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GEORGE.B
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He was in danger of giving himself a hernia there so vigorously was he pushing his mount out.

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By:
HappyHibby
When: 15 Jan 24 17:08
i saw it too GEORGE...

oh no i might win this...

powder puff token shake of the reigns follows.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Jan 24 17:16
Hibby, I think the racing parlance for that is 'third run for a mark'.

I'll have a look later to see if the stewards had him in for a R & R enq.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 15 Jan 24 17:18
i would suggest they were watching the 6 o'clock news tbh GEORGE...

it was a pitiful effort from WINN...

(who rides a fair bit for GOLDIE these days)...

just saying...

Laugh
By:
geoff m
When: 15 Jan 24 17:24
Seb Sanders was struggling for words on skysports when Matt Chapman "suggested" Winn was giving it a non jigger ride.
By:
racing6699
When: 15 Jan 24 17:29
If that doesnt attract the attention of the Stewards i dont know what does
By:
HappyHibby
When: 15 Jan 24 17:39
his card has been marked now...

i suspect GOLDIE might look elsewhere soon tbh.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 15 Jan 24 18:08
Tom Eaves the second is Mark.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 15 Jan 24 18:10
Permission was given for REBEL PATH (FR) to be mounted in the chute.

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BHA Stewards thought it was acceptable from Winn...

oh well.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 15 Jan 24 18:10
The form comments for most of his rides. Slowly away, not clear run, held up in rear, nearest at the finish.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 15 Jan 24 18:57
Big old ban !
By:
typhoon ginger
When: 15 Jan 24 19:14
Al Muqdad
49-4
40/1
T: D O'MearaJ: Mark Winn (3)
Dwelt, in touch in rear, kept on under a hand ride inside final furlong, not trouble leaders op 22/1
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Jan 24 19:36
It usually takes a while for the R & R enq reports to appear but they're saying on SSR that Winn got 18 days.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 15 Jan 24 19:38
18 days. So what. Give the horse a mark of 80 that might stop it.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Jan 24 19:46
He’ll regret this George,could be known as the smelly now….silly boy…
By:
MJK
When: 15 Jan 24 19:49
Can't comment on the race but did the trainer also get done? Or is it a case of the jockey taking all the blame and apparently taking it upon himself to do this?
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Jan 24 19:51
I’ve seen worse than that lately,Ellison rider at Newcastle…..motionless until all over,nowt said….
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Jan 24 20:29
oh dear, what have we here...

"however O’Meara himself expressed dissatisfaction with the ride given by Winn, explaining that he believed AL MUQDAD could and should have been ridden more vigorously in the home straight"

Report in full:

An enquiry was held into the running and riding of AL MUQDAD ridden by Mark Winn and trained by David O’Meara, which was restrained leaving the stalls and settled at the rear of the field where it travelled strongly before appearing to be very tenderly handled in the home straight until the final strides, to finish fourth beaten by 2 lengths. Winn and O’Meara’s representative were interviewed and shown recordings of the race and evidence was also taken from Mr O’Meara via telephone. The Veterinary Officer performed two post-race examinations of AL MUQDAD, which was selected for routine testing, and had nothing to report. Winn stated that his instructions were to drop the gelding out early to help ensure he settled as AL MUQDAD has been very keen on the gallops at home and to hunt away and keep it simple. Winn explained that he was satisfied with his early pitch down the inner at the rear of the field and the gelding had switched off with cover chasing an even pace. Winn indicated that approaching the home turn he had been squeezing AL MUQDAD along with his legs and when the leaders fanned very wide on straightening he obtained clear running. From this point Winn considered that AL MUQDAD had every opportunity to obtain its best possible placing as the gelding was giving maximum effort under his hands and heels riding and he did not feel it prudent to resort to the whip at any point. O’Meara’s representative confirmed the instructions and that the ride had accorded with them through the first half of the race, however O’Meara himself expressed dissatisfaction with the ride given by Winn, explaining that he believed AL MUQDAD could and should have been ridden more vigorously in the home straight. Winn was suspended for 18 days for failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to ensure that AL MUQDAD was given full opportunity to obtain the best possible placing, in that he had failed to demonstrate any sustained period of timely, real and substantial effort at a crucial stage of the race, when there was always clear opportunity for him to do so.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 15 Jan 24 20:37
So did Winn get his riding orders from the owner then?
By:
MJK
When: 15 Jan 24 20:43
As I thought.That seems to be the norm now. Take the blame if it goes wrong and you'll be looked after going forward.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Jan 24 20:45
It does seem to be the way that a trainer can point the finger at the jockey and by doing so exonerate himself of any blame.

There was the day at Lingfield, for example, when Rohaan's effort appeared delayed and Dave Evans said he wasn't happy with the ride, which meant Darragh Keenan took sole blame and a ban.
By:
chavman
When: 15 Jan 24 20:48
i remember mark winn being the rider of a few prolific winners a couple of seasons ago
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Jan 24 20:57
Quite a few end up in the hip pocket,spells the end imo….
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Jan 24 20:57
I feel no sympathy but witnessed far worse….
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 06:55
well done the stewards for giving WINN an 18 day ban imv...

but as a few on here are saying...

trainers seem to walk away from these things without any punishment at all...

if the trainer here is unhappy with the ride then i would presume he will not be giving WINN any more rides...

we will see.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 14:59
Bobby SHAFToe...

mmm...???
By:
stu
When: 16 Jan 24 15:02
Must be a collector's item, a jock getting actually penalised for lack of effort - seems to happen frequently every day to me.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 15:11
learnt from the master
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 15:24
who will win the next --- or?? ;)
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 15:24
Mulrennan - for those who need it spelt out :)
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 15:29
damnit! caught on the line - at least he was trying
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 15:33
looked more interested in how the Culhane horse was doing imv shooda.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 15:54
I saw him looking over his shoulder early and thought "what's that all about?"
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 15:59
if you watch the close up replay of the final few yards he was constantly looking to the right to see who was coming up the rail shooda...

pretty sure it was the Culhane horse he was looking out for...

i could be completely wrong tho.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 16:00
Is it Culhane owned you mean?
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 16 Jan 24 16:01
oh I see - rubalite
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 16:13
aye...

WinkWinkWink
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 16:36
Following the race, Mark Winn reported that BOBBY SHAFTOE, placed fifth, ran too free.

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aye ok then.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 16 Jan 24 17:15
18 day ban with the trainer making the comments that he did about the ride, but seemingly not news-worthy enough to make the RP home page.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 16 Jan 24 17:18
as i've said before GEORGE...

they all just play the 'racing is straight' game...

authorities...

media...

make sure the mug public aren't alienated.
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