FRANKIE Nominated for Sports Personality of the Year

If there wasn't any odds on the event then there wouldn't be a thread though tbf , no interest in the event itself and this is a betting forum.

I think Mr Dettori would be the most undeserving winner, why? Apart from his retirement for race riding (oops! he changed his mind...he's riding in America) what has he done to be listed for this award? I'm not even suggesting his dalliance with narcotic, but achievement.

When McCoy won,a relative just said to me as a matter of fact,it’s not really a sport.
I was crushed,but that is how some see racing.

What is a sport.
Some say,if you need different foot wear to compete.

Given the list of winners,I think dettorri has done enough to win it,not this year,but at some point.

What is a sport.
Some say,if you need different foot wear to compete.

never heard anyone define a 'sport' by that qualificiation before!

It's subjective really mate and there's been debates surrounding Darts & Snooker for years.


The Council of Europe charter on sport uses the following definition: "Sport means all forms of physical activity, which through casual or organised participation, aim at expressing or improving physical fitness and mental well-being, forming social relationships or obtaining results in competition at all levels".

Basically,if you have to bend down to take your shoes off,you’re sporty.

Physical activity,Broad statement.
Darts
Snooker
Chess.

Some say anything increased heart rate.

Mind you a few jockeys might fall foul on this ,given the effort they put in sometimes.

Horseracing is a spectator sport, and a leisure activity. Unless one is a jockey horsearacing is not classed as a sport.

If a jockey,what difference do you do ,compared to chasers off the chase tv program.
They study all day to answer quiz questions,are dedicated to their profession etc etc.they might keep fit at the gym,to increase mind power.
Is being a quizzer a sport.

The best classification of a sport I ve heard is.

If you need equipment to partake.

quite a few boxes successfully ticked...

Nice balance from the BBC.

Although not sure who the gay is

Might be going for max inclusion,and winner comes on on show.

A woman goalkeeper ffs the end is nigh,dreadful meaningless rubbish….all howling and screaming from the stands,unbearable..and the commentary…wow! Ffs

Three cheers for the mute button best invention of all time imv….

Business development.

Mares hurdle
Women’s football

Creating a demand out of waste.good luck to them,if people are interested,then fair play.but it’s not worthy of an award.

He said if he was young again he'd not ride in Britain because the UK was lacking massively compared to the rest of the world.

Wow! That's a strong statement for a man whose livelihood came virtually entirely from the UK.

He can tell it how it is now i suppose now he's gone for good ( i think )

Which sport is the Sport of Kings ?

The Blue Riband middle-distance athletics event of the year was the World Championships 1500m
Favourite and all-time great Jakob Ingebrigtsen was outbattled down the whole home straight by Josh Kerr,
in a titanic duel.

Possibly one of the hardest Gold Medals to win.
He is white and Anglo-Saxon and completely overlooked for a SPOTY nomination.

You're talking about a proper sportsman at the pinnacle of his sport though Poppy , so i reckon missing out on a gimmick event won't upset him too much.

If FD wins I will show my ass in wilkos window. Nae Chance.

Wow, didn't realise the England goalie was that price, 1/7 on ,Oddschecker.

frankie won the same amount of majors as Rory, could be close ....

How on earth is that golfer in the running for anything , never watch golf myself and dislike the sport but do recall Sky looking back on his round continuously despite the fact he's a mile off the pace , hasn't won a big event for nearly a decade according to google.

wilkos window 

hasn't won a major since 2014 but still getting shortlisted.

be a banker for this if he ever wins one, unless a woman goalies saved a penalty somewhere ...

I'm with you Slippy.

No surprise at all to see Dettori’s totally disrespectful comments today re British racing. The guy is a complete w@nker, always has been, always will be. Very happy to claim all the glory and bask in it when he won, but when he lost it was always everyone else’s fault but his own. Absolute c*nt of the highest order and a complete joke that he’s made it onto the SPOTY shortlist.

Snooker not seen as a sport since 1988. Taylor chucked a few too.
Very little "personality" in this centuries winners. Why the runner not win London 2012?

soldieroffortune -- Frankie makes three points that seem quite reasonable:-

1. He knows he will not win SPotY (he was only 3rd after the Magnificent 7) but is pleased to have been nominated

2. Someone new needs to step up to be the face of racing, just as he replaced Willie Carson, and racing as a whole needs to sell itself

3. British racing has fallen behind other countries, especially Australia and the US, owing to low prizemoney (HK & Japan too) and has been financially dependent on the Middle East

You can read it yourself at:-
https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/frankie-dettori-i-was-selling-myself-but-i-was-also-selling-racing-because-someones-got-to-do-it-a9dX03J8PQlF/

Asked who might succeed him as the face of the sport, he said: "I don't know, maybe we'll have to wait ten years to find out, but there's loads of young jockeys that can become household names. I didn't start like this. When I started Willie Carson was the most flamboyant person in the sport, but it took a lot of work to get to this position.

"If you go back to 1996, I had the seven winners, I did Question of Sport and Top Of The Pops, I was on Parkinson. It took me years to become a household name.

"I was selling myself, but I was selling my sport because someone's got to do it. There's no point sitting back, riding and going to bed. We're an entertainment sport and I used it to propel myself, but I used it to help the sport.

"I think everyone should roll up their sleeves and do what I did. You go to America, Australia, Japan, everything's available for everyone, from morning track work to interviews on the radio. In England it's all top secret, we can't film it or say anything. I think we're lacking there."

John Gosden has backed Frankie Dettori in his bid to be crowned BBC Sports Personality of the Year on Tuesday night and claimed the superstar jockey should be favourite for the prestigious award.

Gosden believes Dettori's unique longevity in racing would make him a worthy winner and feels his former stable jockey's position as fourth in the betting at odds of 25-1 with Coral is wide of the mark.

He said: "I think Frankie should be even-money to win it on the basis of being consistently top-class over 35 years. It's a great achievement that his name is there but the key is to remain at the top – that is what is so unique. It doesn't happen in many athletic activities."

For horseracing perhaps. But, in general no way. The bloke has a history of drug abuse whilst riding and his exorbitant appearance money is another I'd not vote for him - he's sufficiently wealthy.

7-9pm tonight, BBC1.

For the first time, I've no interest in who wins.

Six candidates. Three are up for lifetime achievement awards: Frankie, Rory McIlroy and Stuart Broad. The hot favourite, Earps, is looking for a consolation prize after not winning the World Cup, leaving heptathlete KJT who won gold at the World Championships, which no-one cares about, and Alfie the wheelchair tennis guy which also no-one cares about.

I'm going out on a limb and saying one of them will lift the trophy in a mediocre year for British sport.

He said: "I think Frankie should be even-money to win itLaugh on the basis of being consistently top-class over 35 years. It's a great achievement that his name is there but the key is to remain at the top – that is what is so unique. It doesn't happen in many athletic activities."



Trouble is majority of voters will be the same crowd who voted him out of the jungle early doors.

I mean Frankie is a bigger personality than the rest of them put together but Horseracing is dying the death in this Country.Most youngsters would not entertain going Racing.

Mr Dettori bigger personality than the rest put together? I think it's probably the horseracing fan only; I like Mr Dettori as a jockey. As a person, I'm not sure because I do not know him; he did some things I disagreed with or abhorred.

I agree this year's collection are not household names; Ms Earps won England the Euro, and took England to the World Cup Final. She's also personable. The rest apart from Mr Mcllroy are unknown entities.

The winner has already been decided with Mary Earps 1-6 currently. When phone voting decides the winner it soon becomes clear who will come out on top.

The working classes at their worst, watching multimillionaires make even more money by trying to be nice in front of cameras.
And then they vote for their favourite characters.

What a bunch of suckers the lower classes are.
Worshipping people who couldn't be bothered to even spit on them if they were on fire.
They deserve everything they get for being so dumb.

didnt earps publicly apologise for the mistake that cost the GB side a place in the olympics ?, maybe she should share it with NIKE who,s row she had with made her more famous than her goalkeeping, her launguage is also shocking as a role model for kids

had a £5 betbuilder.  earps to win, lineker to kiss her on the lips and the england womans team refusing to play until he's sacked from the bbc. 

475/1

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It's absolutely farcical, Earps is 1.17 to win sums it all up nicely.
Another BBC wokefest job but if she's keeping Dettori out of winning the thing she gets my vote by default.

I had to google who earps was. I have no interest in womens football.

Not got much interest in this but out of those who are in it,
would like to see KJT win.World Chmpn twice over.

for last 20 yrs should have been called SPOTY for sport covered by the bbc ,hencev womens football get a good look in,2 on the bounce, if englands men hasd failed to qualify for major champs like olympics southgate/kane wouldnt be getting SPOTY but the tin tack

The debate earlier about whether racing is a sport is interesting - I personally think the key point is that being a Jockey is not a sport - it's part of it, but not an entire sport alone - they rely on having a beast to win their races.

jimmy connors relied on a tennis racket to win his matches ...

Bit tenuous hulk, unless the rackets varied from world class to selling class

Closer comparison is motor racing - where they do rely on machines that are good (and lose if not)...

Not one of your best analogies Hulk tbf 

should change the cars for the drivers every week, see how clever Verstappen is when its his shot in the Haas ....

You're digressing now away from true sport.

Indeed - remember when they put that kid in Hamilton's car and he almost won with it in F1 race, lol

That was reply to hulk

Mad Max is still mad Max; Adrian Newey is the real factor/difference, aided and abetted by the own goals of the designers at Mercedes.

A tennis racket only makes a marginal difference to the performance of its holder. In horseracing, the ability of the horse is the absolute key even a chimp has been known to win on it regularly.

SPOTY is on. Has the Italian money-grabber spoken yet?

Like penzance I would like to see kjt win it,I could stand for broad but not the other 4 I like Rory but he wouldn’t be a worthy winner as for the 8/1 on favourite what has it come to if she wins.

did frankie fail the interview with gabby ? 

was 42 to lay an hour ago, now 85/200

Earps fav for saving a penalty & shouting phuck off?
Broad nearly 20 years of playing for England & bagging over 600 wickets.
Tough choice.

why earps ?  why not Lucy Bronze, or Millie Bright. 

or anyone else in the 'team' ?

why earps ? Is an OK result with Corrals.

Earps was voted the best keeper in the world.

Onana's better.

Who's Onana? Netball or ice hockey?

Mr Dettori has come last or 2nd last. Better luck in USA!

Is Mr Dettori at the ceremony? I've not seen him.

3rd fav - 3rd
2nd fav - 2nd
fav - 1st

should have one of them every week

1st job get a full length mirror in the house

Worth watching just to see sir Bobby put the 4th in against Benfica

Mr Dettori was not even at the ceremony. He was on a family holiday in Europe. Has he not heard on aeroplanes? Maybe Mr Dettori could not be bothered after all.

Just watched a vid of her getting the award.
Lovely outfit.

Mr Dettori went into the jungle for money. However, Mr Dettori did not bother to be at the SPOTY ceremony even though he was only one of six nominated. Imagine one was a supporter of his, rang to vote for him, and he did not show up

I think Mr Dettori has let his supporters down. Poor decision!

this event is as relevant to sport as the BDO darts championship is to darts............since they are on at roughly the same time of year (give or take 2 to 3 weeks), maybe the nominees for the BBC SPOTY could enter the BDO darts comp and whoever gets furthest in the darts comop and be the BBC SPOTY winner..........they might even win the darts comp as well...........

Must confess I have never heard of her or the disabled nominee.

Must be a few more like me out there.

True barstool and good example brain dead BDO indicative of capitulation of viewing figures the sad demise of the beeb and sinking of QOS. Years gone by was one of the Xmas highlights bottle of pom pom most enjoyable evening look at it now. I didn't watch last night because programme has just got so bad. Probably way to illustrate that is it has no class. Beeb is about minority sport now they cannot afford anything else. Maybe they could if they didn't pay wopping dosh to presenters say no more. All wrong. Wish I didn't have to pay my licence fee like many others did I read somewhere like nationally 400000 don't now?

Never watch it, saw on the news the woman football keeper won
PMSL
Terrible, but then who else was up, can’t say anyone really deserved it. But it seems another reason to pass the ‘award’ along the line of women footballers who most of the country couldn’t name.

Anyone remember team winners 1970? get googling!

Couldnt make top 3 in a dreadful year for british sport. Like a few others would have loved to have seen KJT win who would have been a more deserving winner after her comeback from serious injury to win a World title. I cant recall what Earps won on the world stage to deserve the win

We saw dettori and his personality in the jungle he didn’t have one, in racing we got used to his one liners and short bursts but he is a bore and jungle done him no favours at all , the true Frankie came out

Spot on Know all, funtime Frankie my ar$e.

to be fair to mcilroy he actually had a very good season(won and came 2nd a couple times,13 top 10s/18 events)and helped carry europe to ryder cup victory.

Nice one jimnast.  I didn't watch the show for about the twentieth year running.
Do you think they made a mistake and meant to cancel this one and not AQOS?

TBF on the winner, Earps, though I'm absolutely no fan of the media propoganda around women's football, we do have to recognise that obviously the voters in this competition knew who she was and appreciated what she had done this year.

I don't believe she should have won, but it's clear the majority vote did, whichever way we look at it.

SPOTY is an awful competition though, given it hides the chances of many that might deserve to be named best sports person.

Murray was the last decent winner IMO.

Sweary Earps a great role model for young girls

https://www.tiktok.com/@thedailystar/video/7269379445302103329

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Horseracing is a spectator sport, and a leisure activity. Unless one is a jockey horsearacing is not classed as a sport.


Of course it is.
The sport of Kings

But a horse can't win SPOTY....cue Princess Anne jokes..

Let's face it. Mr Dettori does not deserve to win any SPOTY. Mr Dettori is superficial and flaky. His community may laud him for self-interest, outsiders do not.

Of course it is.
The sport of Kings


I don't think that refers to 'being a Jockey' though does it? They are just a part of it, and not the part that does most of the work.

and appreciated what she had done this year.

And what had she done?

B*gger all, other than be a female footballer and fit the BBC agenda.

She helped England win the Euro. She nearly won England the World Cup too.

1991 - Bob NUDD  - Angler/Fisherman

There was a campaign in an angling newspaper to make him the BBC’s prizewinner for 1991, and angling being the massively popular passtime that it is, he got a huge number of votes, more than 100,000.

This haul was so huge, in fact, that he would have walked the title, way ahead of Liz McColgan, Will Carling and Gary Lineker, who were the top three that year.   

However, the BBC ruled that the campaign in an angling newspaper had gone against the competition rules, and Bob Nudd was denied what would have been the catch of his career.   

is that a typo BOB RUDD ,surely

in the net!