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one of most impressive hurdles debuts i've seen
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Just beat a load of trees didn't it
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It beat claimers.
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Nice for those on 40+ Antepost. Hasn't beaten much but never off the bridle so can't ask for more than that at this stage
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It's December 1st
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Must be a world beater? Henderson said he has another 10 as good at home and he did not mean world beaters.
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you always want a horse that is visually impressive to have beaten nowt....beat decent horses and everyone twigs.
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and Angela R what about it's jumping pretty mindblowing first time out imo.
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I could jump hurdles well at 10mph.
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Wouldn't be for me over 2m.
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Can't see it being quicker enough for the Supreme personally, would be amazed if Mullins doesn't have something to beat it.
Last year the second coming won the same race |
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yeah I agree. It was the horse I was impressed with rather than race target. But stayers can go well in the supreme although it would help if the race was on new course like the Triumph.
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I do not see Jeriko as a Supreme horse. It's either The Neptune or Albert Bartlett. Personally, he's definitely not as impressive or slick as Willmount, his stablemate; 9 here is preposterous imo.
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one of most impressive hurdles debuts i've seen
with the two Chris Gordon donkeys finishing right behind it ... |
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followed by a p nicholls ...but i've already said I don't give a feck what's behind.
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nicholls been sending his for pipe openers all season.
good chance centara will come on a lot for the run. |
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LOL Howard, Quixall Crossett could have been trained by Nichols but it would still be Quixall so basing a horses ability on a trainers name is hardly scientific!! HTH
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And Gordon could have trained Frankel
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I never get "but it only beat trees" bit, it was visually impressive and should improve again, the fact it only beat 2 Chris Gordon horses imho will have no bearing how far it can progress.
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The firm going 4s,they his sponsor?
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Anymore from Hendo in the near future? Jeriko is definitely not for me in The Supreme 2024. I may contemplate a bet for him in The Neptune or Albert Bartlett.
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how many fours are they going?
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Give up.How many?
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I say most pro gamblers would be able to watch an unraced horse be ridden alone round the track and be able to put a rough ( h'cap ) mark on it. After all people pay massive money for breeze ups what have they beat ?
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the clock
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Most trainers have an idea believe it or not Howard, so if Nicky has another 10 as good in his opinion are they all potential graded winners in his mind iyo?
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don't care cag. Make money on my own opinions.
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first few spins...you wouldn't have given sixpence for him ( Nicky on CH )
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You can definitely infer a horse's ability against poor oppo 1st time up. My fav one was Sir Percy winning 1st time out at Goodwood. Was a g1 horse right there and than. Baeed another obvious one.
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There were probably a few last year who had a similar opinion on Jet Powered in the same race, also trained by Nicky and learned it pays to be cautious?
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yeah cider. Ist run terrible conditions but after his 2nd run I said to myself that's one of the best horses I've ever seen. Didn't care what he beat ( Frankel )
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My own personal opinion is that Jeriko didn't especially stand out there, tho Nico obviously tried to make it look as comfortable as possible. Was exactly Constitution Hill like first time up.
The trainer does make a difference as the top ones usually know what they have got. Hendo has had enough of them. |
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#wasn't
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So, does he send Willmount or Jehrico to the Tolworth? Where does the other one go?
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I believe Hendo hinted The Tolworth for Willmount but, the venue and/or date has changed; I believe it's at Aintree of Boxing Date. And, Nico cannot be at Kempton (Shishkin/King George) and Aintree (Willmouth). Hence, he'd be looking for a race in January.
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Nicky mentioned the Boxing Day race at Kempton as the likely target. What he beat today were 105 rated at best so it taught us absolutely nothing about his ability although he did nothing wrong.
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If you're a backer you don't want "us" ( everybody ) taught about horses though. I know you look at things like an historian. But for backers if a horse beats good horses /has good form and /or records a very good timefigure you really do struggle for a value bet.
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That is a weird post Howard, cannot fathom what exactly you are trying to say?
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Btw Jet Powered who won the same race last year runs at 1340 hrs today, the caution I advised re the hype punters are giving yesterdays winner was that he was beaten at 2/7 next time out. Not only that but backing yesterdays winner for a race he may not even run in at even the 12s before the race was an example of punters being sucked into hype over substance.
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you are "Against the crowd " as Alan Potts would say. Other pro backers have said form and information are punters great false gods. Phil Bull himself said many of his very best bets were on horses that ran a stinker LTO.
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