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By:
longbridge
When: 27 Feb 24 15:35
I can see how you can lose.  And lose at the paper stage before you get close enough to a bookie's rep to tell him anything.

They will say "yes, we have Mr Clacton's money.  We are only to happy to give it to him, but we are a regulated industry and to comply with our (insert your choice of AML, ATF, KYC) regulations set down by the UKGC, we require some paperwork first.  We have repeatedly asked Mr Clacton for that paperwork and he has consistently refused to provide it".
By:
dave1357
When: 27 Feb 24 15:37
and he replies

Our rules say that a gambling business can't ask you to prove your age and identity as a condition of withdrawing your money if they could have asked you at an earlier point. However, there may be occasions where a gambling business can only ask you for information at that time in order to fulfil legal obligations.

If a gambling business needs more information before you can withdraw your funds, for example, for anti-money laundering checks, then they should ask promptly and not only when you want to withdraw your funds.

Where a gambling business delays a request to withdraw funds due to insufficient ID, they may be in breach of Licence Condition 17 – Customer identity verification and may be subject to regulatory action.
By:
dave1357
When: 27 Feb 24 15:38
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/public-and-players/guide/age-and-id-verification
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By:
longbridge
When: 27 Feb 24 15:38
Does someone want to try it and see how it pans out?
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 15:43
I dont see what giving bookmakers documents proves. What is it they want to know. They asked you questions to allow you to open an account.
They didnt query anything when you deposited money from your card.
What else is there?
By:
saxon farm
When: 27 Feb 24 15:51
clacton, “the law is an ass”
You will not win in court!
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 15:56
Some of you give up too easily. Ive been told all that in other problems and ive proved them all wrong.
Anyway ive not got any document problems yet.
By:
dave1357
When: 27 Feb 24 16:35
it is absolutely clear from the gambling commission rules/guidance that they can't hold on to money unless there are exceptional circumstances. You would not lose a court case.
By:
duffy
When: 27 Feb 24 16:41
I would have thought that if you took them to court, the moment it was established that they did not ask for documents on deposit and only on withdraw it would be case closed in your favour....it would have to be, it just takes someone to do it and set that precedent.
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 16:50
I agree Duffy and Dave. I just dont see what documents would decide anything.
If I ever get into that position i'll do it. And i'll make sure the media know all about it. Its time we started fighting back against these bookmakers.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 27 Feb 24 17:55
fair play clacton
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Feb 24 18:16
clacton 27 Feb 24 16:50 
I agree Duffy and Dave. I just dont see what documents would decide anything.
If I ever get into that position i'll do it. And i'll make sure the media know all about it. Its time we started fighting back against these bookmakers.


1 month sabbatical from punting,every punter,they would be begging…..of course the fodder could never do that so I’m afraid it’s fodder to the slaughter…..
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 18:43
Yes Formoftheace ive often thought of that. Of course it will never happen.
I cant understand why bookmakers are trying all the time to get rid of their clients. Either by restrictions or the document nonsense.
Tried to have a £1 ew double last Saturday with Hills. They wouldnt take it. So they lost another punter.
Cant work it out. What are they scared of.
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 18:49
Kindred spirits Quixall and Jaywick, plenty to say but not a clue what they are howling about!!
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 18:58
Is that you Henderson
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 19:01
Yes, Willie, ex Glasgow Rangers winger!! HTH
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 19:04
If by saying Jaywick you mean me, what exactly have I said that you think is not right
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 19:10
Easier to deduce what you have said that is right, why wait until now to state WH refused you £1 ew for example?

Btw go to Court for your objection to T & Cs and GC guidelines and you will lose!! HTH
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 19:14
People like you have got no guts.
Whats wrong stating that Hills refused a poxy £2 bet.
Are you Hendersons bookmaker.
All you do is object to everything anyone has to say. FOYSC
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Feb 24 19:15
Clayton, the bookmaker is running scared petrified of the vomit inducing fines so to close an account and make them look good…..hoping Kim Jong (GC) are watching them being a good boy….

Leave horse racing and sports betting out of the shambles and get rid of all arcade material,which “tampered “ (imo)..
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 19:16
ROFL, now try another user name and try not to be so obvious?
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Feb 24 19:18
CagliariG 27 Feb 24 18:49 
Kindred spirits Quixall and Jaywick, plenty to say but not a clue what they are howling about!!

Einstein 2nd,do you honestly think if Kim Jong tries for a minimum stake and account closures the government and people in high places in the racing/breeding world will sit back and yawn……ffs
By:
clacton
When: 27 Feb 24 19:20

Feb 27, 2024 -- 7:16PM, CagliariG wrote:


ROFL, now try another user name and try not to be so obvious?


What does all this crap mean.

By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 19:23
Another case rested for you Quixall, no more benefit of any doubt, you are not only a failed punter but incapable of a meaningful debate about current issues!!

HTH
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Feb 24 19:25
Lol……yeah,the GC will be hush hush shortly regarding horse racing…..trust me…
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Feb 24 19:28
I reckon it will be hushed back to normal before Cheltenham…….
By:
hulk23
When: 27 Feb 24 19:28
fwiw the only time i've resorted to small claims threats was with ok corrals.  kept playing bertie big bananas saying "we have your money, it's ours now" etc.  bit of back and forward, gave up, letter before action.  phone call from a manager a few days later, we got your letter, sorry for the confusion, money will be in your a/c tomorrow.
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:24
When the account you are asking them to pay into is the same as the one you used to make deposits

why can't they accept that as irrefutable evidence that you are entitled to the money?
By:
hulk23
When: 27 Feb 24 20:26
why can't they accept that as irrefutable evidence that you are entitled to the money?

b'cos they're untrustworthy cnts ...
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 20:30
Are you all thick or just unaware?

Not that long ago when a scumbag was nicked simply using a stolen card to place bets, the lady who owned it reported the increase in her bank balance to the investigating officers who then arrested the low life who stole it and had a good run, albeit could not access the winnings.

Sounds like he might actually be posting on here, btw the Lady lived in Cheltenham, ironic or not?
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:34
I go into town 5 days a week and visit my favourite coffee shop. That's £3.80 a day 5 days a week 52

weeks a year. That's £988.00 per annum. Clearly I am a problem caffeine drinker. I wonder if the

proprietor of the establishment will request an affordability check!
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 20:36
You need to be locked up roggrain for your own safety paying for shyte that a coffee bean never shook hand with!!
By:
hulk23
When: 27 Feb 24 20:39
I wonder if the proprietor of the establishment will request an affordability check!

no, but because someone stole £20k from the company safe and spunked the lot on coffee the whole country have to prove they can afford £3.80 a day ...
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:41
I go to a proper coffee shop Gagliarig not one of the big commercial enterprises that serve something

that resembles dishwater!
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:42
Brilliant,Hulk!
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 20:45
ROFL rog, never would have guessed you would reply thus, 1 euro here for real coffee and 40 cents for your so called others on top, you are a genius btw My wife buys only Lavazza Rosso or Nero for 400 gms for less than your one cup!!!
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:49
Sorry Gagliarig you've lost me. Where do you live?
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 20:51
10k from Cagliari!!! East!!

HTH
By:
roggrain
When: 27 Feb 24 20:52
Ah, Gag. You lucky person. Bet the Sardines are a lot better than here also and cheaper!
By:
CagliariG
When: 27 Feb 24 20:54
Not so tbh rog, more in Cornwall and cheaper!!
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