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He still didn't win RSA after leopardstown
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eric, I think we fundamentally agree that bookmakers used to offer fair ante-post markets, but that was years ago. I used to specialise in trying to outguess the bookmakers with Cheltenham targets. Hors La Loi III 7/1 vs 9/2sp in the 1999 Supreme (Pipe had suggested a different target) and Captain Chris 2011 Arkle 16/1 vs 6/1sp (Hobbs said target was Sun All), spring to mind. Of course sometimes it went pear shape for instance Beau pulled out of Sun Alliance in favour of Hunt Chase at last minute (N Twiston-Davies), what a ****-up that was.
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yes i think so. After Hardy won the Champion Hurdle i got a good bet on him at 12/1 for the following year. Imagine getting that now for him?
Brought back memories i took on the whole forum re Captain Chris for the Arkle i had a very good price also i took a right slgging then silence after the race lol. Everyone thought he would be outpaced when in reality just about all races at Cheltenham are staying races even the shorter ones at breakneck pace the survivors come through strongly. |
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Lots of if-only’s had brilliant prices for Coneygree the Sun Alliance i thought he was a cert when they went Gold Cup. Big price for Iris Gift the Pertemps lol switched to the Stayers Hurdle. It’s what it’s all about getting prices and seeing great horses fulfill their potential.
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You wait the for the day with mr mullings as you also knowwhattheground will be , anyone taking mullings horses ante post doesn’t know the game he has played for years, you don’t bet mullings ante post it’s quite simple really and if you do good luck as you will need it
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Betfair killed antepost betting because it created the opportunity for very easy profit from insider trading. This is regulated in the city, but not in racing. Even the most stupid punters eventually realised ante-post markets were **** against them.
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You need to put this into context Willie is simply the best like difference playing for Alex F or Engelburt Humpie. you have to admire the man I do and he stays there as number 1. not him is the daft chelters executive diluting the races and quality + the bookmakers and you know as well as I do there is some **** spoken some giddy kippers and over reaction. I often think also is a bit like boxing now who is the champ who cares. we get revved up for Chelters and it lets you down we'll have ten days soon of mediocre dross. Good old days you sort of knew where horses were going sparked the flame. Whetehr you can get on is a separate matter.
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Bookies have destroyed anti-post betting in their crusade to kill off racing!
I recall in 1974 looking at the Champion Hurdle which looked (and was) a match between Comedy of Errors and Lanzarote. A week before the race it was beginning to look like a small field would turn up and I backed antepost Yenesie (decent Irish hurdler but not top class) at 200/1 each way at quarter the odds with WH I think. He ran just as I expected running on to get the third spot (SP 66/1 but only 2 places) without ever looking likely to get near the big two. I was as pleased as punch at what I believed was a clever bet, there is absolutely no chance today of getting that type of bet today. Next week's race already down to fifth the odds with outsiders generally 33/1. |
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The bookmaking industry needs a radical overhaul with little or no participation from the bookies operating in the present form ie outdated betting/gaming licence; these bookies are killing horseracing, and driving genuine horseracing punters and followers away from the game or into the grey unregulated bookies.
If necessary let's have a tote monopoly similar to that in Hong Kong where the proceeds/profits go to good courses, etc, not into bookies satchels, shareholders and stooges eg bookies pundits, etc. Give back horseracing and betting to punters and followers. |