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FOYLESWAR
27 Dec 23 21:57
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getting the racing facts right is  not so simple ...........agatha christie  adaptation on bbc now ............2 blokes talking about reading the form in the racing post and according to this show never say die didnt win the derby . this is set in the 1950s
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Report workrider • December 27, 2023 10:25 PM GMT
Just had a glimpse and what a shambles Foyleswar , can't believe the amount of non Nationals in that TINY village in the 50s , very inclusive indeed , oh of course the Black star of the show just happened to have taken off his shirt as the young White lady appeared oh but it is the BBC..I presume we never seen that on tv...Laugh
Report FOYLESWAR • December 27, 2023 10:59 PM GMT
yeah worky i hd to try to ignore the wokeness but it aint easy .
Report differentdrum • December 27, 2023 11:34 PM GMT
Recorded it, and will try and struggle through it. Most recent adaptations have been bordering on useless, in fact everything since David Suchet finished the Poirot stories.

I suppose those carrying on the Christie name will be quite pleased with the casting, deflecting any questions about what she originally called 'And Then There Were None'.
Report FOYLESWAR • December 28, 2023 9:24 AM GMT
ten little indians ........diffdrum!
Report Ramruma • December 28, 2023 10:25 AM GMT
Changing the Derby winner must have been deliberate but I'm not sure why. Having the Racing Post in the 1950s is just careless.
Report FOYLESWAR • December 28, 2023 10:31 AM GMT
those were the racing based mistakes i noticed but i was looking at form while trying to watch the show so could have been more ricks that went over my head.
Report Ramruma • December 28, 2023 11:01 AM GMT
The Derby winner was changed to Djibouti II, so far as I could make out. Djibouti is a country in Africa, and there was some odd African stuff at the beginning so whether there is a connection, who knows?
Report BESTMATE44 • December 29, 2023 10:10 AM GMT
Watched the two episodes last night.I wasted two hours of my life,absolute rubbish.The BBC should be ashamed of themselves!
Report jimmythewon • December 29, 2023 10:36 AM GMT
If you've recorded it for watching later, do not bother. Absolutely the very worst "drama" of any type ever produced by the BBC. Full of unbelievable incidents like the villain managing to spot an old lady in central London and run her over without anyone getting sight of the car. Acting totally substandard in parts. Drama on the cheap.
Report Ramruma • December 29, 2023 10:43 AM GMT
Not on the cheap. Production values seemed high.

It was appalling though, even looking past the racing errors. It was like the worst sort of amateur dramatics. Very stilted, mannered delivery of shockingly poor dialogue. It must have been the writing and direction because the actors are surely better than this.
Report Hayden • December 29, 2023 11:41 AM GMT
Wife watches all this kina stuff but reckons this was dreadful , resembling amateur dramatics in parts.

She also gave it the ultimate insult by comparing the acting standards to Death in Paradise.
Report FOYLESWAR • December 29, 2023 12:16 PM GMT
what were the chances  of the murderer being a person of colour ?
Report workrider • December 29, 2023 7:39 PM GMT
I'd say its 000.1 to be a WHITE person of colour Foyleswar....Laugh
Report FOYLESWAR • December 29, 2023 7:46 PM GMT
Laugh
Report CagliariG • December 29, 2023 7:57 PM GMT
Who were the writers in the RP Foyles?

Gig Mac
Big Al Dowm
Paul Haigh
Sir Clement

Those were the days!!Wink
Report madhatter • December 29, 2023 10:44 PM GMT
Does anyone remember/have/be willing to post up the brilliant Paul Haigh column from maybe 30/35 years ago now about all the excuses why 'his' horse didn't win?
I think it was written from the trainers (or maybe the punters?) viewpoint.

Two columns of brilliant excuses such as distance too far, needs further, too firm, too soft, stepped in hole, wrong jockey, needs tongue tie/ blinkers/cheek pieces/ear plugs, distracted by pheasant, hates running in the rain, too sunny, missed break, in front too early, in season, coltish, better left/right handed etc.

It was a brilliant piece by the man in his prime but I cant find the article anywhere...any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Mad
Report differentdrum • December 29, 2023 10:45 PM GMT
I watched it back tonight. Bit surprised, it wasn't good, but it was better than recent adaptations. Many will have seen the 80's film so the revelation would hardly be a surprise. Unfortunately, the two main actors were completely wooden. Not sure why they changed the Derby winner? I presume racism didn't exist in 1950's rural England. He must have had quite a big suitcase to accommodate all his changes of clothes.
Report Tattcorner • December 30, 2023 2:10 PM GMT
Agree differentdrum, Never Say Die was a perfect name for a horse in a murder mystery and I agree about that 'Tardis' suitcase he took to  the village.  His evening suit was so immaculate and uncreased and it always makes me laugh when they hold  the case as if there's only a spare shirt, socks and toothbrush etc inside. Most of the time I kept fast forwarding it by 20 secs.
Report Hayden • December 30, 2023 2:31 PM GMT
Madhatter

Can't find the piece you're talking about but do read past stuff from Mr Haigh on occasions , great reading   Happy

This bit still makes me laugh from 13yrs ago , pretty poignant when you witness what's going on these days...


message from Paul Haigh
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timeless21 Oct 10 12:07Joined: 01 Apr 08 | Topic/replies: 8,714 | Blogger: timeless's blog
He is very angry imo !

" God, it makes me sick reading all these 'What's wrong with British racing?' fred and blogs in which they fail to mention it's the basic structure that's knackered (a much stronger word was used but edited by yours truly so Paul would not get a 3rd life sentence), and as long as the bookies are allowed to own it they will suck all the juice out and then throw away the corpse when finnish.
Racing For Change (women's private parts) just a smokescreen to hide the real problem.

Please put this in a fred. Attribute it to me if you like. Point out that I can't contribute to the fred as I have been band for two life sentences to run concurrently.

Fanx.
Report Ramruma • December 30, 2023 3:36 PM GMT
Apparently it was Agatha Christie herself who just made up a horse's name in the book, and Never Say Die was added in by the scriptwriter, so mystery solved, even if the sensible choice would have been to let Never Say Die win.
Report fairweather • December 30, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
This is what happens when the scriptwriter and main actor are chosen for ‘inclusivity’ reasons, rather than on merit. You end up with badly written, badly acted crud, littered with irrelevant references to slavery and colonialism.
Not that the BBC will mind, they get their licence fee money whether we watch their indoctrination or not..
Report FOYLESWAR • December 30, 2023 8:11 PM GMT
stewarts that link i put up for youtube blue remembered hills is the stage version ,sorry my mistake not a patch on the tv play.
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