You got to be stupid to hand over your private information.

Yep agree 100%…and pass on from one undesirable to another……

Most of us could see a certain blogger punt decent cash at Cheltenham no Q asked……

whys a bookmaker any different to any white van man doing a job in your house,hairdresser,shop, ebay,amazon, a million internet firms etc,etc

I doubt any bookie needs personal information to clean out Seaside or Quixall, they do it daily and have been for decades going by their records on here!!

Personally I pay white van men in cash.
More seriously Amazon Ebay etc have my debit card details and address but Betfair have that. I wouldn't send my bank statements,utility bills to Amazon either.

CagliariG 19 Mar 24 09:43 
I doubt any bookie needs personal information to clean out Seaside or Quixall, they do it daily and have been for decades going by their records on here!!

Ffs…….lol you never give up Cagliari

be mad to hand info over to regulated/licensed bookmaker but apparently answer is for many to hand over millions  to blackmarket bookmakers,trusting them to pay out/uphold rules etc,etc

Just honest appraisal Quixall!! Btw have you a strategy for the opening day of the turf when fitness etc etc is an unknown for seasonal debuts etc?

Very few first time out here,unless Newmarket send them up north against the moderate….

Maiden punts can be found at Newmarket with the second string from the big yards….normally a good price in the place market….

Obvious you don’t rate seaside ….who do you rate Cagliari ?

All newcomers in the Brocklesby and my point being that you stated this was to be a turning point and you will not know anything regards fitness etc whether they are Southern trained or otherwise in any race?

I wouldn’t touch the race with a rusty washer…..

Punters hear it year in year out,burning up the gallops,catching pigeons,gaffer likes him….Bla Bla Pee ffs

People on here prepared to trust all sorts of supposed bookmakers with their money when they think they can pinch a point or two so they may as well give betfair their bank statements.

The valuable things are address, bank account numbers and credit/debit card details. Most businesses have some of that from anyone who uses the internet but they only need to know one. Booking.com automatically fills in my card number because I have allowed them to, Betfair transfers winnings to a nominated account etc. I keep 99% of my funds in other accounts than the one I use for those transactions so if a bookmaker wanted to know all of my accounts I would stop using them straight away.

Planet earth is all high risk now,1.01 people who put in long card numbers along with the three important ones on the back will automatically think….will I won’t I…….

Best to keep a second account for buying purposes etc…..transfer from the main…..

I wouldn't be handing my financial details to any on-line bookmaker.

If the past 20 years have shown us anything, it is that regardless of supposedly being "licensed and regulated" by a (completely incompetent and out of it's depth) quango, they have all proactively behaved despicably, dishonourably and dishonestly in their pursuit of profit at any cost. If you doubt this, just enter the words "Bookmaker Fined" into any search engine!

You only have to look at their "customer service" to imagine that your documents would end in some far flung cess-pit of a country being pawed over by low paid agency workers with an enormous rate of attrition.

But to add some balance, it's not just on-line bookmakers that have been in a race to the bottom as far as cutting costs is concerned  - if you are a consumer of gas, electricity, water, broadband, telephony, mobile telephony, insurance, banking, etc, etc - your details are probably already in the hands of low paid agency workers in some far flung overseas cess-pit.

Yep…..100%

The banks have all your information. Do you trust them?

I certainly trust my bank,along with most large companies……you have to….

Been with the same bank since day one along with telephone and power company,no issues…and Sky….

Please do NOT send nothing.

They already have it, I wouldn't worry too much

I noticed people using cards at farmers markets etc,surely a person must carry some cash….all those little white Wi-Fi machines…..

i had a barclays gold credit card about 25 yrs ago with 25 grands worth of credit on it although never used if for more than a couple of grand and always paid balance off at end of month
was in turkey on holiday once and always bought the wife a bit of gold ,ear rings,bracelet etc,it had never dawned on me what info comes up when a card goes in to the machine,but after spending £700 to £800 on some jewlery,the bloke wasnt letting me go saying there was still over 20 grand left on credit card to spend
in retrospect seems obvious available balance comes up but made me wonder what other information shows up on the card reader to anyone who puts it through the machine

Formof.. How can you trust the banks given the scandal that led to us having to bail them out and

the current 'debanking' fiasco.

Mar 19, 2024 -- 1:19PM, Trident wrote:

Please do NOT send nothing.

So what would you sent then?  -and surely they will come back for everything they asked for in the first place. I reckon you either send them everything or refuse entirely.

The problem is that any institution or company delegates the most mundane jobs to the least reliable staff. In a perfect world they would only allow strongly vetted people to see customers accounts but it is anything but perfect and as we know, anyone looking for a quick £100 can sell this stuff to crooks.

I trust my bank First Direct implicitly. They have a no quibble refund policy on almost everything bought with a credit card. Their app is brilliant, their staff are brilliant on the phone. They even put all the letters for my qualification s after my name on my cheque book. The best company I've ever dealt with. As far as bookies- meh. But I have come to trust BetFair over the years & have had nothing but good service when contacting them on chat.

roggrain 19 Mar 24 12:42 
Formof.. How can you trust the banks given the scandal that led to us having to bail them out and

the current 'debanking' fiasco.

I’m only going on personal experience rograin…..same bank,same power company,BT etc…

In the end, one has to give in to technology & learn to have just a littkle trust. As a very old timer technophobe, I was very resistant to apps, online shopping, booking holidays & flights on the net. Now it's all so easy, & with the refund promise by my bank, there's not too much to worry about. Although I do draw the line at phone calls about accounts I don't have & offers if employment from China in return for my bank details & claiming my inheritance from an unknown via a Nigerian solicitor.

Stay away from telephone cr00ks

Told me I had won a car…..yeah ffs…..park it outside and put the keys through the letter box……

@slicer

I am with First Direct too, since the 1990s - they literally could not be better - the only organisation I have a relationship with where I prefer their telephone customer support to doing it myself.

Agreed Mr Longbridge. They're absolutely perfect.

was in turkey on holiday once and always bought the wife a bit of gold ,ear rings,bracelet etc,it had never dawned on me what info comes up when a card goes in to the machine,but after spending £700 to £800 on some jewlery,the bloke wasnt letting me go saying there was still over 20 grand left on credit card to spend

what a helpful man did he ask you if you wanted 5k on the 2-30 ?

was flinging all sorts of gold at the wife whilst trying to force feed me tea, i bolted for the door whilst the shop was still busy,or may never have got out with credit card largely intact

There was one time that I was appreciative of credit card fraud.  I was in a relationship with a lady at which time the credit card was stolen. I never reported it because the thief was spending much less than the lady was.

Surely today everybody has more than 1 bank account

Slicer

rule no 1 for the baccy smugglers never pay by credit card because they charged you 1.5% commission

@ladycarla

"Surely today everybody has more than 1 bank account"

What for?  Unless you're married or living in a houseshare with a joint account for bills?  I have found one decent bank, I don't need to deal with more than one of them.

Long- I've got 4 bank accounts and must of had 50 in my lifetime. Please don't tell me you still with British gas as well

Swap today longbridge £200 waiting for you right now.

married couple need 2 bank acc and a joint one for making best use of onterest free savings casdh isa,s etc,etc

Not with British Gas (thieving b'stards), changing energy 'supplier' makes sense - never seen any point in changing banks - I pay no charges and get excellent service.

How many people read the terms and conditions or accept cookies when using any website ?  . They know everything about everyone.

when you get to £85,000 you might want to think again

why would you keep that much in cash deposits?

As everyone on hear is a winner & must have loads in the bank you do really need to add bank accounts everytime you pass the 85k as mentioned by Mr Poster as this is the limit protected. And be very careful to consider which bank owns any other bank in its group as the protection works on only 1 bank in the group eg HSBC owns First Direct.

cue everyone has and needs at least 6 accounts to shelter all their 85 grands,when one sufficed 30 mins ago

andy cap19 Mar 24 15:15Joined: 03 Aug 04 | Topic/replies: 507 | Blogger: andy cap's blog

How many people read the terms and conditions or accept cookies when using any website ?  . They know everything about everyone.



Correct and only a fool would think otherwise, the next wave of fraud is going to be the scary one, AI will crack any protection you think you've got in place whether you bet or don't

All about the ability of criminals to keep ahead of the security. I had my Email hacked recently and stupid messages sent to people in my contacts. The provider staff started by telling me that they would sort it in a few minutes but they had to freeze my Email account for 4 days while they battled with the hackers who were changing log in details within seconds of them being changed by the security. This proved that it was not my fault but theirs and they grudgingly admitted that they are being severely stretched at the moment as hackers were inside their systems. It was not a virus that I had picked up elsewhere. Regarding banks, it should be harder to hack an account that is only visited every 3 months or so or am I being naive?

Good anti virus keeps you safe unless stupid enough to click the links…..usually the good antivirus will warn you don’t touch it…..

@sage


" it should be harder to hack an account that is only visited every 3 months or so or am I being naive"

Not sure that makes any difference.  Hoping your bank account has some form of 2FA?

According to the Tories, I'm a member of a suspected extremist organisation, will a customer service droid at an online bookie shop me to MI5 when they see the donations on my bank statements?

Update regularly and change the password regularly…..