lay 1000 when they are 20/1..ive no advantage..in fact im at a disadvantage.

stop bringing in what YOU do Mr.Hunt...

i am questioning what the 7.6 bloke does...

not YOU.

if it was genuinely a level laying field...

same pic speed and same in running delay...

NOBODY would lay at 7.6 imv...

NOBODY.

bloke who clicked 7.6 doesnt want to risk 5k..

or maybe the bloke who clicked 7.6 has an advantage over others ?

i know which one i'd be putting my money on.

pure conjecture.

common sense (for some of us).

track has advantage over drone..drone has advantage over blv..blv has advantage over rtv.

knee eye deer where the clicker was.

track has advantage over drone..

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oh so you now admit folk play at the track ?

thought you said that was a thing of the past mr.Hunt ?

and if folk are playing at the track...

whereabouts exactly ?

sitting in the grandstand.

I could see people playing 'spot the faller' at the final fence. Would probably be worth it to sit there every race and hit one every few visits.

Boring as ****, mind.

before people went on track i know people from the office i was in,one went to track and calling faller via mobile phone often got thousands on a faller.

Must have been so much easy money for early adopters in the noughties. I was too busy building a proper career like a loser.

jamee / Mr.Hunt...

when i was looking at a 'new' pc i remember you giving me some decent advice on it...

just a quick Q...

happy with the 'new' pc (the SSD is much faster) but...

it's still a bit annoying i can't get the telly to work for audio...

so i was thinking is it possible to simply switch the SSD from my 'new' pc in to my old pc (which is an HDMI to HDMI connection and it plays the audio through the telly) ?

thank you.

Probably, but depends on your internal connections. It seems a little 'sledgehammer' to swap storage into a lesser-specced PC just to get audio working. Did you try the cable/adapter Mr Flaps recommended?

yes jamee...

no good...

i will just keep it as it is then until i get round to getting another 'new' pc...

ta.

i might look at a new SSR for the 'old' pc jamee...

any idea where to get one and how much ?

i normally use ebay tbh.

I don't know anything about SSD compatibility.

What other connections do you have on your PC? If you have a headphone socket for example you can probably connect that to your TV or just connect up some cheap PC speakers directly.

i did just connect speakers to the pc jamee...

i'd prefer it through the telly tbh...

anyway thanx.

switching hard drives isnt going to add an hdmi..external connectors wont change.

you clearly have not read properly what i said Mr.Hunt...

jumping in half way through with a sledgehammer as per usual.

so i was thinking is it possible to simply switch the SSD from my 'new' pc in to my old pc (which is an HDMI to HDMI connection and it plays the audio through the telly) ?

yes but you'd need someone from a pc shop to ghost your data from the old hd to the ssd.

remind me..at present the new pc is connected to the tele via hdmi but no sound from tele?

new pc has one of those funny connectors (name i forget but it's similar to an hdmi with one of it's corners cut off and it has more pins)...

telly has hdmi so i connected an hdmi to (one of those funny connectors) cable to the new pc...

video fine...

no audio...

therefore to get audio i connected a pair of speakers which is fine but i would prefer the pc to telly audio to work.

ahh aye display port cable..display port can carry multi channel digital audio and video signals simultaneously although it isn't always implemented by device manufacturers..glue to small spaeaker to back of tele..easier option imo.

ahh aye display port cable..display port can carry multi channel digital audio and video signals simultaneously although it isn't always implemented by device manufacturers..glue two small speakers to back of tele..easier option imo.

could be outdated or incompatible graphics drivers.

Check the Device status in the Device Manager. The yellow exclamation mark provides an indication of a device's current status and could mean that there is a system resource conflict, a driver issue, or any number of other things. Refer to these steps to open Device Manager.

1. Press Windows and X keys together.

2. Click on Device Manager.

3. Expand Sound, video and game controller.



I would suggest you to try the below steps and check if it helps:

a. Right click on the speaker icon which is on the bottom right corner.

b. Click on playback devices.

c. under playback tab highlight speakers\headphones

d. then Click on properties

e. select Advanced tab

f. then Click on Restore to default

i went through that stuff previously and it didn't happen Mr.Hunt...

i've no idea why the display port to hdmi cable isn't allowing audio tbh...

i will upgrade pc at some point and make sure it's an SSD drive and it has an HDMI connection instead of the Display Port nonsense.

i will also explore the possibility of popping an SSD drive in to my 'old' pc (which was good but definitely slower as it has an HDD drive).

do what i said man..araldite 2 small speakers on to the back of the tele ewe use..no will see em.