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The writing was on the wall that this horse had been laid out for this again,its been well backed over the last few days,everyone had the opportunity to fill their boots.
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Tidy sort leading the Horse back.
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Without integrity this sport is finished, if EVERY horse was campaigned like that nobody with a brain could ever have a bet.
It stinks |
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had a few £ ew on that also backed their protectterat in ryanair ew tomorrow
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Spot on Trendy. He was freely available at 10.0 most of today.
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Ran like a drain all year.
Money came for him, nearly fav and bolts in. You cannot tell me that has been running on merit since last years win |
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Had a small saver on him but surely if skelton is saying that he is not a winter horse and only comes to himself in the spring then the h'capper must now disregard any runs he has nxt season in the wintertime.
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Shove him up a 10LB and wait till next year to assess him after Chelt
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The trainer couldn't lay straight in bed so his horses are not likely to be straight either
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Don't come up very often at a Chelts handicap but I thought this was a certainty for the MP when they waited a year to preserve the mark after getting beat by GDC. Brought down at the second, still hurts!
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Hugh put it up -reasoning "LANGER DAN is a decidedly unoriginal selection as he bids to land back-to-back Coral Cup wins (Cheltenham 2.50), but based simply on what we know about him, there must be a good chance he’s going to run another big race.
His trainer Dan Skelton is adamant that it’s nature rather than nurture that causes him to be at his best in the spring, but the bottom line is that in each of the last three seasons he has come alive at this time of the year after some unpromising build-up efforts. Sixth in the Boodles Handicap Hurdle over 2m in 2000, he was unlucky to run into handicap blot Galopin Des Champs (who was running off a mark of just 142) in the Martin Pipe Handicap Hurdle the following year, pulling a long way clear of the remainder. He was sent off at 7-2 favourite to make amends in the same race in 2022, despite finishing last of six in his prep race, but was brought down at the second. However, he quickly gained compensation when winning the Grade 3 handicap hurdle at Aintree the following month. After three fruitless runs between November and January, he returned to Cheltenham to contest this race last year and duly bounced back to his best, finding plenty in the closing stages to win narrowly in a race where the front three pulled a long way clear. He’s had his usual early-season struggles this year, and it was a little disconcerting that he bled on one occasion, but as a result he’s back on the same mark as in this race last year. Skelton has stated that Langer Dan has been treated for stomach ulcers in recent weeks, having given a similar update on Greatwood Hurdle disappointment L’Eau Du Sud shortly before he bounced back with a big run in the Betfair Hurdle at Newbury. It would be a brave man to bet against Langer Dan returning to form here and he looks fairly priced with that in mind." And no I didn't -I'm not Mfordy |
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Why is anyone surprised? It's been said the horse was trained for this race. We know the price of potatoes with regard to horse racing. "All is fair in love, war, financial investment & gambling"! From The Sayings of Dr Slicer, available at all not very good bookshops, nowhere in the country.
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Hugh put it up -reasoning "LANGER DAN
He has also put up Skelton's hoss in the Pertempts tomorra. Has been out with the washing for a while but well-hndicapped if back to its best Oi Oi! |
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143 rating 66/1 beaten 31 Lengths
145 rating 40/1 beaten 27 Lengths 147 rating 40/1 Pulled up 147 rating 10/1 beaten 49 lengths Last 4 runs Bolts in off 141 doing cartwheels in an extremely competitive handicap. Even last year wins of 141 but got beat 35 Lengths the time before of 142. Way to win at Cheltenham with a 150-155 horse i guess. |
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Like most I expected the handbrake to be off. But it looked tight enough off the same mark, he's actually run to a much higher mark and probably would have still won if he had not been dropped at all this year.
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Thats right Slicer and i did have a saver on him but everyone and there mothers knew what they were doing and yet the H'capper seem not to.
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It has been going on for ever.
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if any of yas owned it would you want it to come here the target 12 14 pound higher ?
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It was the ulcers.
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The 6.0 £1k layer ir obviously laying off their bet I assume but donked away some crazy value. Was too slow to get the 28s when I saw it was still travelling ever so sweetly
Has progressed since last year I am guessing as was all out last year to be fair. Crushed them today. |
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we know what goes on and it was clear to see but you still need luck in running and plenty of these would have been laid out for this .
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But the Foyles can you trust any handicap all year, what if all trainers done that.
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i said it before on one of my thread this yard is the bollix at getting one ready for these handicap hurdles esp over 2m
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Anyone can get a 150-155 horse to a rating of 141, not hard to do.
But that was blatant cheating in my opinion. |
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no maeluk thats one of the reasons i dont back much in these races unless its certain trainers,what i have noticed with this yard is they often go off at decent prices ,leu du sud ,jay jay reily for example
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Perhaps like Hill House it can make its own cortisone.
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Was everyone moaning about Joseph's handicap winner yesterday too?
It's a big festival handicap. I think people need to get with the programme. Every handicap of the week has multiple entries whose recent form can be ignored. |
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Great shout Gentleman De Mee ante post , unlucky  |
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If a horse has ulcers and it runs poorly then why should it get dropped, the ulcers are supposed to be the reason for the poor run which is a reason prohibiting the horse running on its true merit which means the handicapper has not seen a horse perform poorly due to its ability regressing... ergo the horse shouldn't be dropped.
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If the sport wishes to attract more of an audience and "come racing" they deserve to know that the horse they back is running on it's merits and not being laid out for a race in 6 months time. Luckily for us who are racing nuts we know the goings on with certain stables but the not so initiated do not. That is cheating the public in my view.
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But without the handicapper being complicit it wouldn't happen, Tony Martin didn't get the same break as Skelton did he?
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thanks hayden crossbar but the ew money and it traded short enough !
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Half the fun of gambling is trying to work out who,s on the fiddle and who is not in these Handicaps.
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the public are cheated by the powers that be /establishment every day of the week but we are so used to it we dont notice it ! how many horses in that race were laid out and ran on their merits all season ? langer dan wernt the only one !
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Agreed Foyles.....its just a game and its those that play the game best win.....always been the same....not sure why the sudden suprise from some on here
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Poor old Langer Dan been ill all season bleeding,ulcers, lame etc tumbled down to its last winning hcap mark..however last 3 weeks hasfelt much better…13/2 2nd fav and…wins… -it's a miracle......!
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dan has a few in this with harry on the supposed 1st string and prob has a decnt chance ,i also like calico at a price for the yard back over hurdle after chasing and the good kid takes 3 pound off hopefull today is the day and a bit of luck in runni ng gonna back both .unexpected party and calico
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soz got the over hurdles bit wrong thinking of something else ,anyway backed em both ^^^^^
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a few in the next the 4.50 ^^^
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had le milos on my mind goes tommoz back over hurdles and smells like a plan to me .
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