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I think Fitzy is Wrong about The Racing Bubble
I think Fitzy is Wrong about The Racing Bubble
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and should add, that despite being an individual most would categorise politically as 'left wing' I personally hate most of the PC agenda that has overtaken the country/world.
So, it (IMO) has nothing to do with being left wing. |
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That's partly what I am alluding to. The PC agenda is not really aligned with left wing/right wing, ie old style divide of labour and tory. This is more about political class vs the people, or so called educated vs the workers.
As many people who vote Labour would or should (or indeed are) against ACs as conservatives. The new style of conservatives and labour politicians feel the 'clever' people should be in charge, and the proles aren't capable of spending their own money. I do feel like there is more chance of something radical (and bad) happening in that space, because there would be very little appetite for objection in a potential labour gvnt, indeed within the HoC itself after the turnover. |
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He's on AGAIN going through us like a sledgehammer to the head.
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Totally agree of course about the 'controls' that both parties will try to use on us as gamblers.
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Cider are you Liz Truss by any chance.
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Do you laugh at Xmas cracker jokes by any chance ?
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Surely PC is what the Liberals have always been about. The reason why the other parties don't call it out is that the media are almost 100% pro PC and crucify any politician who questions it. There is a lot of nonsense about left and right. It depends on the issue. I believe in personal responsibility, free speech and low taxes but am totally opposed to a police state or a military dictatorship which many see as Right wing.
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Of course, these terms are obsolete in my view now. However it's not easy to contextualise the current situation in traditional language.
As I alluded to, there is a section of society now that believe the most important thing about you are variables that you can't change, ie variables determined at birth. Which goes back to the oppressed and the oppressors theory. But also, who is expressing a theory or opinion is more important than what that opinion is. It's evidenced on this thread, 'political' opponents attack the person expressing their position, rather than rationally taking on their arguments or position. They have therefore quite successfully framed anyone who holds a view that could be characterised as 'right wing' as evil. The infamous mini budget is a great example of this, as when it was first read out to parliament, the official Labour response was they pretty much agreed with all of it apart from the top income tax rate change. Now Truss and KK are characterised as mad people/devil incarnate/far right delete as appropriate. Even though they were proven correct that the OBR would be deliberately negative with their forecasting in order to prevent fiscal changes that they were ideologically opposed to. |
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Did this used to be a Racing thread?
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If there is a labour gvt, it will completely flip and the OBR will be aligning their 'predictions' to suit the changes that labour will be implementing.
It's a long time since we had a dominant Labour party in the HoC. Many will now be too young to remember what it's like. Part of me thinks that the country will get what it deserves, but these people are far more cynical and like many of new Labour's disastrous changes, they will be virtually impossible to reverse, even with a political mandate. |
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There are multiple elements of Racing that are political blackbarn. Both party and societal. But feel free to contribute if you determine that you have anything worthwhile to add to the thread.
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Cider. just one question, how many of your 15?ish contributions to this thread refer to the "multiple elements of Racing that are political"?
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I'm not counting, but I'm confident it is proportionately more than yours.
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Cider - Not sure what your definition of "proportionately" is, but I appear to be 2 out of 2 (2 out of three now
 ). You appear to be 2 out of 17ish. Never mind I will leave you to carry on with what appears to be nearly a "lone furrow". |
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I do know the definition of sad, and it would be counting posts on a betting forum that you are not interested in reading. You're doing exactly what you are accusing me of, but seemingly too dim to realise.
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Cameron osbourne,we need to cut spending to drive the economy,live within our means no borrowing.
Boris,we need to spend to drive the economy,we should build a bridge from Scotland to Ireland.more borrowing. Truss ,we need to give the rich massive tax cuts,then they will drive the economy as it trickle downs( even though,this is now proven not to work).more borrowing to give tax cuts. Rishi,we ve no idea how to drive the economy,let’s just blame migrants cos people will vote for that,plus clamp down on benefits to balance the books,but give out loads of contracts to our mates to generate employment. They ve pretty much tried every bullshot solution,hoping the idiots who believe them will vote for more. Today’s mail,tax cuts to drive a Lawson recovery,even though he lives in France and seems a bit unhinged. Basically paying some bed and breakfast hotels and a meagre pittance on the sick,is breaking the bank.but 120 million to Michelle moone and 37 billion on track and trace is value for money.and will super charge the economy. The worrying thing is,some tories actually believe this and are easily fooled by those who spout it knowing full well it’s a scam. Why is everyone against higher taxes, Every penny everyone earns,has made,was made using an infrastructure that was paid for by taxes,without this they wouldn’t be able make their money. Ryan Moore drives on roads to ascot,to win a grade one,he was educated to help him count his cash because taxes built schools. Without the tax funded system of the economy,no one could become a millionaire,yet they believe they ve earned their money cos they work hard or shrewd.they are,but only able to do this because the tax payers built the system that let them do this. Hence they should pay back some,Betfair want the premium charge,because they built the system that enabled their customers to make the money. Socialism is loved by the rich,to maintain their wealth,but fight tooth and nail to stop the poor having it. |
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Obviously you should only spend money you have. As a general rule, over the medium to long term, it's the only viable option.
The treasury expects to collect over 1000 billion in taxes over this fiscal year. More than enough, one would have thought. Kind of a no brainer, what they choose to spend and cut is what counts. |