Don't worry Penzance, Lay can't google.

penzance 25 Mar 24 21:19 
Sorry can't do links.It's a Guardian piece.
From Sept 1st year of article.




What was the story headline as I can't find the guardian story so far and I'm a subscriber.

Only article found in September 2023  was regarding Luke Comer.

Newland is right about a few things even if the article sounds like some ramblings. The idea of banning Irish runners would utterly destroy and finish the sport. Its a bizarre opinion.

Its great the likes of Cheveley Park, Munir and Souede are called out. The onus needs to be on British owners to support domestic trainers rather than just following success. How egotistical and superficial is that?

It goes without saying that the BHA should be able to randomnly test Irish horses in Ireland if these horses are partaking in races under the umbrella of the BHA. If they cannot (I'm not sure if this is being done currently) it brings the races into disrepute.

absolutely correct ^ but even for optics alone it should be done imho

And love Racing queen last post,I'll have another Bushmills

Newland is a doctor. What would he do if another doctor set up in his area and took away a load of his patients? Write to the General Medical Council and try to ban the other doc. He's a total prat!

Duffy

It’s amazing how often he will hold doors open for other racegoers gives the a smile or touches his hat if it’s a female.

Age may have changed him screaming.

"ts great the likes of Cheveley Park, Munir and Souede are called out. The onus needs to be on British owners to support domestic trainers rather than just following success. How egotistical and superficial is that?"


The above owners do not have a problem using British trainers for their flat horses. Munir did have horses with Newland in the past

Are you the good doctor?

Tom Segal RP
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Paul Nicholls' cornflakes must be strewn all over his kitchen. Since the Cheltenham Festival and even before it, there has been more than the odd article about how British trainers have got complacent and have allowed Willie Mullins to take over, but if ever there was a man who would never rest on his laurels, it's Nicholls. The truth of the matter is that jump racing has become a race to the top financially and he and most of the other British trainers simply cannot compete with Mullins. 

That is no different from any other sport where those with the most money take over – Manchester City are the most obvious example – and the thought of Nicholls, Dan Skelton, Ben Pauling or Nicky Henderson being complacent is just plain wrong. Let's not forget that Henderson would have trained the favourites for the Champion Hurdle and the Triumph, and the second favourites for the Champion Chase and Gold Cup if his string hadn't gone down with the lurgy.

One of my favourite films is The Untouchables which is about the downfall of Al Capone and one of the famous Sean Connery delivered lines in it is that you can't bring a knife to a gunfight, but that is exactly what British trainers did at this Cheltenham and many before. Personally, I think the British trainers overachieved this year and Mullins underachieved. Given their respective firepower, Mullins should really have had more winners than Britain put together, but he didn't.

The question is what British trainers can do to get their hands on the top-class horses who end up going to Closutton and the answer is not an easy one. The perceived wisdom is that British trainers have to get better in their sourcing of the young horses, but it's not like the Flat where the young horses have never run. Everyone knows which of the French horses are good and who the best point-to-pointers are, and they are all going to be sold to the owners with the deepest pockets and then end up with Mullins.

Did Willie Mullins underachieve at Cheltenham?
Did Willie Mullins underachieve at Cheltenham?
Credit: John Grossick (racingpost.com/photos)
I hear it said that the British trainers have to get to these horses before Mullins, but imagine if you're a French trainer with a good horse and a Nicholls or a Skelton come knocking. What's the first thing you're going to do? You are going to offer it to the Mullins team, who will pay more. That's simply market forces and, consequently, everyone else ends up with the horses Mullins doesn't want. Would Man City be the team they are if all they got was Liverpool or Arsenal cast-offs?

The only answer is for the British owners to stop sending all their horses to Mullins and take a leaf out of the Robcour book, who don't have a single horse at Closutton but had two winners and the second in the Champion Hurdle and Gold Cup. If the double greens, Cheveley Park or Rich Ricci, who are all based in Britain, were to spread their horses out more and have a load more trained in Britain, the whole sport would be transformed instantly and be so much more competitive. You can change as many races as you want at the Cheltenham Festival but until the racing becomes more competitive, it will continue to see the number of racing fans who attend decline.

Hear that British owners, Sir Tom advises you to send your horses to British trainers and of course he will help out with the costs etc.

what was hendo,s 2nd fav for gold ?
surely not saying.thinking  shisken would have been 2nd fav for gold cup

mullins has plenty lapped,pulled up,out with the washing,beaten miles never make track etc,etc is segal saying mullins pays £500,000 + for lots of those ?, its easy to concentrate on winners thinking those are ones he spent most on,how does segal/we no
as talked about before i believe mullins buyers are on a retainer to purchase so many horses a yr with no individual  price tags attached, maybe 25 horse for £10 million every year as an example

CROPSICK 27 Mar 24 13:26 
i wish one of these owners would come out and tell all these grifters who put absolutley nothing in to British racing to mind their own buisness when it comes to who they put their horses with.



Their money and their choice and nothing to do with anyone else.

Haven't read through all of this but do recall one of the presenters at the Cheltenham festival whilst commenting on Mullins dominance, said that some of these graded winners that Mullins had acquired at the sales, had Nicholls as the under bidder. Saying that if the potential owners had pushed the boat out a little more then they would have been in Nicholls yard not Mullins, food for thought.
   Similarly you could say the same on the flat with the best bred horses going to Coolmore and Godolphin because they pay the most for the best horses.

Yes there was.