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Mr Phil Bull founder of Timeform
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just had another look to check,my Mother walks past him holding her racecard at 14.27
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Just looked Ribero1 I'm sure that must be a wonderful moment for you , what a brilliant memory for you to treasure...
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I’ve was waiting for you to come on ribero wasn’t sure if you could get YouTube I’ve only just learnt how to get it,i think it’s one of the great inventions I’m sure it’s right up your street ,all those old races are on love it
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There was something I noticed at York that I’ve never seen on a racecourse before it was filmed in 1983 so by then I had been racing at York quite a few times
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Thanks Workrider,yes indeed,my parents weren't into foreign holidays and went to Goodwood and Ascot a few times but settled on Newmarket and were members for years,used to stay at the Bedford Lodge which Jimnast will know well.I'll have a look Jimnast.
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There myself in April ribero
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Thought you might be!,obviously know all the books in the York piece,the guy who has the £100 on with Colin Webster before Bull was Lol Smith,lovely fellow but an absolute sufferer,very pally with Jimmy Scott of Stoute fame. Dick Warden was a nice old boy used to have his £100 on with Laddies and was a fair lead,his colours are still about,the Habton Farm colours of Tim Easterby.
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Think Jimmy Scott was head lad when Shergar and marwell were there that’s a long time ago.
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That's correct,Shergar was one of Lol's few success stories.
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Should have added Colonel Dick owned Jobroke ,a proper Cheltenham gamble.
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Had to laugh when sangster basically tells bull Golden Fleece is certain to win the derby so bull bets 3 against him,to be fair there were doubts about Golden Fleece getting to Epsom in fact hills offered a price about both the pope and Golden Fleece been in England on derby day ,the doubt about the pope was the Falkland war was going on.
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Jimnast the worst travelling head lad for tips was the guy who worked for Cumani the same era as Jimmy Scott. Can't think of his name glad to say I never took any notice of them.
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yes it's a very enjoyable Jimnast
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Jobroke would have been around an hour after dawn run had won the gold cup
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Incidentally haven't spotted the York thing?
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It’s not related to bookmakers or horses ribero
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Is it Barclays bank?
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Ronnie cumani had someone very good around the late 80s
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Yes it’s Barclays Bank I’ve never seen a bank on a racecourse nowadays you never see a bank
Regarding YouTube I think it’s been going a couple of years now it’s very good no need for a tv licence really. |
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Jimnast.
It's come to me Sammy. |
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You're lucky to see a Bank anywhere nowadays!
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Not sure it was the same one as I never knew his name ronnie
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Jimnast.
Very very rare did I listen to a head lad but one I would be ginger who worked for Bruce Hobbs. |
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Didn’t really see much of the Bruce Hobbs era ronnie but by an amazing coincidence I was at the Dante in which tyranvos ran in and would you believe Phil bull was in the lift tipping the horse for the Dante he got beat but I kept the faith and backed him at Epsom again he got beat which was a blessing as I backed him again at the curragh at 25/1
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YouTube is an American online video sharing and social media platform owned by Google. Accessible worldwide, it was launched on February 14, 2005
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Never realised youtube was as recent as that. Before that I was downloading music onto my computer and converting to CDs from such as Napster and WinMX.
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2005 ffs I’m well up to speed on things
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You need a laptop jimnast and then those links are easy.
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I have it on the tele sparrow and it seems to know the things I like so when I go onto it there’s always something there also I know how to type a request in like 1975 fa cup final and up it pops
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I do also have a lap top but use an iPad most of the time as I’m not a good speller so it does it for me
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Well you seem on top of things with all those gadgets.
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A few mentions of Dick Whitford here, i also used to follow some of his 'form' selections in the SL. I was working for Fokker BV at Schiphol Airport in 1985, no betting accounts or internet and i really fancied Slip Anchor to win the Epsom Derby so i went over to London simply to back it.
DW had an article on page 1 of the SL that day, stating Slip Anchor would win the Derby by 5L. He wasn't far out (won by 7L). |
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About a week before the race a journalist asked Phil Bull who he thought would win the Derby.
"I'll tell you tomorrow after I've backed it to win 20,000 pounds." He told the hack, I think it was Roger Mortimer, the horse was Grundy. Don't know what price he got but reckon it was about 8. Green Desert went off fav with Grundy 5-1. |
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Was that the first aftertimer
Fair play to him but Dick did seem very shrewd too. |