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HappyHibby
19 Dec 23 12:40
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i'm sorry but that is completely dodgy imv...

how on earth anyone can see a horse veering to the right and not be able to follow it/keep it in the picture is beyond me...

i mean are these folk blind-folded ?

even as they turned in to the home straight for the first time the camera operator was following the 2nd horse...

the leader was ignored until very late on...

i'm just not buying the argument that they are not very good at their jobs no more...

sorry.

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By:
kevo
When: 19 Dec 23 12:42
Appalling camera work.
By:
sparrow
When: 19 Dec 23 12:46
Wouldn't even have occurred to the cameraman to actually show what was happening.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 12:50
sparrow...

how can a professional cameraperson look through a lens...

see a horse going to the right (and it was the long-time leader btw)...

and think to themselves 'i'll just ignore it' ?

how is that possible ?

it's utterly disgraceful...

not the first time very strange things have happened either by the camera person or the telly director in the racecourse truck...

i ain't daft.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 12:50
and what does Racetech do about it ?

SFA.
By:
sparrow
When: 19 Dec 23 13:13
Many of these people will probably have no understanding of how to film a horserace and what the viewer expects to see.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:24
they can't be that naive imv sparrow...

the leader veers off the track and they say to themselves 'i won't bother following the horse' ?

i mean that is just laughable if you ask me.
By:
sparrow
When: 19 Dec 23 13:31
Seems to be for us hibby but we are concentrating on the race properly!
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:38
i'm less forgiving than you are sparrow...

seen too many 'strange' things going on from camera folk/tv directors in the racecourse trucks tbh.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Dec 23 13:46

Dec 19, 2023 -- 1:38PM, HappyHibby wrote:


i'm less forgiving than you are sparrow...seen too many 'strange' things going on from camera folk/tv directors in the racecourse trucks tbh.


There is no benefit from anyone involved in the production of BFL pics deliberately sabotaging pics. They still won't beat the drones.

By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:50
wake up jamee.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:52
anyone playing off raw feed pics is well ahead of drones.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Dec 23 13:55
Wake up Hibby. It's the viewing angle that delivers most of the benefit, not the delay. Drones are level with RTV pics which are only about half a second behind live.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Dec 23 13:57
It's not the year 2010 anymore.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:58
and you reckon half a second means nowt jamee ?
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 13:59
and half a second is a minimum btw...

i have absolutely no doubt it is more than that from time to time.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Dec 23 14:05
You can believe what you want to believe. But every day you waste energy on some big production conspiracy that doesn't exist.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 14:08
so jamee...

if a horse slips on a bend...runs out at a hurdle...falls over a fence...pulls up for whatever reason...

who do you reckon has the best chance of getting it first ?

someone with a mimimum 0.5 sec advantage...

or someone sat at home watching drone footage ?
By:
knot in wood
When: 19 Dec 23 14:10
The whole coverage is focused against the serious punter who plays in-running or wants to observe whats going on behind the front two.

1- camera remaining static on the winning line...surely they could just zoom back and show whats happening to the place horses and also rans..

2- Close ups- usually from that poxy truck camera,just a arty-farty idea..pointless imo..

3-No Head-on...vital if you take the game seriously..

There is very little difference now between RTV and that shower of **** at Sky Sports Racing (RTV do have a good racing replay),majority of today's pundits bore you rigid..Talk a lot..Say nothing..

The Bookies run the game, would not surprise me if they have informed Racetech etc to show as little as possible..

That's my rant over for this year, nothing will change..

Not sure why i bother Laugh
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 14:12
some interesting stuff there knot in wood tbh.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Dec 23 14:27

Dec 19, 2023 -- 2:08PM, HappyHibby wrote:


so jamee...if a horse slips on a bend...runs out at a hurdle...falls over a fence...pulls up for whatever reason...who do you reckon has the best chance of getting it first ?someone with a mimimum 0.5 sec advantage...or someone sat at home watching drone footage ?


If that's your game then obvs the latency, but they are exceptional events and it's not where the money is.

You seem convinced the whole production set-up is deliberately using inferior camera work, just to give a couple of guys in a van a negligible advantage over dozens of pro drone users. It would never be worth the cost, time, and effort.

I'm just trying to save you the wasted energy and stress, but you will believe what you want to believe.

By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 14:28
i will jamee but thanx for your concern.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Dec 23 14:41
looks like they have a low level closeb up camera on the finishes today and it looked like that was the camera they tried to pick him ducking out with but went to wide for them on that camera
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Dec 23 14:42
took the commentator a good while to spot it running out
By:
HappyHibby
When: 19 Dec 23 14:48
i think you will find it was the 'head on camera person' who missed the horse going right initially 1st time poster...

looked to me like it wanted to duck out at the paddock entrance bit but as we weren't allowed to see it then it's hard to be 100% sure tbh.
By:
Hayden
When: 19 Dec 23 15:21
Crikey i'd love to know how you lot coped when you needed some crappy teletext service to get results and only saw live TV coverage once a fortnight , the good old nostalgia days that can do no wrong    Grin
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