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Those who argued against sending aid to Ukraine should be 1st in the queue
Betfair one day ashtrays the next…..thank goodness we have trident somewhere watching our backs
No deterrent = fkd….
Any fit person refusing should be locked up
No deterrent = fkd….
Any fit person refusing should be locked up
As ever, an excellent column from Peter Hitchens today
Wars mean death and wounds. They mean shortages, rationing, electricity blackouts, travel restrictions, busybodies interfering in every bit of life, and with much more power. Not to mention danger – missiles have astonishing ranges these days. What exactly would this one be for?
And on Ukraine...
Ukraine is, in fact, a corrupt and ill-governed state, riven with incompetence and waste, with little political freedom, weak media and no real opposition. In this, it is very like Russia, except that Russia has oil and gas.
It has other faults I won’t dwell on here. And the war which (in my view) the USA provoked in this region has been a disaster for the Ukrainian people. This is brought home in a dispatch this weekend in the Left-wing and pro-war New Statesman.
The distinguished Ukrainian novelist Andrey Kurkov has given a clearer and more truthful picture of the state of the country he plainly loves than I have seen from any Western reporter. Mr Kurkov is a Ukrainian patriot, loyal to his nation. And this causes him to be honest.
Among many other striking things, he notes ‘around 700,000 Ukrainians liable for military service have crossed the border since the war began on February 24, 2022. This is more than the number of Ukrainian soldiers at the front. These male refugees are not coming home any time soon.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13013261/PETER-HITCHENS-death-blackouts-brainless-march-war.html
Wars mean death and wounds. They mean shortages, rationing, electricity blackouts, travel restrictions, busybodies interfering in every bit of life, and with much more power. Not to mention danger – missiles have astonishing ranges these days. What exactly would this one be for?
And on Ukraine...
Ukraine is, in fact, a corrupt and ill-governed state, riven with incompetence and waste, with little political freedom, weak media and no real opposition. In this, it is very like Russia, except that Russia has oil and gas.
It has other faults I won’t dwell on here. And the war which (in my view) the USA provoked in this region has been a disaster for the Ukrainian people. This is brought home in a dispatch this weekend in the Left-wing and pro-war New Statesman.
The distinguished Ukrainian novelist Andrey Kurkov has given a clearer and more truthful picture of the state of the country he plainly loves than I have seen from any Western reporter. Mr Kurkov is a Ukrainian patriot, loyal to his nation. And this causes him to be honest.
Among many other striking things, he notes ‘around 700,000 Ukrainians liable for military service have crossed the border since the war began on February 24, 2022. This is more than the number of Ukrainian soldiers at the front. These male refugees are not coming home any time soon.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13013261/PETER-HITCHENS-death-blackouts-brainless-march-war.html
"The war which bankrupt Britain spends so much effort on keeping going has killed, maimed and disfigured unknown tens of thousands of young Ukrainian men (casualty figures are an official secret), devastated cities, and wrecked the Ukrainian economy.
I have never known what British interest this serves, and – perhaps even more important – I cannot see how Ukraine has benefited from it either.
Can nothing end this brainless march towards a new Great War?"
I have never known what British interest this serves, and – perhaps even more important – I cannot see how Ukraine has benefited from it either.
Can nothing end this brainless march towards a new Great War?"
Never get fed up listening to Hitchens George,along with Chris Parry (ex NATO commander)….
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Can we do it online, there are some fierce warriors on here ?
“Politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder.”
― the late Harry Patch, who had been the Oldest Surviving Veteran of the Trenches
― the late Harry Patch, who had been the Oldest Surviving Veteran of the Trenches
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already there fella
already there fella
3 usa soldiers killed,30 odd injured in drone attack on base in jordan,biden blaming iran, usa/uk to busy in red sea ,leaving open goal
dont worry chaps we have lots of fit young men fresh off the rubber boats eager to sign up and fight for their adopted country! fear not !
Good column. But I predicted this outcome and posted why the USA and their corrupt adminstration were so keen on this War happening in the first place. Of course, plenty of those calling me names at the time have gone very quiet on this.
I'm sure all the UK migrants will be queuing up to fight for the country they couldn't wait to get to...
We won't be fighting on the ground unless it's against a tin pot outfit like the Taliban[how did that go?]
The real war will be fought in the air and could well be the next, and final war fought via GPS
would take around 5 minutes for the Russians to wipe out our little rock.
Good news is, is that Putin doesn't want a war of mutual destruction - why would he?
The real war will be fought in the air and could well be the next, and final war fought via GPS
would take around 5 minutes for the Russians to wipe out our little rock.
Good news is, is that Putin doesn't want a war of mutual destruction - why would he?
Isn't it funny how much vitriol Trump received from all quarters, including from plenty of sausage jockeys on here when he was POTUS. Yet, the current corrupt, War mongering Adminstration have been given a bye by all the same people.
A dad's army is of no effing use
training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at.
training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at.
leif 28 Jan 24 19:37
A dad's army is of no effing use
training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at.Excited
Frontline fodder….
A dad's army is of no effing use
training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at.Excited
Frontline fodder….
All silly scaremongering rubbish,which tin pot leader wants to become an ashtray overnight ffs…..
I bet you sound like the hoooteee spokes person leif…..
I bet you sound like the hoooteee spokes person leif…..
would prefer to fight alongside the hooties [who have a pair] than some jumped up public school boy sending me over the top
Our Government and the incoming one could feck up a cup of coffee. So don't expect any action to bring this pointless War to an end anytime soon. They will just keep parroting the same line "Whatever it takes" and they mean it. Of course, it won't be their children being sent off to War.
Check your fancy nicker drawer, prolly got summit stronger in thar than hoootie catapult ekadtic.
With our multiculturally diverse population, volunteers to fight for a country they already despise will be in extremely short supply. In terms of our nuclear deterrent we will never have a leader willing to push the button even if we are being blown to pieces. Absolutely ludicrous to be poking the bear at every opportunity when ouir armed services are at their lowest ever. I notice France, Italy, Spain and Germany tale a backseat and kleep away from many of the worlds issues while the USA/UK stick their noses in at the drop of a hat.
We cant stop a few boats crossing from France on a daily basis, what chance of fighting a war. 
yep basil and it wont be our leaders sons /friends and relations going over the top so to speak. and at the end of it all they will be the khoonts who make millions out of it !
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training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at
In-running punters to be forced into national service?
training up the young uns who play computer games and are cold blooded,button pressing psycopaths is where it's at
In-running punters to be forced into national service?
tbf, the army probably pays more per hour that in-running horse punting these day 
They've all be given their script again by their globalist masters and they're all reading from it
https://twitter.com/wolsned/status/1751498292947464261
https://twitter.com/wolsned/status/1751498292947464261
Apparently when the 'war with Russia is coming' narrative was being pushed out in Scandanavia, everyone was rushing out to stock up on bog rolls, candles and batteries.
The Local Parish Council have had a meeting and we are going to sand bag the Village Hall and reinforce the Chippy roof.
Job sorted up here.
Job sorted up here.
The paddies are the biggest laughing stock of all, leo the puff and his sidekick calling out Russia and Israel you just couldn't make it up
Rushing out to stock up is the most pointless thing at this point
Everyone has the same idea and it's a case of look after myself fook the rest attitude, that worked from 1990 to now because we had the environment for it, not anymore, we need a team effort and at this point people seem to think get 2 months supplies and all is well...
Amateurs!
Everyone has the same idea and it's a case of look after myself fook the rest attitude, that worked from 1990 to now because we had the environment for it, not anymore, we need a team effort and at this point people seem to think get 2 months supplies and all is well...
Amateurs!
It was more fun when everyone was distracted with work and entertainment ffs
In-running punters to be forced into national service?
But they will only fight when they think their enemy is already dead
But they will only fight when they think their enemy is already dead
judging from this you might suppose ukraine had invaded russia. and kidnapped tens of thousands of children
peter hitchens is a lone voice. every serious kremlinologist and scholar of post-cold war russia has been warning of his messianic ambition. all of em. yards of books, many of which i have read and none of which anyone on this forum has. and if ukraine is corrupt, wtf is russia? and even if it was, what right does he have to invade and destroy? incredible how a brutal dictaor is taken at face value while the democratic states that have warned about him for 20 yuears are ignored
estonian pm in 2014; 'crimea is the beginning, we or ukraine itself will be next. putin does not see the difference between the ussr and russia'. he was told to shut it and accused of russophobia by the kremlin. we are now to believe the baltic states want war with russia, backed up by the west, which is remarkably reluctant to hand over arms to ukraine that could have ended the war long ago. maybe the nasty scandis just enjoy teasing, like a cat with a mouse. sweden and finland have resisited nato for 70 years- no longer. whys that then? they want to disrupt their spectacularly successful societies in their desire to crush russia? is that right?
putin has already smashed up chechnya syria and georgia. he has captured state power to further his own megalamania. anyone even mentioning war gets 15 years, all oppositon is dead, he creats division abroad via the st petersburg ira and denies access to the very channels he uses to spread his filth to his own people
yet the west is cast as a warmonger. evil sweden finland estonia latvia lithuania poland u.s. uk etc all part of a sinister conspiracy to wage war on russia
where is the evidence for this?
all i see is the opposite; 2013- 'it is my historic mission to unite russia with little russia(ukraine) and white russia(belarus)' 'kiev is the mother of russian cities'. 2014- 'ukraine is our land'
on and on he goes. now he says ukraine is full of nazis. laughable if it wasnt so serious. try telling anyone from eastern europe that. you will get a right-hander. they know better than the useful idiots who blame the west for everything and dont apply any critical faculties to its enemies
it is a penalty of living in a free society that the real bad people are free to spread lies and division they deny to their own
peter hitchens is a lone voice. every serious kremlinologist and scholar of post-cold war russia has been warning of his messianic ambition. all of em. yards of books, many of which i have read and none of which anyone on this forum has. and if ukraine is corrupt, wtf is russia? and even if it was, what right does he have to invade and destroy? incredible how a brutal dictaor is taken at face value while the democratic states that have warned about him for 20 yuears are ignored
estonian pm in 2014; 'crimea is the beginning, we or ukraine itself will be next. putin does not see the difference between the ussr and russia'. he was told to shut it and accused of russophobia by the kremlin. we are now to believe the baltic states want war with russia, backed up by the west, which is remarkably reluctant to hand over arms to ukraine that could have ended the war long ago. maybe the nasty scandis just enjoy teasing, like a cat with a mouse. sweden and finland have resisited nato for 70 years- no longer. whys that then? they want to disrupt their spectacularly successful societies in their desire to crush russia? is that right?
putin has already smashed up chechnya syria and georgia. he has captured state power to further his own megalamania. anyone even mentioning war gets 15 years, all oppositon is dead, he creats division abroad via the st petersburg ira and denies access to the very channels he uses to spread his filth to his own people
yet the west is cast as a warmonger. evil sweden finland estonia latvia lithuania poland u.s. uk etc all part of a sinister conspiracy to wage war on russia
where is the evidence for this?
all i see is the opposite; 2013- 'it is my historic mission to unite russia with little russia(ukraine) and white russia(belarus)' 'kiev is the mother of russian cities'. 2014- 'ukraine is our land'
on and on he goes. now he says ukraine is full of nazis. laughable if it wasnt so serious. try telling anyone from eastern europe that. you will get a right-hander. they know better than the useful idiots who blame the west for everything and dont apply any critical faculties to its enemies
it is a penalty of living in a free society that the real bad people are free to spread lies and division they deny to their own
brilliant summation fromtheguru
let him get on with it eh?
without aid ukraine-a giant state and rich in resources would be a vassal. if scotland decided to secede, and i hope not, would you accept the british army marching in and restoring the old order?
who wins?
let him get on with it eh?
without aid ukraine-a giant state and rich in resources would be a vassal. if scotland decided to secede, and i hope not, would you accept the british army marching in and restoring the old order?
who wins?
You referring to me ?
I’m referring to the white flash,but there will never be a white flash……
The yanks have a sub that could vaporise Spewtin and Co in minutes and he knows it…..
I’m referring to the white flash,but there will never be a white flash……
The yanks have a sub that could vaporise Spewtin and Co in minutes and he knows it…..
he also knows they wouldnt. the west cant deal with death and destruction. he doesnt givashit
russias prisons have been emptied. they are promised absolution if they do 6 months in ukraine. why would they not? a murderer doing life gets off and the people dont get to count the bodies
russias prisons have been emptied. they are promised absolution if they do 6 months in ukraine. why would they not? a murderer doing life gets off and the people dont get to count the bodies
The terracotta one gets back in they might listen to him….
no they about it, its putin, this would not have happened without him. those who decry the west are incredibly uncritical of a monstrous dictator
he wants nothing more than a trump president. another reason, if you need one to oppose it. sadly, bidet is a disaster also
he wants nothing more than a trump president. another reason, if you need one to oppose it. sadly, bidet is a disaster also
Trump thundered Syria with 76 cruise without any response from Spewtin and his toilet sidekick…..
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Cameron and Barack bottled it…..
Remember the dirty stuff they dropped and ignored warnings….then the orange one came in …
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Cameron and Barack bottled it…..
Remember the dirty stuff they dropped and ignored warnings….then the orange one came in …
George, why did you quote Harry Patch? A war hero he might have been but he seemed to miss the point that had politicians not declared war in 1939, most of Europe would be goose stepping and speaking German and without the USA it would probably have been the same whether or not war was declared?
Russia is as weak as a kitten in comparison to NATO, they have no troops or weapons to compare and the longer they are engaged in Ukraine the more depleted their forces will be which suits the West but there will be no need for a scenario you predict unless China got involved within Russia. Despite what most thought during the Cold War the Soviet Union were more afraid of the Chinese than the West and for some reason do not seem to realise China could be achieving what they feared by stealth rather than force.
Russia is as weak as a kitten in comparison to NATO, they have no troops or weapons to compare and the longer they are engaged in Ukraine the more depleted their forces will be which suits the West but there will be no need for a scenario you predict unless China got involved within Russia. Despite what most thought during the Cold War the Soviet Union were more afraid of the Chinese than the West and for some reason do not seem to realise China could be achieving what they feared by stealth rather than force.
has TRUMP offered up any words for THE 3 LOSERS KILLED AND 34 LOSERS INJURED IN THE ATTACK
thats what TRUMP called forces personal injured .killed in battle,
do at least try and keep up
do at least try and keep up
The Chief Of Staff calling his military losers
I take it you heard it coming from his mouth…..
I take it you heard it coming from his mouth…..
yes live on stage as he called out a viet war veteran a loser,was it conan powel or someone,trump prefers those who dont get caught as prisoners,killed or injured he thinks their loser,s
Trump cancelled a visit to a Military cemetery and stated it was filled with losers Quixall, maybe what 1st TP is referring to.
Mind you there’s a few Rodents on here I wouldn’t apologise …..
democrtat JOHN MCAIN a vietnam veteran was seriously injured shot down and taken prisoner in vietnam , trump called him a loser and preferred soldiers who didnt get taen prisoner etc
of course the best way to avoid getting caught,injured or killed is to what trump did and use his families money/contacts to avoid the draft for having an ingrown toenail or something 
Tip of iceberg
Defence ministry officials conspired with employees from a Ukrainian arms firm to embezzle almost $40m
Bring back covid
Defence ministry officials conspired with employees from a Ukrainian arms firm to embezzle almost $40m
Bring back covid
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