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what a shock, been with them over 30 years id say, been restricred to only a few quid since years but i still enjoy doing soccer accas , but now closed with immediate effect
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@howard at least in your case I can see exactly why they would close your account - it's all cost and no revenue to them?
yeah true but I did get in touch with live chat and was willing to deposit some money to keep it open ( even though heavily restricted ) Very interesting to see that punters having modest bets have been closed down. As I said to them I thought the problem these days was betting too much. This mass cull needs to be brought to the attention of the media.
Don't get mad, get even. Submit a detailed and specific Data Subject Access Request (google "DSAR".
It will take you about half an hour to complete the request - if you make it detailed and specific, it will take them 100's of man-hours to comply with the law and respond.
Detailed and specific equals = all the information they hold on you - request that they supply your data both digitally and a hard-copy (paper), ask for copies of every bet you have ever had, your p&l, a list of all deposits and withdrawals, a list of all cards ever registered, all your personal details that they hold, a copy of EVERY e-mail and promotion you have ever been sent either via e-mail text or any other medium, a list of the ones you participated in, details of any "cash out" bets, a list of anybody/other companies/affiliates with whom they have shared your data, all notes on your account, copies and the transcripts from any complaints or queries, webchats, etc, etc.
They have a legal obligation to provide all of this within a timeline that is completely unmanagable!
If everybody that had their account restricted or closed did this, they would either need to reconsider their strategy or they would have to employ a small army of people to comply with the law.
It will take you about half an hour to complete the request - if you make it detailed and specific, it will take them 100's of man-hours to comply with the law and respond.
Detailed and specific equals = all the information they hold on you - request that they supply your data both digitally and a hard-copy (paper), ask for copies of every bet you have ever had, your p&l, a list of all deposits and withdrawals, a list of all cards ever registered, all your personal details that they hold, a copy of EVERY e-mail and promotion you have ever been sent either via e-mail text or any other medium, a list of the ones you participated in, details of any "cash out" bets, a list of anybody/other companies/affiliates with whom they have shared your data, all notes on your account, copies and the transcripts from any complaints or queries, webchats, etc, etc.
They have a legal obligation to provide all of this within a timeline that is completely unmanagable!
If everybody that had their account restricted or closed did this, they would either need to reconsider their strategy or they would have to employ a small army of people to comply with the law.
After you have done this once, remember to save the template, for the next bunch of parasitic scum that think it's ok to only do business with degenerates that are addicted to slots and casino games.
Lead on,fully understand what you mean,different class to the rest of them.
We need knew rules. disassociate gaming from gambling, 2 different licences 2 different shops (not in 365 case)
and 2 completely different websites.
and you cannot have a gaming licence unless you have a betting licence if you want to take bets in the UK and all firms should have a minimum
win applied. ie £500 after 11am. no discrimination of punters.
That would be my idea
and 2 completely different websites.
and you cannot have a gaming licence unless you have a betting licence if you want to take bets in the UK and all firms should have a minimum
win applied. ie £500 after 11am. no discrimination of punters.
That would be my idea
Just use the shops - free live racing, warmth and hot drinks 
Doubt they will close many accounts of people who play their slots/casino games.
Lady Carla & Sparrow must think you can't use the exchanges AND bookmaker accounts? Had some of best my wins by using Bet365 and putting 2 selections in doubles that I felt were massively overpriced. The liquidity simply wasn't there at the same prices on here and by the time the markets sorted themselves out I couldn't get anyway near the same prices to make a homemade double.
Every punter has his own way of doing things. You might want to consider this next time you post on such a subject, it would save you from embarrassing yourselves.
Every punter has his own way of doing things. You might want to consider this next time you post on such a subject, it would save you from embarrassing yourselves.
Totally agree with Whippin , depending on your strategies and providing you're not a one-dimensional punter , you need BOTH.
Good luck today all
Good luck today all
Put 2 of GeorgeB's selections in a double one evening because he made such a great case for them I had to play. Both ran at Kempton, both were huge prices. Following on from one of my own successful doubles a few weeks earlier, that was the last Bet365 account I had......
As with Whippin just to add another example..
Played a bad e/way 5 horse acca , all place books were over broke , each race had an odds on fav , all horses went above the planned goal by actually winning , acca paid £62k.
Max bet £0.11 the following morning but with a syndicate the accounts are pretty much endless.
Played a bad e/way 5 horse acca , all place books were over broke , each race had an odds on fav , all horses went above the planned goal by actually winning , acca paid £62k.
Max bet £0.11 the following morning but with a syndicate the accounts are pretty much endless.
Whippin Piccadilly 12 Dec 23 14:54
Lady Carla & Sparrow must think you can't use the exchanges AND bookmaker accounts? Had some of best my wins by using Bet365 and putting 2 selections in doubles that I felt were massively overpriced. The liquidity simply wasn't there at the same prices on here and by the time the markets sorted themselves out I couldn't get anyway near the same prices to make a homemade double.
Every punter has his own way of doing things. You might want to consider this next time you post on such a subject, it would save you from embarrassing yourselves.
So you're telling me you always beat the exchange prices by betting early? And have you still got this winning account at the risk of embarrassing myself?
Lady Carla & Sparrow must think you can't use the exchanges AND bookmaker accounts? Had some of best my wins by using Bet365 and putting 2 selections in doubles that I felt were massively overpriced. The liquidity simply wasn't there at the same prices on here and by the time the markets sorted themselves out I couldn't get anyway near the same prices to make a homemade double.
Every punter has his own way of doing things. You might want to consider this next time you post on such a subject, it would save you from embarrassing yourselves.
So you're telling me you always beat the exchange prices by betting early? And have you still got this winning account at the risk of embarrassing myself?
It's not necessarily about beating the price sparrow it's more to do with how many dimensions you have to your gambling and how to exploit the opportunities you can find for yourself.
If you're win singles player then the exchange is the place for you , as it would be for me , and is when i choose that bet type.
If you're win singles player then the exchange is the place for you , as it would be for me , and is when i choose that bet type.
Sparrow ,you can never have too many options,,,that includes shops ,accounts,,exchanges ,,private layers whatever
Not ALWAYS. Did I say always? Read Hayden's post. You could hit them for a 1 or 2 good scores before your account is finished.
I haven't had an e-mail yet but have been restricted for a few months but have been concerned for a while what funny games they will try with me as I had a free tenner bet credit pre season(before becoming restricted) and stuck it on a treble for Leicester, Portsmouth and Stockport for their respective leagues at 4/1, 9/1 and 11/2.
I agree hayden as I don't play doubles and haven't for many years now. Unfortunately whippin thinks that is clueless and he is clearly a big winner himself with his accounts.
Whippin Piccadilly 12 Dec 23 14:54
Lady Carla & Sparrow must think you can't use the exchanges AND bookmaker accounts?
How in your logic have you come to that conclusion, mind boggles
Lady Carla & Sparrow must think you can't use the exchanges AND bookmaker accounts?
How in your logic have you come to that conclusion, mind boggles
I'm quite happy with my options on here cobra which include laying and place only betting.
Sparrow and Carla...seething with jealously.
sparrow12 Dec 23 15:17Joined: 20 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 52,775 | Blogger: sparrow's blog
I'm quite happy with my options on here cobra which include laying and place only betting.
That's fine Sparrow, you do you. Play the game the best way you can. Am I knocking you for it?
I'm quite happy with my options on here cobra which include laying and place only betting.
That's fine Sparrow, you do you. Play the game the best way you can. Am I knocking you for it?
ladycarla12 Dec 23 09:14Joined: 03 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 3,696 | Blogger: ladycarla's blog
Should be good news for the exchange with all these accounts being closed but I won't hold my breath.
Memory of a Goldfish! lol
Should be good news for the exchange with all these accounts being closed but I won't hold my breath.
Memory of a Goldfish! lol
Whippin Piccadilly 12 Dec 23 15:20
sparrow12 Dec 23 15:17Joined: 20 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 52,775 | Blogger: sparrow's blog
I'm quite happy with my options on here cobra which include laying and place only betting.
That's fine Sparrow, you do you. Play the game the best way you can. Am I knocking you for it?
Yes you have.
sparrow12 Dec 23 15:17Joined: 20 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 52,775 | Blogger: sparrow's blog
I'm quite happy with my options on here cobra which include laying and place only betting.
That's fine Sparrow, you do you. Play the game the best way you can. Am I knocking you for it?
Yes you have.
ladycarla12 Dec 23 09:14Joined: 03 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 3,696 | Blogger: ladycarla's blog
Should be good news for the exchange with all these accounts being closed but I won't hold my breath.
Memory of a Goldfish! lol
If you have 10 accounts then they close 9, IYO would you bet more on the 1 account than you did?
P.S never seen you post a p and l tells me everything.
Should be good news for the exchange with all these accounts being closed but I won't hold my breath.
Memory of a Goldfish! lol
If you have 10 accounts then they close 9, IYO would you bet more on the 1 account than you did?
P.S never seen you post a p and l tells me everything.
Yes carla, about time we saw some Pand L being posted by the big winner.
I’ve still got my 365 account! What a mug!
They are the only ‘big’ firm I can still bet with. Been closed down by all the others and none of them were in profit.
They are the only ‘big’ firm I can still bet with. Been closed down by all the others and none of them were in profit.
only you know why they've looked at your account and decided you're worth keeping.
think the rest of us can hazard a guess ...
think the rest of us can hazard a guess ...
I've never had 10 Accounts at one time! One account at a time, it becomes profitable, then heavily restricted/closed. You then have to ask non betting family and friends to help with another account. Why would I do that? Post private details on a public forum? I tell you what I will do, put up a thread and post my bets PRE RACE. I look forward to seeing yourself & Sparrow's bets and thoughts BEFORE each race.....
s.kenbo, were you beating the price, following tipsters etc?
Else, is it just they are all running scared of massive group litigation down the line for poor/illegal practice?
Else, is it just they are all running scared of massive group litigation down the line for poor/illegal practice?
No, Swifty. They were all pretty much after one winning day, then gone.
Haven't time nor inclination to put threads on what I might fancy on any particlar race. 3 months Pand L will suffice and is much easier to do.
s.kenbo, just cannot fathom their business model, winners not welcome, losers not welcome, seems just giving up on all horse racing customers.
open an account, 5 bets, all lose, account closed.
all went off at 11/10, you took 11/4.
all went off at 11/10, you took 11/4.
Is this the same Sparrow who bemoans the lack of people posting anything worthwhile on here? Surely PRE RACE chat and selections is something worthwhile? I think this beats Aftertiming and fake P&L everyday of the week!
I will post some sort of Grab a Grand for Christmas thread. I hope you post some PRE RACE selections on it, but the chances of that are very slim I'd say.
I will post some sort of Grab a Grand for Christmas thread. I hope you post some PRE RACE selections on it, but the chances of that are very slim I'd say.
yes they think u took their 11/4 and then layed it much less.
Instead of going all round the houses with grab a grand Merry Christmas threads etc just post your P and L as others have done.
correct howard. they will assume you are locking in a prophet.
and nothing fks them off more than someone locking in a prophet.
and nothing fks them off more than someone locking in a prophet.
It’s ridiculous, Swifty. Makes no sense.
I’d hate to lose my b365 account. After yesterday’s cull it’s looking safe though!
I’d hate to lose my b365 account. After yesterday’s cull it’s looking safe though!
Bookmakers by law should have to lay to lose 500 in any market. They're a front for problem betting punters and casino addicts.
all been said before. anyone who received one of those emails should be able to send it on to the GC, point out they've been gubbed for no reason and object to 365's licence which was granted to offer betting facilities to the British public.
Closed my account as well - Account had a small balance balance sitting on there which I couldn't then access. Email made no mention of this balance. Presumably if I hadn't contacted them they would have kept this !
Scandalous stuff.
Scandalous stuff.
The Management 12 December 2023 11:00
Don't get mad, get even. Submit a detailed and specific Data Subject Access Request (google "DSAR".
It will take you about half an hour to complete the request - if you make it detailed and specific, it will take them 100's of man-hours to comply with the law and respond.
Detailed and specific equals = all the information they hold on you - request that they supply your data both digitally and a hard-copy (paper), ask for copies of every bet you have ever had, your p&l, a list of all deposits and withdrawals, a list of all cards ever registered, all your personal details that they hold, a copy of EVERY e-mail and promotion you have ever been sent either via e-mail text or any other medium, a list of the ones you participated in, details of any "cash out" bets, a list of anybody/other companies/affiliates with whom they have shared your data, all notes on your account, copies and the transcripts from any complaints or queries, webchats, etc, etc.
They have a legal obligation to provide all of this within a timeline that is completely unmanagable!
If everybody that had their account restricted or closed did this, they would either need to reconsider their strategy or they would have to employ a small army of people to comply with the law.
Just sent one of these to magic sign, who I can’t get a penny on with.
Don't get mad, get even. Submit a detailed and specific Data Subject Access Request (google "DSAR".
It will take you about half an hour to complete the request - if you make it detailed and specific, it will take them 100's of man-hours to comply with the law and respond.
Detailed and specific equals = all the information they hold on you - request that they supply your data both digitally and a hard-copy (paper), ask for copies of every bet you have ever had, your p&l, a list of all deposits and withdrawals, a list of all cards ever registered, all your personal details that they hold, a copy of EVERY e-mail and promotion you have ever been sent either via e-mail text or any other medium, a list of the ones you participated in, details of any "cash out" bets, a list of anybody/other companies/affiliates with whom they have shared your data, all notes on your account, copies and the transcripts from any complaints or queries, webchats, etc, etc.
They have a legal obligation to provide all of this within a timeline that is completely unmanagable!
If everybody that had their account restricted or closed did this, they would either need to reconsider their strategy or they would have to employ a small army of people to comply with the law.
Just sent one of these to magic sign, who I can’t get a penny on with.
You can have 2 grand a spin on roulette if you like
Still waiting for an email...acc. still"under review"since last tuesday..no message when they did that either...I had to go via the chat system to find out..same again last weekend...not really in a hurry as I've got no intention of betting again with such an unprofessional fitm.let alone.God forbid,trust them with any info. just want to withdraw my balance and lose it with another firm..
bet365 boss Denise Coates crowned UK's youngest female billionaire
wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody??
wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody??
haplessamatuer 13 Dec 23 14:50
bet365 boss Denise Coates crowned UK's youngest female billionaire
wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody?
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The FAR EAST - and all those Mad Chinese gamblers in and around that region
Quite how the Gambling Commission (attempt to) 'Regulate' That, must be baffling.
Bet 365 = also have Numerous Racecourse Named after them - as do Ladblokes - in Australia ...
- for example ...
bet365 Hamilton
bet365 Stawell
bet365 Geelong
bet365 Yarra Valley
bet365 Park Kilmore
bet365 Park Wodonga
bet365 Bairnsdale
bet365 Park Kyneton
bet365 Seymour
Ladbrokes Park Lakeside
Ladbrokes Cannon Park
Ladbrokes Pioneer Park
They are Not splashing out Sponsorship/Naming Rights Money - for those Tracks - for Nothing.
bet365 boss Denise Coates crowned UK's youngest female billionaire
wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody?
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The FAR EAST - and all those Mad Chinese gamblers in and around that region
Quite how the Gambling Commission (attempt to) 'Regulate' That, must be baffling.
Bet 365 = also have Numerous Racecourse Named after them - as do Ladblokes - in Australia ...
- for example ...
bet365 Hamilton
bet365 Stawell
bet365 Geelong
bet365 Yarra Valley
bet365 Park Kilmore
bet365 Park Wodonga
bet365 Bairnsdale
bet365 Park Kyneton
bet365 Seymour
Ladbrokes Park Lakeside
Ladbrokes Cannon Park
Ladbrokes Pioneer Park
They are Not splashing out Sponsorship/Naming Rights Money - for those Tracks - for Nothing.
In Australia bookies cannot pick and choose what bets to accept or refuse. I believe they've to accept bets according to theri terms and conditions of their trading licence.
In the UK the bookies aided and abetted by the silence of their main mouthpiece ie the Racing Post tell the punters the stake they will accept (or not). Here, the bookies run the betting industry and determine the amount of the horseracing levy - not the government or the Gambling Commission (the toothless watchdog of betting).
In the UK the bookies aided and abetted by the silence of their main mouthpiece ie the Racing Post tell the punters the stake they will accept (or not). Here, the bookies run the betting industry and determine the amount of the horseracing levy - not the government or the Gambling Commission (the toothless watchdog of betting).
https://twitter.com/WelshBearBets/status/1735001884392398897
^ A couple of claims here (also one in the comments) that old accounts with different bookmakers closed at the same time. "Sharing data?" the OP asks.
^ A couple of claims here (also one in the comments) that old accounts with different bookmakers closed at the same time. "Sharing data?" the OP asks.
parispike11 Dec 23 21:36Joined: 04 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 4,894 | Blogger: parispike's blog
Ditto. Been restricted to winning a tenner for years and now the closure.
Prob send a request under data protection for info = cost 'em more than the £10 it'll cost me to compile the information.
Absolute rogues.
Sent a SAR under DPA regs. Alll responded to very quickly with a promise to supply information within prescribed timeframe. Suggests me me they anticipated an influx of such requests and have geared up for it. The question is why are they doing this? Best guess I cam make is that shutting a number of accounts is somehow allowing them to (ostensibly) demonstrate to, e.g. Gambling Commission that they are taking action. In other words "oh yes, GC we've shut x accounts over y months" with the GC too stupid to realise that they are accounts already heavily limited not problem gamblers at all!
Ditto. Been restricted to winning a tenner for years and now the closure.
Prob send a request under data protection for info = cost 'em more than the £10 it'll cost me to compile the information.
Absolute rogues.
Sent a SAR under DPA regs. Alll responded to very quickly with a promise to supply information within prescribed timeframe. Suggests me me they anticipated an influx of such requests and have geared up for it. The question is why are they doing this? Best guess I cam make is that shutting a number of accounts is somehow allowing them to (ostensibly) demonstrate to, e.g. Gambling Commission that they are taking action. In other words "oh yes, GC we've shut x accounts over y months" with the GC too stupid to realise that they are accounts already heavily limited not problem gamblers at all!
off the wall thought - they might be thinking of floating the company? And have been advised that they should only cite genuine active accounts in prospectus figures?
need to open another 20 accounts before the Grand National comes round again. that's worth a ton an account, pays for the summer holidays.
dave135714 Dec 23 14:05Joined: 05 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 20,475 | Blogger: dave1357's blog
off the wall thought - they might be thinking of floating the company? And have been advised that they should only cite genuine active accounts in prospectus figures?
Far from unfeasible but doesn't explain why Hills are (reportedly) doing the same?
Whatever, there will be a reason. It's clearly a coordinated exercise.
off the wall thought - they might be thinking of floating the company? And have been advised that they should only cite genuine active accounts in prospectus figures?
Far from unfeasible but doesn't explain why Hills are (reportedly) doing the same?
Whatever, there will be a reason. It's clearly a coordinated exercise.
hulk23 • December 14, 2023 2:22 PM GMT
need to open another 20 accounts before the Grand National comes round again. that's worth a ton an account, pays for the summer holidays.
I'd be very careful, she's recently taken to contacted plod about multi-accounters.
need to open another 20 accounts before the Grand National comes round again. that's worth a ton an account, pays for the summer holidays.
I'd be very careful, she's recently taken to contacted plod about multi-accounters.
Heard similar Dave from a Trading Director pal last week , Iesnare doing it's job by the looks.
Is Gnoming Fraudulent?
This is a much bigger question than the fairness or unfairness of bookmakers placing restrictions on multiple accounts, or actively monitoring and tracking how we are accessing their services like the cyber police.
Helping a friend learn the matched betting ropes is one thing. But actively seeking to dupe the bookies into believing you are different people is another thing altogether. And it could be called fraud. The bookies don’t like it, and neither do the police. The real ones too, never mind the cyber cops.
Not only that, but if you were providing betting services and betting on the behalf of other people you should be paying tax on any earnings you made. Which would get HMRC involved. Though you would think that they had bigger fish to fry in the shape of multinational corporations avoiding paying tax by squeezing their murky profits through systemic loopholes, tax avoidance is tax avoidance.
Not only do most bookmakers restrict multi-accounts, no industry fulcrum - an accolade of which Yesbets is in receipt - recommends or condones multi-accounting, or gnoming.
That said, some bookmakers do allow partner accounts. Sky Bet, Ladbrokes and Bet Victor all allow partner accounts, while some others like Bet365 allow accounts at the same address but officially only allow one of those account holders to access any promotions.
Given that promotional free bets are the main tools of bagging profits from matched betting, this last is kind of a deal breaker.
Is Gnoming Fraudulent?
This is a much bigger question than the fairness or unfairness of bookmakers placing restrictions on multiple accounts, or actively monitoring and tracking how we are accessing their services like the cyber police.
Helping a friend learn the matched betting ropes is one thing. But actively seeking to dupe the bookies into believing you are different people is another thing altogether. And it could be called fraud. The bookies don’t like it, and neither do the police. The real ones too, never mind the cyber cops.
Not only that, but if you were providing betting services and betting on the behalf of other people you should be paying tax on any earnings you made. Which would get HMRC involved. Though you would think that they had bigger fish to fry in the shape of multinational corporations avoiding paying tax by squeezing their murky profits through systemic loopholes, tax avoidance is tax avoidance.
Not only do most bookmakers restrict multi-accounts, no industry fulcrum - an accolade of which Yesbets is in receipt - recommends or condones multi-accounting, or gnoming.
That said, some bookmakers do allow partner accounts. Sky Bet, Ladbrokes and Bet Victor all allow partner accounts, while some others like Bet365 allow accounts at the same address but officially only allow one of those account holders to access any promotions.
Given that promotional free bets are the main tools of bagging profits from matched betting, this last is kind of a deal breaker.
real police interested in bookies closing accounts for no reason ? 365 operate in the gambling industry. if they don't fancy the risk that goes with that they can fk off and work for Uber.
GC issued them a licence to offer gambling services to the british public. if they are no longer prepared to do this, without good reason, the licence should be revoked.
You would think they would say "civil matter" like they do when any punter complains about anything, but it looks like denise said "you know how much tax I pay" to someone or other.
I've had the same email, 'nature of your business' obviously refers to 'you only bet on horses/sports and don't partake in our slots/gaming' I presume?
Just wondering, has anyone on here had any joy in trying to get their account back with B365 ? - doubtful I know bust just in case someone might have had any success, cheers.
don't waste your time john. absolutely no chance.
does your neighbours hamster have an a/c with them ??
does your neighbours hamster have an a/c with them ??
Get a friend to open account, pass on log in details.
Works better if they don't live next door.
Works better if they don't live next door.
Oh, and don't fund it from your bank account..
And they will need to supply kyc details too.
have to use a vpn as well to hide your ip address, which is an issue as denise doesn't like people hiding their ip addresses
Don't know why they bother after all the money they've made from their customers.
earns £583,561 a day.
lying on the beach somewhere sh!tting herself that two members of the same household are riding her for a £10 free bet.
lying on the beach somewhere sh!tting herself that two members of the same household are riding her for a £10 free bet.
Dec 19, 2023 -- 11:37AM, hulk23 wrote:
have to use a vpn as well to hide your ip address, which is an issue as denise doesn't like people hiding their ip addresses
What vpn are you using? With Nord VPN the site blocks me with a "Sorry You have been Blocked" cloudfare ray error message apparently triggered when too many connections come from one source (presumably the Nord server I am connected to at the time).
blocks every vpl ive tried
im still restricted to as much as i want despite being well in front
bog 6 runners 3 places would probably work if done at random and as early as poss. likewise 11/12 runners 4 places if there are a couple of roughies that cant win. ive taken bog 12/1 that won at 33 so not beating prices. not after-timing either as i put it up here
im still restricted to as much as i want despite being well in front
bog 6 runners 3 places would probably work if done at random and as early as poss. likewise 11/12 runners 4 places if there are a couple of roughies that cant win. ive taken bog 12/1 that won at 33 so not beating prices. not after-timing either as i put it up here
I’ve tried a couple of free VPN’s whilst on holiday. Neither of them could get me onto their site. Odd that they seem to be able to detect them, yet you can easily bet on your phone with them.
I'm restricted like many but haven't been closed but I have an ante post football bet still very much live so I guess they can't close me,however as the bet was struck with a bet credit I had before I was restricted I would be expecting some funny business from them should the bet win.
earns £583,561 a day.
try £5 at 9/4 the cnt offers you 13 pence
try £5 at 9/4 the cnt offers you 13 pence
Thanks so much for all the replies guys, appreciated. It looks hopeless then but so poor on their part after over 20 yesrs with them!
ruthless fkrs john.
they're not your mate, if your gambling doesn't fit the bill you're getting the email.
they're not your mate, if your gambling doesn't fit the bill you're getting the email.
Coates "earns" 400 million a year. About 1.1 million per DAY. But casual punters can't get a 10er on at 4s. Something seriously wrong here. They need to be ruthlessy investigated by someone who knows what to look for. Where's all this loot coming from? It's so bad now the crooks don't want you losing money YOUR way they want you losing it THEIR way.
Ive had a number of accounts with said firm closed/restricted. After retiring i moved house and changed banks .I opened a new account and am still able to use it .I expect i will get an email soon,
if and when i do ,that will be me finished with gambling
if and when i do ,that will be me finished with gambling
if you're closed down without just cause you should be able to object to their license. far too heavily weighted in their favour - you had £3 on a horse at 5/2, and it won at 13/8. please don't gamble with us anymore, traders decision. wtf ??
GC should be on them like a ton of bricks. we granted you a license to offer gambling services to the british public. it now appears you're not. licence revoked.
sulk has a liesense to change spelling with every post. lore of averages
OP has done well to be with them for over 30 years, only founded in 2000!! Btw hulk no bookmaker is obliged to take a bet or provide an account, closing restricted accounts is simple housekeeping alongside dormant accounts.
what a complete p@sstake this is there more bothered about affordability checks were the £20 deposit as come from not a f@cking murmur about any of these c@nts taking a bet its about time the gambling commission gets on to these c@nts to start taking a reasonable bet all good wanting people to sign a petition to keep the game going for the ar@e lickers no mention of helping the punter within reason apart from the online casinos thats robbing all the mugs etc etc is there ?? merry xmas all the clever f@ckers ha
Also if there was a petition ref to punters being unfairly closed blocked restricted due to beating the sp by a fraction it would put the affordability petition to shame all one way n we all no which way dont we ?
I used to keep roughly £50 in the account and have 1 or 2 mug bets a year to access there football streaming as i think its the best site for streaming a large number of leagues and i got culled last week whereby i was assured my £50 would be refunded, so a week later i checked and no refund had occurred causing me to get annoyed to chase it up then i was finally refunded 24 hrs after chasing it up but they just had to take the Michael at the end absolutely no justification to hold on to that money when they had the correct bank details confirmed by myself and confirmed when it would be refunded.
Laughably i had been heavily restricted for the past several years for having the temerity to win a few horse races a good few years back as these were lucky wins as i know very little about horse racing so i was reduced to peanuts for every sport because of that,its just a joke that this lot are allowed to cream in millions from there casino and gaming activities and mug accas yet restrict or ban average punters who suddenly might win a little bit.
Laughably i had been heavily restricted for the past several years for having the temerity to win a few horse races a good few years back as these were lucky wins as i know very little about horse racing so i was reduced to peanuts for every sport because of that,its just a joke that this lot are allowed to cream in millions from there casino and gaming activities and mug accas yet restrict or ban average punters who suddenly might win a little bit.
exactly roache all this publicity sign this sign that to keep the industry going devastation to the prize money if affordability checks happen ffs get onto bookies to take a chance ie take a bet dont rely on the crackheads doing the lot on online gaming /roulette its all a game of chance well all the bookies ffs take a chance on what was set out to be many many years ago rather than just rely on fleecing the online slots etc etc never heard of anyone shouting out for bookmakers taking a bet in which there licence was issued for c@nts
The Minimum Bet Laws (MBLs) are a blessing for Australian punters, especially the successful ones! Without minimum betting laws, online bookies could pick and choose which wagers they would accept.
Whilst the limits depend on the state or territory, the MBLs guarantees that Australian punters can bet on all races with all Wagering Service Providers (WSPs).
How minimum bet laws are calculated is based on the amount of profit you can make is after the stake is returned to you. This is somewhat like the old days of fractional odds, so for example, if a horse is $5 and the limit is $2,000 you can place a $500 fixed odds bet on that horse to win $2,500 where $500 is your original stake and $2,000 is your profit.
The laws are as follows:
“Approved Australian off-course wagering operators are required to lay the odds displayed for fixed odds bets after 9:00am on race-day for thoroughbred day meetings or 2:00pm on race-day for thoroughbred night meetings to the limits below”
(9am onwards for all meetings in QLD and the ACT)
What are the Minimum Bet Limit Rules
Provided the wagering service provider’s annual turnover is over $5m, bookmakers must not:
Refuse to accept a fixed odds bet.
Close a person’s account.
Refuse to open a person’s account.
Place any restrictions on a person’s account.
Refuse to lay a fixed odds bet to any person when those fixed odds are publicly displayed.
Laying lesser odds to a person than those publicly displayed.
Perform any other act or refuse to do an act in order to avoid these provisions.
Racing NSW Minimum Bet Limits
The key points of the minimum bet limit conditions are as follows:
Wagering operators are not to take actions such as closing a punter’s accounts, refusing to open a punter’s account or placing restrictions on a punter’s account solely to avoid complying with the minimum bet limit conditions. However, wagering operators are still able to take such actions for legitimate reasons including undisclosed bowlers (persons betting on behalf of other persons), responsible gambling, fraudulent activity, money-laundering and other integrity related reasons such as the punter being warned off or disqualified.
Wagering operators are required to lay the odds displayed for fixed odds bets to the limits below. The minimum bet limit has been set at levels which are considered to be fair and balanced. Those levels were requested by most punters (although some professional punters requested higher levels) yet are still higher than what was requested by most wagering operators.
For Australian Wagering Operators with Net Assessable Turnover on NSW Thoroughbred races greater than or equal to $5 million
For Australian Wagering Operators with Net Assessable Turnover on NSW Thoroughbred races greater than or equal to $5 million
Whilst the limits depend on the state or territory, the MBLs guarantees that Australian punters can bet on all races with all Wagering Service Providers (WSPs).
How minimum bet laws are calculated is based on the amount of profit you can make is after the stake is returned to you. This is somewhat like the old days of fractional odds, so for example, if a horse is $5 and the limit is $2,000 you can place a $500 fixed odds bet on that horse to win $2,500 where $500 is your original stake and $2,000 is your profit.
The laws are as follows:
“Approved Australian off-course wagering operators are required to lay the odds displayed for fixed odds bets after 9:00am on race-day for thoroughbred day meetings or 2:00pm on race-day for thoroughbred night meetings to the limits below”
(9am onwards for all meetings in QLD and the ACT)
What are the Minimum Bet Limit Rules
Provided the wagering service provider’s annual turnover is over $5m, bookmakers must not:
Refuse to accept a fixed odds bet.
Close a person’s account.
Refuse to open a person’s account.
Place any restrictions on a person’s account.
Refuse to lay a fixed odds bet to any person when those fixed odds are publicly displayed.
Laying lesser odds to a person than those publicly displayed.
Perform any other act or refuse to do an act in order to avoid these provisions.
Racing NSW Minimum Bet Limits
The key points of the minimum bet limit conditions are as follows:
Wagering operators are not to take actions such as closing a punter’s accounts, refusing to open a punter’s account or placing restrictions on a punter’s account solely to avoid complying with the minimum bet limit conditions. However, wagering operators are still able to take such actions for legitimate reasons including undisclosed bowlers (persons betting on behalf of other persons), responsible gambling, fraudulent activity, money-laundering and other integrity related reasons such as the punter being warned off or disqualified.
Wagering operators are required to lay the odds displayed for fixed odds bets to the limits below. The minimum bet limit has been set at levels which are considered to be fair and balanced. Those levels were requested by most punters (although some professional punters requested higher levels) yet are still higher than what was requested by most wagering operators.
For Australian Wagering Operators with Net Assessable Turnover on NSW Thoroughbred races greater than or equal to $5 million
For Australian Wagering Operators with Net Assessable Turnover on NSW Thoroughbred races greater than or equal to $5 million
^^^^ this, needs to be brought in here asap.
the scalping is out of control
the scalping is out of control
if you apply for a bookmakers licence, get it granted, then scalp anyone who bets on anything other than the casino (meaning nobody can bet on horses) you have effectively gained a casino licence.
otherwise known as a licence to print money.
otherwise known as a licence to print money.
It is a pity that there are no longer MP's that liked a bet like Robin Cook or Alec Salmond, todays MP's like bookies hospitality to much to rock the boat.The Racing Post is just a bookies mouthpiece so apart from a token moan every few months
hulk doesn't seem to know what "scalping" means in gambling/trading, which is ironic as it was what he claimed "£108 man" was doing to him before he changed to claiming that "£108 man" was not only identifying def losers but, in defiance of the laws of supply and demand, shortening their prices by asking for greater odds than available.
Duffy. They will never close you completely...just leave the casino option permenentely open just in case. I used to do loads of football with them, which lasted a year. One too many two up bonuses landed for their liking. So since may 2023 i am only left with on line fruit machines from them. They are not abookmaker at all
OP has done well to be with them for over 30 years, only founded in 2000!! Btw hulk no bookmaker is obliged to take a bet or provide an account, closing restricted accounts is simple housekeeping alongside dormant accounts. ok not quite 30 years , but feels like that
no bookmaker is obliged to take a bet or provide an account, closing restricted accounts is simple housekeeping
yes. that's the problem.
i'll re-post this, you maybe missed it -
Provided the wagering service provider’s annual turnover is over $5m, bookmakers must not:
Refuse to accept a fixed odds bet.
Close a person’s account.
Refuse to open a person’s account.
Place any restrictions on a person’s account.
Refuse to lay a fixed odds bet to any person when those fixed odds are publicly displayed.
Laying lesser odds to a person than those publicly displayed.
Perform any other act or refuse to do an act in order to avoid these provisions.
that's the way it should be here also. but the GC and all concerned are in bed with the bookies
yes. that's the problem.
i'll re-post this, you maybe missed it -
Provided the wagering service provider’s annual turnover is over $5m, bookmakers must not:
Refuse to accept a fixed odds bet.
Close a person’s account.
Refuse to open a person’s account.
Place any restrictions on a person’s account.
Refuse to lay a fixed odds bet to any person when those fixed odds are publicly displayed.
Laying lesser odds to a person than those publicly displayed.
Perform any other act or refuse to do an act in order to avoid these provisions.
that's the way it should be here also. but the GC and all concerned are in bed with the bookies
However, wagering operators are still able to take such actions for legitimate reasons including undisclosed bowlers (persons betting on behalf of other persons), responsible gambling, fraudulent activity, money-laundering and other integrity related reasons such as the punter being warned off or disqualified.
and that. there is a place for these gubbings. but it should only be for the reasons listed above, not our traders have noticed you've been with us for a while and despite numerous attempts we've still not been able to get you hooked on the casino, so goodbye.
and that. there is a place for these gubbings. but it should only be for the reasons listed above, not our traders have noticed you've been with us for a while and despite numerous attempts we've still not been able to get you hooked on the casino, so goodbye.
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