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Nico DB - Terrible over rated jockey

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By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 25 Jan 24 13:04
All just about above average for me ie Kneeko, Cobden and Townend.

They get the job done and ok given the ammo at their disposal but certainly not anything special like McCoy or Ruby.

Kind of think Jack Kennendy could still be top class but I dunno…you still get goofy rides now and then from him. But u put a gun to my head to pick one I’d go him.

Whatever happened to Blackmore? Seems to have fallen away since she kicked for home one circuit too early.
By:
MJK
When: 25 Jan 24 13:58
^ Hope you were on Aint That A Shame ...
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 25 Jan 24 16:59
Townend having a dream start to 2024, 2/3 today making his total 18/30 so far. Two at Cheltenham on Satuday both for the boss, Lossiemouth and Capodanno.
By:
top2rated
When: 25 Jan 24 17:08
Since 2008 , the winner is.....

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By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 25 Jan 24 17:33
The idiots will still knock him T2R.
By:
MJK
When: 25 Jan 24 19:49
Holy God, now we're going back 15 years. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
By:
top2rated
When: 26 Jan 24 08:31
^^^ Oh, OK.

So, especially for MJK who seems a bit miffed, here are the head-to-head figures since 2019 which is only 5 years and twenty-odd days...

And the winner is, once again...


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By:
acey deucy
When: 26 Jan 24 08:33
Good work buddy.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 26 Jan 24 09:20
Nico wins hands down on 5 years, BFAE 1.67 is excellent against Townend .87
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 09:38
So if you had a horse now you'd rather De Boinville rode it than Townend? Hilarious. BTW how many races does he have to choose his mount from multiple entries by his trainer compared to Townend?
By:
acey deucy
When: 26 Jan 24 09:49
Two very very good Jockeys but if my life depended on it probably just Townend imo.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 26 Jan 24 10:08
What sort of race is it?

Because if it’s a bumper then I’m getting Ryan Moore up all day over then lot.
By:
acey deucy
When: 26 Jan 24 10:11
3 Mile Chase Heavy ground and Townend on The Mullins Hotpot.Grin
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Jan 24 11:40
MJK is always miffed.  Well worth the blocker.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 11:46
MJK would prefer the stats whilst Nico is out injured, even when he changes the goalposts he scores an own goal.
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 11:56

Jan 26, 2024 -- 6:40AM, LoyalHoncho wrote:


MJK is always miffed.

By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 11:57
Not the first time you've had a go at me purely because I called you out previously on something. Even if you truly don't believe what you're saying yourself.
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 12:00

Jan 26, 2024 -- 6:46AM, CagliariG wrote:


MJK would prefer the stats whilst Nico is out injured, even when he changes the goalposts he scores an own goal.


What you're trying to compare is like comparing a goalscorer in the Premier league to one a couple of divisions down. Townend rides against far better jockeys every day and Irish racing is a higher level. You do see that don't you? So far two of my stalkers on the thread having g a go purely because it's me, just waiting on the other Stooge to appear.

By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Jan 24 12:11
Nice hat trick there for MJK.  No body answers him so he answers himself.  Laugh
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 12:12
Rarely comment on anything you post MJK as you are impossible to reason with, in the case of Nico and the class of jockeys V Townend it makes little difference without comparing the class of horses they ride. The stats are even more telling when that comparison is factored in to include e.g small fields in Ireland and odds on favs Townend rides?

You need to reel in your ego and accept the stats do not lie and you have no kudos to attract stalkers!! HTH
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Jan 24 12:16
Is that what he doing now?  Claiming he has has stalkers?
rotflmao.   Laugh
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 12:33
You're pretend blocker not working then? As I said your a sad man for holding a grudge so long. Just because you were called out. You might want to get dyno rod in to fix that blocker.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Jan 24 12:35
Are you foaming at the mouth?  Laugh
Blocked and he still rants.  The clear signs of madness.
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 12:35

Jan 26, 2024 -- 7:12AM, CagliariG wrote:


Rarely comment on anything you post MJK as you are impossible to reason with, in the case of Nico and the class of jockeys V Townend it makes little difference without comparing the class of horses they ride. The stats are even more telling when that comparison is factored in to include e.g small fields in Ireland and odds on favs Townend rides?You need to reel in your ego and accept the stats do not lie and you have no kudos to attract stalkers!! HTH


So a flat jockey in India who has better stats than Dettori or Moore is better than them? Did you ever consider maybe you just don't like admitting you're wrong instead of accusing someone else of being impossible?

By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 12:37

Jan 26, 2024 -- 7:35AM, LoyalHoncho wrote:


Are you foaming at the mouth?

By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 12:38
Still trying to figure out how I'm supposedly blocked by you yet you reply to my every post? How does that work? Surely you're not telling porkies again? Remember the last time, wouldn't like to see you go hiding again for a while.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 12:39
If I am wrong then so is everyone else who disagrees with you and apart from the OP who ran away we appear to be the majority who understand that the stats do not lie over 15 years and 5 years, the class of horse makes them even more valid as reverse the positions and Nico would be even further in front!! HTH
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Jan 24 12:39
A good thread ruined by a padded cell escapee.
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 14:02
^ still blocked? Only thing blocked is the blood flow to your brain it appears. Get to a vascular clinic ASAP Wink
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 14:04

Jan 26, 2024 -- 7:39AM, CagliariG wrote:


If I am wrong then so is everyone else who disagrees with you and apart from the OP who ran away we appear to be the majority who understand that the stats do not lie over 15 years and 5 years, the class of horse makes them even more valid as reverse the positions and Nico would be even further in front!! HTH


You're blindly spouting stats but how can they compare when they're from different Countries. As I asked is a jockey from India better than Dettori or Moore if he has better stats from a different Country? That's what your basically saying.

By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 14:11
Are you really such a low intellect that you fail to realise that you are the one who was making comparisons about jockeys from different countries MJK?
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 14:14
I'm using my eyes to compare, not stats though. You still haven't answered the question though?
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 14:18
There is no sensible question to answer, you keep moving the goalposts when in fact all we are saying is that Nico is a good jockey and far from useless as alleged by the pocket talkers!!
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 14:41
And you're using stats to say he's a better jockey than Townend to be fair. Is a striker in Malta better than Harry Kane because he has better stats? Or do we use ourceyes to know better? The vast majority of NH jockeys riding in the UK are very average imop, and I would put NDB in that grouping. Some are shockingly below that level. Now it maybe unfair to judge by comparing them to past jockeys but that's something that happens and can't be helped.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 14:51
At no point have I said one is better than the other MJK, you are proving you are a pocket talker who cannot accept defeat despite the stats of the posts proving you are in a minority of 2 with the OP who had the sense to hide.

Btw stats are only records that change the next time an event alters them which is why I never use them in punting, as for your opinion on jockeys I would wager that the majority could adapt to your job whatever it might be, quicker than you could learn the end with the tail is not the one to feed carrots.
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 15:24
How is it 'pocket talking' if I rarely bet the bloke? You're assumption that I know nothing about horses leads me to believe you think you know everything? Sounds like the usual 'what do you know about horses' when someone complains. Or a bitter ex jockey type. If you had your life savings and you had to put it on one of those jockeys in a two horse race, both horses equal, who would you put it on? Ps, why do you refer to the amount of posters on this thread? More stats, you seem to be obsessed with them. Do you think that makes you right? Take your time answering these questions if you can see them from your Ivory Tower looking down on this pleb.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 15:32
You really struggle to accept facts MJK, just told you I don't use stats but I cannot deny they are statements of fact. I am sure if statsman looks in he will confirm that I have gone against them for years as simply a record to be altered. If I had to use my life savings I would buy both horses and jockeys to ensure the correct result. HTH
By:
MJK
When: 26 Jan 24 15:45
Again you cant answer a straight question with a straight answer(or any question).Fair play, well leave it at that.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 15:51
You want a comparison of equal ability horses so how about Shishkin V Energumene ?

Who won out of Nico and Paul and who was the better on the day?
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Jan 24 16:01
What more can you ask for MJK,an actual event and not a hypothetical as you wanted me to speculate on, a hypothetical that is in fact reality and only two years ago to the week?
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