owners and trainers and racing managersWho cant get on

The Racing Post are a shambles. They think they are the Guardian in investigations. Seems to me their sensationalist "headlines" Are just to get people to read and click their ads for betting ( which I block with Ublock Origin) A terrible website that has gone downhill from its previous years.

Don't read and they will soon stop.

Applies to most bookmakers now...don't forget the licensed bookies offer worst odds guaranteed and max liability of £5 too.  They shouldn't have licenses, they're some of the biggest criminals out there!

Bingo!

This is what happens when punters cant get on. Rant over from me

I would imagine that The Post will be sending the RP a big box of Havana Cuban Cigars for the free advertising.

The words "Black Market" are being used to demonise bookmakers who are unlicenced in the UK and fair enough when Racing loses out through reduced levy and media rights. However the fact is that there has always been these bookies since racing started, Hills et al all started out similarly.

The type of bookie the RP has engaged and reported on is a world away from what the BHA et al have been lobbying the Government and GC about e.g organised crime syndicates online in other countries etc, this is the first instance I am aware of that a small outfit has been thrust into the spotlight.

There are more out there and the basis of their business model relies on word of mouth and positive experiences, little surprise that relatively big bettors are finding their way into such arrangement if the feedback from other users has been positive. A lot has been said about The Post raking in deposits for the Festival and then disappearing, why would they if they have a growing business? Unlikely to be a huge sum of money and long term if they can sustain their model more lucrative.

For the BHA or GC to close such an operation would be an uphill struggle, even identifying individuals licenced in racing, the only people they could target. Whether or not The Post is run by criminals the bottom line is that they and others like them can succeed and provide a service many will be happy to use and likely to increase if the GC has it's way. Imo though anyone who feels the need would be far better of with an account with an oncourse bookie (s), plenty of whom would welcome their business and as it stands would not be subjected to ACs.

RP would be better off looking into the dodgy books they promote on their website

LOL longbridge, pray enlighten us how the BHA and GC target these individuals, how do you propose they get access to bank accounts or identify them?

As for the unlicenced bookies how many do you know of who have been put out of business by either organisation? Neither seem capable of even talking to each other, never mind co-operating?

I'd have thought it reasonably simple to do what the RP did - express interest until invited - create an "account", transfer the starting £500 and then you have all the evidence you need - names, bank account details etc?  If apparently thousands of punters can find these unlicensed bookies, you'd think a determined investigator would have little trouble?

As for the inability of the UKGC and BHA to do such a simple thing, then yes, if they have any successes in this area they are not shouting about them.

Bookmakers have been closing/restricting (on-line) accounts for the past 20+ years - where did they (and the racing Post) think that all of those customers would go?

It wasn't a problem. When on-line "bookmakers" were proactively driving/forcing winners to use the "Black Market".

All of a sudden now that losers are being pushed towards the "Black Market", they are interested and outraged?

They describe the "black market" as though it is evil and dangerous, dark and shady. My guess is it's not a patch on the dark and shady practices that (supposedly) regulated on-line bookmakers have been getting away with for the past 20+ years.

What goes around, comes around. Good for goose, good for gander, chickens home to roost, etc, etc.

No idea if this is legit:

https://twitter.com/AKBets87/status/1762077128881754280

the language used suggests it has not been written by a native English speaker I would say?

So if legit, where do we think it is being run out of?

The only thing the RP have achieved with this story is ensuring 1200 customers with this mob have their funds frozen inside the accounts, all in the name of sensationalist journalism. Nothing will change, and these chancers will just move on in a period of time and start up again

and most win allegedly.

I posted this on the other thread (thinking it was this one):

What do you fear most?

1) Dealing with an illegal Black Market bookmaker that isn't regulated.
2) Sending all your personal and banking information to a supposedly "regulated" bookmaker.

I can't see much difference personally - in terms of risk.

Both equally likely to end in tears. Licensed bookmakers are only regulated by an ineffective quango that has proven to be horribly out of it's depth for the past 20 years. They are hardly the FCA!. Licensed and regulated has meant nothing, they've done whatever they like and the customer has had no recourse.

At a guess (going by their customer service), there is every chance that once you upload your documents they will be processed in India or Manilla (or wherever is cheapest these days) by agency staff on minimum wage.

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Some more "lies" for you rico and note paid on and paid out, Foyles still waiting for his payment?

so tobymugs skinning bald fred with £350 bog bets and still being accomodated?

pmsl.

only person in britain that can have what he wants with baldfred...ydc ewe must be doing your bollixx.

Keep seething shafter!!!

If I did it would not be FAKE like your templates, you know it having lost every time, keep seething but pay Foyles!!!

What bet Quixall?