Newc foto

i think im an expert at newc and eye cudnt split em.

of course it depends where you think the line is and your opinion of the angle.

ok, fort the slow mo looked clear so then fort there might be a stewards & stayed out

the angle is 100% right to left coming from far side..al do a pic wen replay appears.

Jan 17, 2024 -- 9:59AM, Wesdag wrote:

ok, fort the slow mo looked clear so then fort there might be a stewards & stayed out

Not a straight angle on the slo-mo at Newcastle.

ok ta

I got lucky, done a few £££s backing Reclaim Victory in the final furlong but got it all back and a bit more in the photo.

Not a straight angle on the slo-mo at Newcastle.

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crikey 'jamee'...

only been doing UK for 6 months and you have got all the photo angles covered...

can take folk years to get to that stage tbh...

impressive...

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that imo is how most would see it

cheers rico

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thats the true angle.

using that ,it would be a funny angle/line or eyes that made the 2nd look the winner
can you give us one ?

Jan 17, 2024 -- 10:06AM, HappyHibby wrote:

Not a straight angle on the slo-mo at Newcastle.--------------------------------------------------crikey 'jamee'...only been doing UK for 6 months and you have got all the photo angles covered...can take folk years to get to that stage tbh...impressive...

I do this full time, Hibby. That means I've manually traded all 307 races run at Newcastle since 27th July. It doesn't take 307 races to learn the photo angles.

That pic looks like far side won it then?

if you draw it with a crayon it can happen

it's very very impressive 'jamee'...

for someone only to be doing it for 6 months...

unbelievable some might say.

Jan 17, 2024 -- 10:17AM, HappyHibby wrote:

it's very very impressive 'jamee'...for someone only to be doing it for 6 months...unbelievable some might say.

Add it to your (long) list of crazy conspiracy theories.

stu 17 Jan 24 16:12 
That pic looks like far side won it then?

1st pic does.

i thought same didnt see race or result thought line and photo was proving outside horse won,so basically photo,s at n,castle favour those closest to rail

they dont favour anything..it favours if you know the angle the camera up in the box is coming from.

does that change from meet to meet ?
or is that a wind up
otherwise it favours nearside rail

that's what gave the game away 'jamee'...

someone new on here wouldn't just start attacking me for no reason (especially someone i had never even see before on here)...

the conspiracy theory stuff started alarm bells ringing...

schoolboy error that.

seen before.

1st time poster 17 Jan 24 16:23 
does that change from meet to meet ?
or is that a wind up
otherwise it favours nearside rail


been same for yrs..and yes i suppose it does.

gona cost myself money now

jamee1 17 Jan 24 16:04 
I got lucky, done a few £££s backing Reclaim Victory in the final furlong but got it all back and a bit more in the photo.


if you're betting in the last fur on atr blv ewe will need councelling jamee..Rampton is best.

Jan 17, 2024 -- 10:34AM, HappyHibby wrote:

that's what gave the game away 'jamee'...someone new on here wouldn't just start attacking me for no reason (especially someone i had never even see before on here)...the conspiracy theory stuff started alarm bells ringing...schoolboy error that.

Believe what you like if it makes you feel better. You are wrong.

Mirror mirror on the wall
Where's the effing line after all?

re. who's really in front, depends on gap between horses across the track width but from the ATR video I generally give the far side horse another 2 inches minimum  (and that's from  more than 6 months betting at Newcastle Hibby!)

excuse my ignorance
but if as seems if theres any advantage using pics provided its to near side,why would you be giving 2 inches to the far side ?,if anything you,d chance taking some off, wouldnt you ?

the far side is nearer the winning line than it appears on ATR imv.

seems so

sorry i,m missing something here
if those who no, think the far side is always  closer than you think and the photo example and line given on here ,looks like the far side might have won
HOW DID IT LOSE ?
ive not seen race / or result just assuming by a post earlier that near side won

right now no ,no 1 won nearside
so if as a n,castle photo guru says he gives 2 inches to far side, the far side wins
HOW DOES THAT HELP YOU IN PHOTO BETTING ?

I,M @ . com

photo betting is similar to betting in Stewards enqs - do it at your peril basically, as who knows how exactly a decision is made. For that reason, I'm out.

1st time poster 17 Jan 24 17:31 
sorry i,m missing something here
if those who no, think the far side is always  closer than you think and the photo example and line given on here ,looks like the far side might have won
HOW DID IT LOSE ?

cos if you look at the 2 fotos i uploaded..the 1st one if you draw a line from mirror to the lollipop (who most presume is the line) if looks like far side has won..but the actual line from the box 10yds up in the sky the angle is 100% a foot further right from the lollipop so as ewe says it favours this side..but its very tricky and can easily catch ewe out.

i only saw your 1st photo rico

but if it favours this side why would someone who thinks he no,s the angle/line at n,castle give far side 2 inches, surely if anything you,d take something off the far side
or i,m missing something really obvious ?

there are 2 pics above i uploaded..


swifty is bong eyed...

luckily i learned my lesson on photo betting nearly 50 yrs ago and havnt dabbled since
was at blackpool for week with lads went to dogs one night,did a tenner on one race thought the one had won easily  and it was ev in photo ,so had a tenner to get my money back, did 20 on the race ,local knowledge did for me, lesson learned

evens on the loser..

what price was the winner 1st time ?

1-5 ?

50 yrs hibby .cant remember they probably only chalked the one dog up to catch the mug money of likes of me

would have been similar to brough park back in the 90's wen i was a pro there..i stood on line and thort i was very good judge..but the main bookermaker also had a decent judge on the line..only time i got value was when he disagreed with my opinion.

probably best tenner i ever spent

probably right 1st time...

Evens the 'loser'...

no offers the 'winner'...

as you say tho...

lesson learned.

i can recall also in 90's at newcastle flat meeting..was close finish and i was watching the tv..ran outside and johhnny ridley was going evens..i had an even monkey and it lost by a neck..then was told he had a good judge in the stands on the line..lesson learnt again.

i backed a 10,s shot at thirsk about 20 yrs ,one of ryans MY PARIS was certain it had won could hd on inside lost photo, if it wasnt for blackpool i,d have hit that as well, went to board to see photo was stood next to kevin ryan he couldnt believe he,d lost as well,bought me a pint to cheer me up ,good days
thinking of the  horse half decent handicapper  could have been the  thirsk hunt cup

the name rings a bell tbh 1st time.

Alex Bird mentioned in his book that his run of winners in photo finishes ended when the bookmakers hired some top greyhound judges to also stand by the line.

1tp, forget rico's artwork, I'm watching on ATR TV, I use their still or do my own. I made the near side a winner by 4 inches so added on 2 inches to the far side so had the near side winning by 2 inches. It won by 2 inches.
If i didn't fear rico was on track peering through the judge's window and acting accordingly, I would've made a killing.

if as it seems people agree near side has advantage on tv pics,once youe established you think its won on the pics   ,why would you worry about the one on far side
what do you do if you think the far side has won ?

Mr.Hunt has a livestream in to the judge's box swifty...

common knowledge that tbh.

1tp, the FAR side is always further ahead then it appears imv. Although I wouldn't be certain the ATR camera position doesn't change from time to time, sometimes it is even more pronounced imv.

Hibby, it'll probably all come out in rico's memoirs that he's been the judge there for years!

wouldn't surprise me one bit swifty.

post pour foto bet swifty..tia.

post your foto bet swifty..tia.

post your foto bet swifty..tia.

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Not a fan of Gosforth Park.

obv bet it before slo mo?

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everyone to their own..but im struggling to see how anyone looking at the ATR still can decide this sides won 4".

think it was 3.5 pre atr slo-mo.
i was less certain after the slo-mo, to be honest it was my first bet of the day and don't play ATR as a rule, I had sighted my 'still' a bit after the line , was watching Ronnie O'Sullivan doc on Amazon

i was trying to stop so didnt notice the betting till winner was 1.3..a m8 then said it opened 3 ish..i know the angle very well but becos this games so hard now i rarely guess...i wasnt certain this side had won and if only had ATR i cudnt have bet this side as it doesnt look the winner.

I agree, it's harder to win nowadays so guessing/hunch is only at a certain price.

I think that fixed ATR camera may have moved slightly, do you have any photo finish pics from say 6 months back on file?

no..can only really go from the slo mo for betting as the ATR angle is prob 20 degrees..