You do have to get lucky in finding the right 'target' - and it's sometimes more difficult depending on vigilence at different casinos. For such, and many other reasons, it's barely worth doing it - but interesting non the less in a supposed 'random' game.

How easy would that be

Oisins

Which is why one clue is always place your bets after they have spun

My tip, if you do play blackjack, is tracking look it up if you don't know what that is.

Where do you suggest we get a time machine to go back to when auto-shufflers didn't exist?

I've now watched the very interesting item mentioned  by the op. What is notable to me is that even with his incredible skill, he still had some terrible losing runs. The skill included tracking, counting etc. At least he built up a bank. It would be a different story if he'd had the losing run at the start & lost his starting bank. Auto shuffling stops tracking as  mentioned by Dave. But it's the shuffling of the decks after every three hands that defeats counting. And it was counting that was the only way to win consistently.

the best time ever at bj was when ladbrokes casinos introduced an under/over side bet, think 13 was the push, might have been twelve. In random circumstances it was a shocking bet, but with a ten rich deck you had a huge edge.

Stu- no disrespect here that's madness if you believe it!! Why do you think they have diamond ribs and raised edges on every number IYO.

If there's a consistent bias (and there is sometimes in the dealer spins) it shows in the results they churn out (just like a fault in a wheel etc).

It doesn't always happen of course, and may never happen in some casinos, but in some it certainly did (when I used to be involved with it seriously).

There's no such thing as a perfect system or something that is always presenting an edge, but at times it does, that's all.

Oh so you're talking about a bent dealer, that's totally different

I'm sure with statistical analysis any design flaw causing a bias with a roulette table can be spotted. I'm also sure casino's can monitor for this and rectify. Do casinos rotate the wheels between tables from time-to-time? Nowadays the number-slots are designed to allow the ceramic (or ivory or plastic) balls (so no magnetism) to bounce out easily and that along with the croupier spinning the wheel clockwise and the ball anti-clockwise or visa-versa; I very much doubt the physics allow any manipulation of where the balls finishes up.

I'm very skeptical, but as there are computer systems than can video the wheel and predict the landing position with enough tolerance to beat the house edge, it isn't beyond belief that a croupier could certainly have the skill to spin the ball so that its decay was consistent ie it moved down on to the numbers at the same position. It also reasonable to believe that the wheel could be spun at a consistent speed. So although the ball bounces around, if it is still possible for a computer to predict with sufficient accuracy, then the human spinning the wheel and the ball consistently could set up a scenario for a bias.

A racing analogy is like laying all runners from a stable when you know there is some kind of consistent issue with that stable (horses underperforming) - you will lose some that go on to win still, but overall will come out on top as the bias underlies the results.

reiterayshun..

croupier spins the ball around the wheel...it probably does 6-10 full revolutions before it starts to drop..

ive scene the ball plop into 1 number and stay there..

ive seen the ball bounce around 5 times..

ive seen the ball bounce halfway across the wheel..

walofs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4069629.stm

A group of gamblers who won more than £1m at the Ritz Casino in London by using laser technology have been told by police they can keep their winnings.

The trio - a Hungarian woman and two Serbian men - were arrested in March but police have apparently decided that they did not break the law.

A laser scanner linked to a computer was allegedly used to gauge numbers likely to come up on the roulette wheel.

Computer in a shoe was used to beat roulette.
Speed of wheel and speed of ball swiftly calculated to narrow down probable area of ball landing.

yes till the ball is slowing then ewe will hear 'no more bets please'

I reckon about 15 years ago when I used to be up late studying the horses it had live roulette on after like 12 itv  I used to have it on in the background and after a few months I could predict the ball I won’t let cat out of the bag as there will be plenty doing same it’s boring and takes a lot of work but I got shut down

I will tell you one thing about blackjack as a dealer I could shuffle the cards in a way that would benefit the house
I never did but I could have done if I so wanted to.

This has nothing to do with card counting and is still down to pure luck but it does make me wonder all the same...

Not long after blackjack could first be played online, I briefly met someone who said they were logging onto a different blackjack site each day and playing for £10 a hand until they were £10 in front. Then they would stop for the day.

The rationale was that every time he had ever played blackjack in a casino he had always been at least 1 unit (betting to level stakes per hand) in front. Thus, his reasoning was that he would surely always be one unit up at one stage each time he played. By stopping at that one unit up (in his case £10) EVERY day he would make £3650 a year! He was at 42 days consecutive '£10 ups' when I met him and I would love to know how he ended up after one year.

There is no logic or maths to his idea, yet it does have a certain appeal if you are highly disciplined.

He also took the time to clear all the cookies off his PC every day. It is through cookies (NOT IP's addresses which are different every time you logon) that PC usage is tracked. This made sense as well, apart from how I was not sure if the gambling company keeps track of its cookies at their end. Hence, even if you delete all cookies, next time you logon a fresh set will be put on your PC. But the first thing the cookie might do is check back to its host, where the host machine then sees if a previous cookie has been placed on your PC. In other words, they would know you had been with them before whatever you do.

Anyway, the latter aside, the guy I met had made it to 42 days and £420 at that point.