Rochdale by election

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The outcome will be certain unless there's vote rigging! The Labour bloke can't be replaced and will still show on the ballot as Labour as it can't be changed now so in effect a vote for him is for an independent and this is on the assumption that he doesn't withdraw.

It's very unlikely Mr Ali will withdraw otherwise he'd have done so before he was suspended. Another Labour lost because of a lack of leadership and definitiveness.

Galloway was 3/1 earlier

Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory but was always going to happen.

Not sure about this one

I've read that the words Labour Party are still going to appear next to his name on the ballot paper. It's only if he wins that the whip will be withdrawn and he would have to sit as an independent.

So, with a 10k majority at the moment, won't there be enough Labour voters who will just put a cross next to the "Labour" candidate? And the rules on this one are paying out on which party will win the by election

You've summed it up well Reg, that's my understanding as well. Ballot can't be changed so if Labour candidate wins it counts as a Labour victory even though the whip will be suspended and he'll sit as an Independent. Issue is will Labour supporters vote for him in these circumstances, or stop at home.  I'd say Galloway deserves to be fav and should win. Labour will just figure they'll get if back in the GE in 8 months time.

Labour were backed to as low as 1.02 before this new situation broke, now 2.84.

Workers Party 1.64
Labour 2.86

They'll have to remove the H of C cat.

Workers Party 1.77
Labour 2.4

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Cesspool like Bradford and the capital

Mr Ali will benefit from telling the truth about Israels genocide against palestinians especially in this constituencey , hes a bet at 2.4 for me .

...... Keep up FFS.   

This is an all in full bank jobbie Labour or not Labour who cares anything above EVS is a gift.

Today...1.82 Workers Party.......2.52 Labour.

His fellow countrymen and women will probably vote for him. The locals will most unlikely, I'd think. Nevertheless, he'd probably be gone come the General Election in late 2024 or early 2025.

Drop them in the heart of Israel……with notes attached….

A muslim who doesn't trust the Israeli government. Who would have guessed such a thing, you'd think someone in the Labour selection team would have had a word with him to be careful. What a bunch of plonkers politicians (of all colours) are!!

Being a Politician does seem to be an Occupation that attracts mostly the very worst and on rare occasions the very best people

The problem lies with individual constituencies with regard to candidate selection and they don't always follow party policies.

Mr Ali would still be in a job if he had stuck to local politics, surely Rochdale has enough problems without trying to change the world.

surely the labour party official policy is to be anti-semetic and has been for many years

isleham 14 Feb 24 14:53 
surely the labour party official policy is to be anti-semetic and has been for many years






Utter nonsense.

well there seems plenty of it been reported over the years and its proven very few jewish people vote labour

jeremy corbyn being a prime example of it

I think unnofficial policy would be more apt.

corbyn is just an idiot. he is a big supporter of iran. amazing when you think what a brutal genocidal theocracy it is

but he is governed by his loathing of israel and the u.s. and west in general. sadly, this offensive dishonest garbage is not unusual among labour supporters

Jewish people USED to vote labour & several were communists. When labour get elected it will morph into the Islamic Party of the UK. 19 Muslim MPs at the moment & many big city Mayors. Starmer will not be able to control them. The antisemitic undercurrent along the lines of Ali will emerge further. The likes of this excrement can apologise but it doesn't mean they've changed their views. Time for the Jews to consider their future in the UK. It's not going to get better. 4 million Muslims in the UK against 260 thousand Jews, so who do you think the candidates want to appeal to. Guess what the religion is of EVERY SINGLE CRIMINAL landing on the south coast illegally.

slight overstatement

but thers little doubt many progressives in the party are massivley in denial about the religion of peace that supplies us with all the refugees we need. its so spectacularly intolerant and mono-cultural and the antithesis of what a labour voter and mp should support

why are almost all of them male? could it be the that women in these countries have no freedom and are in thrall to their families? nowhere in the world, from sweden to aus has escaped murderous attacks on innocents by islamo-loons. and africa now is alight with them, but you dont hear of it because it cant be blamed on the perfidious west that they all want to get to

An overstatement? Wait till after the election to judge.

sparrer will be along in a minute to explain it to us all

Can't wait.

Explain what exactly?

I find it astounding a foreign care worker can bring in their partner as a dependent, and eventually their children too. I understand the importance and necessity of allowing foreign care workers into the country. What i find astounding is the economic costs of this eg the partner and children eg housing, healthcare, school, etc. Also, this foreign care workers have tended to come mainly from India.

I think this policy has been exploited, and used as a backdoor into the UK by the unscrupulous agencies and care home providers and owners. These entities also withhold the passports of the care workers under contract to them usually at least two years. During this period the care worker will be working for less money than the average care worker not on contract but freelance.

A modern day slavery.

i was pulling your leg sparrer but as you are here can you explain how it is that so many in the labour party are in denial about the religion of pieces that it leads them to defend the indefensible and grows a seething hatred of israel among some(not all, or a majority) but plenty

i dont think its anti-semitic, its anti-west more than anything, from what ive heard from socialists i encounter

A lot of them just follow Corbyn of course but as for the rest it's difficult to say why. Just an assorted set of idiots really.

admirable candour

thats the one thing i dont like about the impending destruction of the tory party(it will never recover). too many of them like that. i know a woman who works closely with keith, (a-lm) and shes stark staring bonkers

Keith?

surely everyone calls keir keith?

one thing for sure, he will never be a patch on the original

Agreed but he seemed to be the right man from the job after that disastrous time with Corbyn but just lately he has made some very poor decisions. I never took to Blair too much but you cant fault a man who wins three elections but I was very much a Gordon Brown supporter.

yes. he was very good at ayr today

VWD Sparrow, voting for a stuttering idiot who sold your nations gold reserves for £1 an ounce, like following StewB and Quixalls tips!
FFS lol.

As was Robin Cook in his day.

TBF he always had one eye on Rico and Ikeaman!!

CagliariG 14 Feb 24 18:40 
VWD Sparrow, voting for a stuttering idiot who sold your nations gold reserves for £1 an ounce, like following StewB and Quixalls tips!
FFS lol.




As you know so much you can tell us what the money raised was used for?

Subsidised the failing economy which still failed with an IOU left when Labour left?

o was Brown's gold sell-off enlightened? Alan Beattie writing for the Financial Times in 2011 suggested that we should "let speculators go gambling on shiny metal. For most governments, in rich countries, holding gold remains a largely pointless activity. "

Yet gold is still viewed by many as a safe asset, even if you can't eat it or f*** it, and if you are running a country the fixed exchange rate that it imposes upon you restricts your policy making choices and stops you from employing one of your main resources, your people.

The UK's pound is a fiat currency and we use it "by agreement" as a means of exchange and a store and measure of value. By definition, it is not backed by a "commodity" such as gold, but you may no longer view gold as a commodity after reading this article. The agreement of us all to continue using the pound allows the functioning of the UK, or not as the case may be.

Included £250 K of my pension fund sparrow!!! HTH

In that particular case the money raised was used to reduce the national debt thus enabling reduced interest rates on future payments.

I am not political sparrow and if you believe any of the historical bull like that then may your god go with you!!

You know nothing about economics either and just listen to Tory propoganda.

Recently, a primary school teacher told me that his pupils believe that our currency, the pound, is still linked to gold, despite the fact that the gold standard ceased across the globe in 1971 along with Richard Nixon's mounting Vietnam war ambitions. It is also clear that many adults still think the pound is linked to gold – note the resistance to Gordon Brown's sell-off of 395 tonnes of the stuff between 1999 and 2002.

Sadly Sparrow you ignored my non Political statement which has never altered since 2006 on here and you label me with a Political bias?

Tells me you are a follower of false gods and promises never kept and so ingrained you have no freedom of individual thought!!

Could be wrong tbf but would take a huge stretch of fantasy to think otherwise given your form!!

So the selling of the gold statement you made was non political you expect to believe?  Behave yourself.

a primary school teacher told me that his pupils believe that our currency, the pound, is still linked to gold,



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They really asked this of kids who may still believe in the tooth fairy?

How can this by-election reconcile with gold? Plz enlighten. Thank-you.

now then children

tory propergander indeed. theres no such thing. the beeb, whence the majority in this dopey nation derive their news and opinions is relentlessly anti-tory

You're right impossible we have drifted too far on this thread which after all doesn't even belong on this forum.

Maybe my economics were wrong sparrow £1 million into a Suffolk Life SIP when the Son of the Manse stated commercial and Foreign property would be allowed for SIPs, only to do a U turn and never make the change?

So £250 K down the Swanee , luckily my MOD time counted as double for Home Office Pension and the £250 K invested in property in Estonia was covered by personal funds from the UK Government via Tory Pension rules e,g MOD time carrying double to Home Office. On top that generosity was the ability to run personal businesses whilst serving as a Police Officer and Haliburton donating £3.6 million on the sale of one.

Guess I am financially flummoxed in comparison to you and Labour IYO Sparrow?

Lots of Indians in my area have come to work in the care sector and are actually from the Kerala region of India where there is a large Christian population they seem to have re-populated the local Catholic churches which were on a downward spiral with the locals.

BTW George Galloway would have won Brighton if he had racked up and declared a Bisexual Election!!!

Italy might be corrupt but it it open corruption and nobody ever pretends otherwise, we vote on KNOWN entities or personal choice, not historic family tradition contrary to popular belief!!