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Been dead for some time now hibby and and lets face it the ordinary punter has no chance in running choose whatever channel they watch.
Hibby how much are you currently making from in-running a week average?
I have never been a fan of you in running punters....Get yer bets on before the Race like it used to be.
Why persevere with something you know is disadvantageous , not trying to be clever just curious 
Hayden, that's a bit like asking a similar question: why does a losing gambler continue to gamble?
Several possible reasons but the truth is they often do.
Several possible reasons but the truth is they often do.
i'm not going in to details swifty...
but things are progressively nosediving now...
ATR is a waste of time totally now...
RTV has it's moments...
but the downward trend will only increase from now on...
of that i am certain.
but things are progressively nosediving now...
ATR is a waste of time totally now...
RTV has it's moments...
but the downward trend will only increase from now on...
of that i am certain.
i agree sparrow...
the word i like to use is 'moribund' tbh.
the word i like to use is 'moribund' tbh.
when pyramid scheme runs out of people to buy/lay bricks, as regards in running punters replace BRICKS with MUGS
Never play IR myself but what I have never understood is surely if a level or as near possible playing field existed liquidity would shoot up and more profit for BF. Nobody seems to GAF.
What are we basing the 2 secs slower than normal on, didn't seem like it to me just then
Been a testing last 2 days with delays and long delays. Hopefully back to normal tomoz
Fair enough stu , we know Rico makes good dough long term out of it albeit not as much as previous years so i'm guessing it's because he has big bucks to play using a different strategy when the time lapse is less significant , but everyone else just seems to moan how difficult it is but continue to flog a dead horse.
I'm a total novice asking a question regarding in-running horse racing as no possible edge to consider getting involved it seems , never appealed because with a time advantage a little old woman in Kent apparently has more chance than i have.
I'm a total novice asking a question regarding in-running horse racing as no possible edge to consider getting involved it seems , never appealed because with a time advantage a little old woman in Kent apparently has more chance than i have.
things getting better tho...
8 secs yesterday...
4 secs today...
it will be back to 'red button days' tomorrow at this rate.
8 secs yesterday...
4 secs today...
it will be back to 'red button days' tomorrow at this rate.
jamee1 11 Jan 24 15:26
BFL about 2 secs slower than normal at Southall today.
I was wondering what that was based on
BFL about 2 secs slower than normal at Southall today.
I was wondering what that was based on
Hayden...
i'm guessing most folk are like me...
did well in the early days...
and live in hope those days will return...
deep down we know they won't...
but can't be bothered getting off our @r$es to do something different.
i'm guessing most folk are like me...
did well in the early days...
and live in hope those days will return...
deep down we know they won't...
but can't be bothered getting off our @r$es to do something different.
Its just as well Betfair are keeping us up to date with these slower pictures 
Oh hold on a minute!
Oh hold on a minute!
Fair enough Hibby , just curious.
Clearly a topic to stir the emotions
Clearly a topic to stir the emotions
duffy....... This one example hulk23 11 Jan 24 15:55
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
I can think back to the days on here when there was no inrunning at all! It just used to suspend a we watched our selections run.
I wouldn't mind it going back to that personally, as I've never really liked inrunning punting or trading.
When they first introduced inrunning it was a bit of a gimmick iirc, then some started to take it seriously of course. Then many followed, and finally some got too good at it, it seems.
I wouldn't mind it going back to that personally, as I've never really liked inrunning punting or trading.
When they first introduced inrunning it was a bit of a gimmick iirc, then some started to take it seriously of course. Then many followed, and finally some got too good at it, it seems.
Race reading generally still very doable in run but like I said earlier a trying couple of days. Very Excellent or Molly Mischief winning would have made all the difference to my bank balance but its another day tomorrow 
werbie 11 Jan 24 16:27
duffy....... This one example hulk23 11 Jan 24 15:55
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
I backed it at the 2 pole when he had 4 in front of it and got 6's
duffy....... This one example hulk23 11 Jan 24 15:55
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
I backed it at the 2 pole when he had 4 in front of it and got 6's
maybe if BF didn't have an 'exchange trading department' they wouldn't give a sh!t about what people were doing pre-race or in-running .. they'd just sit there and count their commission.
like what they are meant to do.
like what they are meant to do.
Hibby, if you are still making money then you just have to accept the halcyon days are over, if you are losing now and only see it going one way then what are you waiting for, get out of here.
That's when all the software started appearing stu and betfair later joined in as well as taking their share of the others with the PC. Some might say you reap what you sow.
duffy 11 Jan 24 16:37
werbie 11 Jan 24 16:27
duffy....... This one example hulk23 11 Jan 24 15:55
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
I backed it at the 2 pole when he had 4 in front of it and got 6's
Well done! blv?
werbie 11 Jan 24 16:27
duffy....... This one example hulk23 11 Jan 24 15:55
smokey malone no offers, had 4 in front of it
I backed it at the 2 pole when he had 4 in front of it and got 6's
Well done! blv?
werbie, wd, someone got the 9s though, that's the problem, win long term off BLV atr tracks, very doubtful.
Yes BLV, nothing to boast about
I was just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem any different to usual to me, whether it won or lost
I was just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem any different to usual to me, whether it won or lost
I backed it at the 2 pole
you backed it when you thought they were at the 2 pole but were actually just inside the 1 pole, when it still had 4 in front of it.
when you saw them just inside the 1 pole they were crossing the line. and it was no offers.
you backed it when you thought they were at the 2 pole but were actually just inside the 1 pole, when it still had 4 in front of it.
when you saw them just inside the 1 pole they were crossing the line. and it was no offers.
Good advice Swifty because anyone who has tried to profit from in running without drone access or being on course has been up against it for years, akin to betting against a bookie who already knows the result, betting against the above.
Amazingly some of the IR players on here take the pis$ out of anyone who bets pre-race when in fact they are at a bigger disadvantage.
Amazingly some of the IR players on here take the pis$ out of anyone who bets pre-race when in fact they are at a bigger disadvantage.
duffy 11 Jan 24 16:42
Yes BLV, nothing to boast aboutGrin I was just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem any different to usual to me, whether it won or lost
I see what you're saying. If things had gone my way today I probs would'nt have noticed so much.
But yesterday was a shocker. Jocks had already weighed in before they passed the winning line imo
Yes BLV, nothing to boast aboutGrin I was just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem any different to usual to me, whether it won or lost
I see what you're saying. If things had gone my way today I probs would'nt have noticed so much.
But yesterday was a shocker. Jocks had already weighed in before they passed the winning line imo
always remember nevo getting asked 20/25 yrs ago or so why he spends more time in studio than on course,
he said the early days of betafair,getting the rattler with THE SHOE and co to southwell,wolves relieving mugs sat at home of their hard earned are over,
he said the early days of betafair,getting the rattler with THE SHOE and co to southwell,wolves relieving mugs sat at home of their hard earned are over,
That's when all the software started appearing stu and betfair later joined in as well as taking their share of the others with the PC. Some might say you reap what you sow.
Guess so sparrow, though of course we're working in the dark guessing about who operates and wins in inplay, but fair guess as above yes.
There is never an even playing field, even pre-race, of course, but at least in pre race you get plenty time to make your decisions unlike the crazyness of inrunning.
Guess so sparrow, though of course we're working in the dark guessing about who operates and wins in inplay, but fair guess as above yes.
There is never an even playing field, even pre-race, of course, but at least in pre race you get plenty time to make your decisions unlike the crazyness of inrunning.
still not answered why.
and, perhaps more pertinently, who ??
and, perhaps more pertinently, who ??
Not my idea of playing the game either stu but each to their own I suppose.
swiftynifty Joined: 16 Jan 07
Replies: 925011 Jan 24 16:42
werbie, wd, someone got the 9s though, that's the problem, win long term off BLV atr tracks, very doubtful.
Swifty, it wasn't me that got the 6s, I was all over the place in that race
Replies: 925011 Jan 24 16:42
werbie, wd, someone got the 9s though, that's the problem, win long term off BLV atr tracks, very doubtful.
Swifty, it wasn't me that got the 6s, I was all over the place in that race
werbie, I realised that after i posted!
I was watching the winner in that race too but as hulk said 6 became 2 in the space of a second or two at the 2 furlong pole!
I'd guess 99% of winning IR bets are placed using software of sorts (1-click, offsets, trades etc), be interesting to know what % is purely from automation via GPS. If the RTV tracks get it too then that really could signal the end for the sit-at-home punter.
I was watching the winner in that race too but as hulk said 6 became 2 in the space of a second or two at the 2 furlong pole!
I'd guess 99% of winning IR bets are placed using software of sorts (1-click, offsets, trades etc), be interesting to know what % is purely from automation via GPS. If the RTV tracks get it too then that really could signal the end for the sit-at-home punter.
always remember that ex commentator who packed in to go pro betting in running,telling people via a double page spread in the sun,that due to him beem an ex comm he was one of the best in running judges in the game
he didnt tell people he was sat in a shop in leeds getting a feed 6 secs faster than others stealing money of the mugs,
always wore a baseball cap ,can anyone remember his name ?, is he still one of the best,
he didnt tell people he was sat in a shop in leeds getting a feed 6 secs faster than others stealing money of the mugs,
always wore a baseball cap ,can anyone remember his name ?, is he still one of the best,
swiftynifty Joined: 16 Jan 07
Replies: 925111 Jan 24 16:37
Hibby, if you are still making money then you just have to accept the halcyon days are over, if you are losing now and only see it going one way then what are you waiting for, get out of here.
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i totally agree with you swifty.
Replies: 925111 Jan 24 16:37
Hibby, if you are still making money then you just have to accept the halcyon days are over, if you are losing now and only see it going one way then what are you waiting for, get out of here.
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i totally agree with you swifty.
hulk23
maybe if BF didn't have an 'exchange trading department' they wouldn't give a sh!t about what people were doing pre-race or in-running .. they'd just sit there and count their commission.
like what they are meant to do.
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i'm surprised it only appears to be me and you who are even the slightest bit interested in that department tbh hulk...
if it's a commission only process why do they need a trading department ?
maybe if BF didn't have an 'exchange trading department' they wouldn't give a sh!t about what people were doing pre-race or in-running .. they'd just sit there and count their commission.
like what they are meant to do.
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i'm surprised it only appears to be me and you who are even the slightest bit interested in that department tbh hulk...
if it's a commission only process why do they need a trading department ?
CagliariG 11 Jan 24 16:46
Good advice Swifty because anyone who has tried to profit from in running without drone access or being on course has been up against it for years, akin to betting against a bookie who already knows the result, betting against the above.
Amazingly some of the IR players on here take the pis$ out of anyone who bets pre-race when in fact they are at a bigger disadvantage.
Blah! Blah! Blah! This might apply to some but not to all
Good advice Swifty because anyone who has tried to profit from in running without drone access or being on course has been up against it for years, akin to betting against a bookie who already knows the result, betting against the above.
Amazingly some of the IR players on here take the pis$ out of anyone who bets pre-race when in fact they are at a bigger disadvantage.
Blah! Blah! Blah! This might apply to some but not to all
Stick to turkeys teeth or AOAW Hibby, more convincing tbh.
if it's a commission only process why do they need a trading department ?
I think we all know the answer to that one, hibby.
I think we all know the answer to that one, hibby.
i think SOME of us do tbh sparrow...
still some wet behind the ear types on here imv.
still some wet behind the ear types on here imv.
What I've thought for a long time after being an I/R backer for 20 years and only using LV, but in the early days red button and when it was quicker RTV, and it would be just the same if you are a layer, although liquidity is less, what some people confuse with changes in the delay is in fact their own confidence levels which often cause the player to second guess themselves and ultimately pulling the trigger too late, they then don't get matched or get a price too low and blame it on the delay.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
duffy, don't disagree with any of that, confidence (winning/losing runs etc) a big factor, when as we know only the early bird catches the worm. the question is there's only so 'early' you can go before they're back in the stalls!
What I'm really getting at, and I'm a £5, £10, £15 backer is regardless of the state of play at the moment, I don't blame that for whether I win or lose, it's purely down to me reading things right or wrong, I believe it's still good enough for me and admittedly I'm certainly not doing as well as I used to and you could say that proves the argument against me and I just don't realize it because I'm a dope, which is a live possibility, but I just thing it's down to my own play.
everyone should just remember...
a hell of a lot can happen between LIVE and 1.8secs (which is actually the fastest MOST of us can get an in running bet on)...
that should never be forgotten.
a hell of a lot can happen between LIVE and 1.8secs (which is actually the fastest MOST of us can get an in running bet on)...
that should never be forgotten.
Live to 1.8secs AFTER Live is a hell of a long time imv.
What I've thought for a long time after being an I/R backer for 20 years and only using LV, but in the early days red button and when it was quicker RTV, and it would be just the same if you are a layer, although liquidity is less, what some people confuse with changes in the delay is in fact their own confidence levels which often cause the player to second guess themselves and ultimately pulling the trigger too late, they then don't get matched or get a price too low and blame it on the delay.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
Vast majority of my bets submitted 1st half of the race any distance using blv. Been to an exchange shop probably 3-4 times for quicker pics and won nowt.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
Vast majority of my bets submitted 1st half of the race any distance using blv. Been to an exchange shop probably 3-4 times for quicker pics and won nowt.
duffy 11 Jan 24 17:11
What I've thought for a long time after being an I/R backer for 20 years and only using LV, but in the early days red button and when it was quicker RTV, and it would be just the same if you are a layer, although liquidity is less, what some people confuse with changes in the delay is in fact their own confidence levels which often cause the player to second guess themselves and ultimately pulling the trigger too late, they then don't get matched or get a price too low and blame it on the delay.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
What I've thought for a long time after being an I/R backer for 20 years and only using LV, but in the early days red button and when it was quicker RTV, and it would be just the same if you are a layer, although liquidity is less, what some people confuse with changes in the delay is in fact their own confidence levels which often cause the player to second guess themselves and ultimately pulling the trigger too late, they then don't get matched or get a price too low and blame it on the delay.
When you are an I/R player there is no room for hesitancy, if you are confident you tend to get on earlier which will get you a better price, if not you will delay which leads to everything drying up. I've often wondered that I'd like to see when it is exactly that I place bets in a race during times of confident play against less confident times and it would be much earlier during the former.
jussed scene this fred but funnily enuff i was comparing drone/blv 2:05 and it was 100% normal speed.
Not one person here has mentioned TPD in relation to in-running punting. Almost as if it did not exist
Go And Do Your Homwework Lads!
Go And Do Your Homwework Lads!
WHAT'S THIS???????
Cardinal's arrived, we're all stupid 'ere.
It's GPS you turnip.
Cardinal's arrived, we're all stupid 'ere.
It's GPS you turnip.
scotty i menchum the gps/drone activity moast daze.
my mate 'jamee' said the other day that GPS isn't on RTV tracks...
he'll be along any second to confirm that.
he'll be along any second to confirm that.
it isn't yet but once it is we can turn off the lights and all go home.
so Mr.HUnt is wrong when he says the GPS boys must have had the winner at 1.6 in the photo swifty ?
coz surely nobody else could be betting it in the photo if you couldn't actually see the horse ?
coz surely nobody else could be betting it in the photo if you couldn't actually see the horse ?
Jan 11, 2024 -- 6:31PM, HappyHibby wrote:
my mate 'jamee' said the other day that GPS isn't on RTV tracks...he'll be along any second to confirm that.
Correct. Or, if they are, there're not widely available like TPD.
This was proved a few days ago at Naas in the heavy fog, when the clear leader and eventual winner was still available at 16s 2-out, then dropped straight into 1.2 as soon as runners came into view of the crowd.
Jan 11, 2024 -- 6:36PM, HappyHibby wrote:
so Mr.HUnt is wrong when he says the GPS boys must have had the winner at 1.6 in the photo swifty ?coz surely nobody else could be betting it in the photo if you couldn't actually see the horse ?
GPS is accurate to about half a length. It's not even useful in the final furlong, let alone to predict the outcome of a photo.
Drone boys and tracksiders could see the finish.
The GPS isn't accurate enough in a 6 inch winning distance
interesting stuff lads...
i have no idea whatthe whole GPS stuff can do tbh...
Mr.Hunt seemed to be suggesting the GPS boys were the reason the winner was 1.6 in the photo but 'jamee' seems to think it was drone boys/tracksiders..
as i'm none of the above i can't really comment tbh.
i have no idea whatthe whole GPS stuff can do tbh...
Mr.Hunt seemed to be suggesting the GPS boys were the reason the winner was 1.6 in the photo but 'jamee' seems to think it was drone boys/tracksiders..
as i'm none of the above i can't really comment tbh.
Rico-Dangleflaps
was being sarky..could only be formed from the gps imo.
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we appear to have a difference in opinion Jeffrey.
was being sarky..could only be formed from the gps imo.
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we appear to have a difference in opinion Jeffrey.
as i'm none of the above i can't really comment tbh.
doesn't normally stop you
doesn't normally stop you
Jan 11, 2024 -- 6:15PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:
jussed scene this fred but funnily enuff i was comparing drone/blv 2:05 and it was 100% normal speed.
no it wasnt
Jan 11, 2024 -- 6:24PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:
Not one person here has mentioned TPD in relation to in-running punting.
Jan 11, 2024 -- 3:39PM, swiftynifty wrote:
Hibby how much are you currently making from in-running a week average?
-304 a week
sparrow Joined: 20 Jul 02
Replies: 5331911 Jan 24 15:39
Been dead for some time now hibby and and lets face it the ordinary punter has no chance in running choose whatever channel they watch
absolute bollox from birdbrain. you must be very ordinary indeed. rtv is as close to live as can be realistically expected, and is why most of the track players have given it up. the garbage channel is quite the opposite, and well-named, but you luv it
the other wanchors who say dont bother i/r are just flat-out stupid. i do both and if one ive backed goes down at 100mph i will bail, likewise if it goes off too fast, or is reluctant to line up, a la shiskin. if you do/dont like something youve backed why give up the option to do something, rather than just wave your arms? ive done it zillions of times and why anyone would like to deny themselves and others that facility i cannot fathom, unless you are all as fick as you appear. quite something if so
there was a thing in ireland last week that was never going to jump, and i laid it, and got paid, even though it should have been withdrawn. no thanks say you mugs, not for me, or you
or youve backed something to win a chunk and its neck and neck with some other nag and you just sit there and impotently scream at the screen
bollox
Replies: 5331911 Jan 24 15:39
Been dead for some time now hibby and and lets face it the ordinary punter has no chance in running choose whatever channel they watch
absolute bollox from birdbrain. you must be very ordinary indeed. rtv is as close to live as can be realistically expected, and is why most of the track players have given it up. the garbage channel is quite the opposite, and well-named, but you luv it
the other wanchors who say dont bother i/r are just flat-out stupid. i do both and if one ive backed goes down at 100mph i will bail, likewise if it goes off too fast, or is reluctant to line up, a la shiskin. if you do/dont like something youve backed why give up the option to do something, rather than just wave your arms? ive done it zillions of times and why anyone would like to deny themselves and others that facility i cannot fathom, unless you are all as fick as you appear. quite something if so
there was a thing in ireland last week that was never going to jump, and i laid it, and got paid, even though it should have been withdrawn. no thanks say you mugs, not for me, or you
or youve backed something to win a chunk and its neck and neck with some other nag and you just sit there and impotently scream at the screen
bollox
That's a different debate though mitolo , i stated earlier i've no interest playing in-running but always interested in laying off if a big bet multi running on , last November i laid a horse to lose £12k but pre-race that was because i'd a bad e/way acca running on the win part and obviously hoped the lay was a losing bet.
To me laying off in-play vs backing or laying a horse by watching pictures are two completely debates.
To me laying off in-play vs backing or laying a horse by watching pictures are two completely debates.
feeble non-response
'no chance i/r whatever the channel' simply isnt true and you are being obtuse. probably in fear of being made to look foolish. or it might be you struggle writing more than a few words at a time
'no chance i/r whatever the channel' simply isnt true and you are being obtuse. probably in fear of being made to look foolish. or it might be you struggle writing more than a few words at a time
no they fecking aint
the facility is there to do whatever you like and those that say ' i dont do it' are just being daft. its another option and why not keep it open?
if you look at the race and its clear theyve gone off to quick, why wouldnt you at least think about taking advantage? you dont have to, but its nice to have it. only on rtv of course
the facility is there to do whatever you like and those that say ' i dont do it' are just being daft. its another option and why not keep it open?
if you look at the race and its clear theyve gone off to quick, why wouldnt you at least think about taking advantage? you dont have to, but its nice to have it. only on rtv of course
if you look at the race and its clear theyve gone off to quick, why wouldnt you at least think about taking advantage?
because someones seen it going off too quick before you saw it going off too quick and all the values gone ?
because someones seen it going off too quick before you saw it going off too quick and all the values gone ?
mitolo 11 Jan 24 20:08
feeble non-response
'no chance i/r whatever the channel' simply isnt true and you are being obtuse. probably in fear of being made to look foolish. or it might be you struggle writing more than a few words at a time
Unlike you I don't have to go all round the houses to make a simple point. But if you are telling me that you make profits in running then I don't believe it.
feeble non-response
'no chance i/r whatever the channel' simply isnt true and you are being obtuse. probably in fear of being made to look foolish. or it might be you struggle writing more than a few words at a time
Unlike you I don't have to go all round the houses to make a simple point. But if you are telling me that you make profits in running then I don't believe it.
oh dear
sulk-what about the rest of it? dont you want the option. and rtv is hardly behind at all. and you arent subject to vagaries of weather that ground the drone. and you can still lay fallers if you try that sort of thing, although not often, but it demonstrates its eminently usable as long as you aint betting big or late
sparrer-i wasnt talking about me, you are making it so. it was a general point about being able to play i/r with a very small time delay thats impossible on the garbage channel, making your comment look daft. thats all. going round the houses is what you used to do
you said i made a profit i/r. not me. and then accusing me of fibbing about something you said
you have more chance of wnning i/r than pre-race because the markets are bang-on, and then subjective. but most of the money has gone, so its small-scale nowadays, unfortunately
sulk-what about the rest of it? dont you want the option. and rtv is hardly behind at all. and you arent subject to vagaries of weather that ground the drone. and you can still lay fallers if you try that sort of thing, although not often, but it demonstrates its eminently usable as long as you aint betting big or late
sparrer-i wasnt talking about me, you are making it so. it was a general point about being able to play i/r with a very small time delay thats impossible on the garbage channel, making your comment look daft. thats all. going round the houses is what you used to do
you said i made a profit i/r. not me. and then accusing me of fibbing about something you said
you have more chance of wnning i/r than pre-race because the markets are bang-on, and then subjective. but most of the money has gone, so its small-scale nowadays, unfortunately
if the pre-race markets are bang-on why are all those 'gambles' i put up falling out the back of the tv ??
The point I made was that in the long run you have no chance in running on RTV but if I'm wrong then so be it and well done to anyone that can.
stop being selective about what you answer
no idea. you putting them up is proof of nothing other than you are a crashing bore
no idea. you putting them up is proof of nothing other than you are a crashing bore
Burrows Park 6.2 > 5.2
(Ring price: 5/1 9/2 4/1 9/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2) SP 7/2
led, ridden and pressed 4 out, headed home turn, weakened thereafter
beaten 33.75 lengths
can you point out what's bang-on about that
(Ring price: 5/1 9/2 4/1 9/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2) SP 7/2
led, ridden and pressed 4 out, headed home turn, weakened thereafter
beaten 33.75 lengths
can you point out what's bang-on about that
well i know several that do. but they never bet on atr tracks, with the odd exception, like the shiskin incident, thereby crushing your observation about channels. it makes 100% difference
im very limited but try to take advantage of unusual situations like non-starters or things that have a habit of coming out of stalls slowly. or playing up in them(that works well in the u.s, btw)
im very limited but try to take advantage of unusual situations like non-starters or things that have a habit of coming out of stalls slowly. or playing up in them(that works well in the u.s, btw)
bore off
who knows or cares? maybe it was a falsie or pulled a muscle or a million things. not interested in your monomania
who knows or cares? maybe it was a falsie or pulled a muscle or a million things. not interested in your monomania
Any of those that you know makes it pay must have an edge such as drone access.
im very limited but try to take advantage of unusual situations like non-starters or things that have a habit of coming out of stalls slowly. or playing up in them(that works well in the u.s, btw)
well done, how much did you lay Transmission for when Joe Anderson was dangling around its neck ??
well done, how much did you lay Transmission for when Joe Anderson was dangling around its neck ??
wrong. they have had a look and binned them because theres no money to justify the expense
3 of them play only in the place market, which used to be easier in the good ol days but isnt now
one thing they are is disciplined and have reduced steaks massively since they were in a shop, playing at home now. they use every pre-set stake option and never bet on the 'spread'
id be quite handy if i wasnt plastered all the time. but i am in front despite this handicap
3 of them play only in the place market, which used to be easier in the good ol days but isnt now
one thing they are is disciplined and have reduced steaks massively since they were in a shop, playing at home now. they use every pre-set stake option and never bet on the 'spread'
id be quite handy if i wasnt plastered all the time. but i am in front despite this handicap
mitolo 07 Jan 24 14:27
pity it was on atr, id have at least tried to back it to win but did back the place i/r at 12
thanks for that opportunity sulk
pity it was on atr, id have at least tried to back it to win but did back the place i/r at 12
thanks for that opportunity sulk
swiftynifty 11 Jan 24 18:39
The GPS isn't accurate enough in a 6 inch winning distance
i wouldnt disagree,,tell me then how every photo finish unless the distance is under 3" there is 10k to lay 101 in the pink way before any slo mo appears...simply isnt feasible (imo)
The GPS isn't accurate enough in a 6 inch winning distance
i wouldnt disagree,,tell me then how every photo finish unless the distance is under 3" there is 10k to lay 101 in the pink way before any slo mo appears...simply isnt feasible (imo)
Rico-Dangleflaps Jan 24 21:55
tell me then how every photo finish unless the distance is under 3" there is 10k to lay 101 in the pink way before any slo mo appears
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so over the last few years i've mentioned the 20k 1.01 pink side bloke who always seems to get in 1st (and very very very quickly)...
under the 1 sec in running delay period imv (and i know others who share the same view but i won't name them)...
and every single time i mentioned this you (Mr.Hunt) poo poo'd it...
it would appear you have changed your mind on this scenario (not the first time you have come round to my way of thinking i might add)...
i'm glad we eventually agreed Mr.Hunt...
but as always it's a pity it took you so long...
no need for an apology btw.
tell me then how every photo finish unless the distance is under 3" there is 10k to lay 101 in the pink way before any slo mo appears
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so over the last few years i've mentioned the 20k 1.01 pink side bloke who always seems to get in 1st (and very very very quickly)...
under the 1 sec in running delay period imv (and i know others who share the same view but i won't name them)...
and every single time i mentioned this you (Mr.Hunt) poo poo'd it...
it would appear you have changed your mind on this scenario (not the first time you have come round to my way of thinking i might add)...
i'm glad we eventually agreed Mr.Hunt...
but as always it's a pity it took you so long...
no need for an apology btw.
things evolve..things now are different to last week.
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