any good diets out there ?

The thing with "fad diets" is that they are not sustainable.

Just a quick fix.

will take that on board brandy...

cheers for that.

The easy way:
High fat diet – no carbs. Eat as much meat and fish as you like, guaranteed to lose weight.
But no carbs. That includes fruit, and alcohol.

Or the opposite, all carbs and no fat. Veg oil is fat, and all animal products and fish are fat.

Both diets work to lose weight quickly.

The high fat diet will give you heart disease. As it did with it's main promoter Dr Robert Atkins. Author of The Atkin's Diet.
But not in the short term.

The high carb diet consisting of mainly starch, is sustainable. Add a bit of fruit and veg.
You'll be fine.

cheers Dr.

Eat less. Move more. Piece of piss!

i once lost 24lb in 3 weeks on a diet of fizz and menthol oily rags and almost nothing else as part of a bet among 10 people

and finished 4th

s.kenbo 22 Nov 23 19:06 
Eat less. Move more. Piece of piss!

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i'm going to try that tbh.

Hibby, did you not do Science at schoool?

i am trying a fasting approach and it seems to be doing ok.

i only eat between the hours of 12 noon and 6pm and have reduced what i eat in that period.

trying to walk at least 15,000 steps per day

will let you know how it goes.

been doing it for 3 days now and my belly defo seems to have gone down slightly

I lost  7 stone diabetic and heart problems I was warned I wouldn’t last long, but I struggle with food every day, I don’t have any carbs bread pizza rice pasta potatoes crisps and the like it’s not good but discipline wavers and cave in but get back into line quickly just been  checked for diabetic again and I’m not thats 11 years, my diabetic friend has lost both legs and just had heart attack so I do have a choice but it’s fk hard

how far would 15k steps be The Dragon ?

i did physics for a bit swifty...

chemistry passed me by tbh...

one regret about school was not going down the arty f@rty road tbh...

drawing/painting is something i wish i could do.

jeesus christ know all...

bit of a wake up call your mate losing both legs tbh.

Hibby, if you've not got a downstairs toilet and you do the cabbage soup diet you'll soon find out what 15,000 steps looks like.

i'm going to try the daily run and only eat bran flakes for breakfast and lunch diet tbh swifty.

obviously the daily run will have to be a gradual increase job...

round the block for starters and see how the knees hold up.

That's the trouble with running and bad knees. You need to get yourself some Nike airs!

will give it a go swifty...

definitely need to take action now tho...

been munching too many cakes recently.

Cut down on wheat and sugar or everything else is tinkering around the edges

I have gone from 17st 8lbs in August 2022 to 14st 2lbs this morning on No Carb / Low Carb. Eggs, bacon, sausages tomato.

Scrambled eggs, boiled eggs etc in the morning although I don't eat until about 12 now most days now.
Chicken salad, corned beef, Spicy chicken pieces, kebabs from iceland for dinner.

Steak, chicken , beef etc roasts for tea with cauliflower, sprouts, broccoli. Mince, onions and gravy.
I have Greek yogurt with nuts and frozen berries, all cheeses and salted peanuts. I don't drink anymore but have Pepsi Max through the week and at weekends.

I am 6ft 2in so now feel great for my age and just stick to it.

If you start and are strict and if anyone has it to lose the weight will fall off in the first few months, it gets harder as time goes on. If you LOVE meat, steaks, chicken, eggs, cheese, nuts etc give it a go.

cut out all sugar..all processed food..the key is exercise...its not a quick fix..its a lifestyle change.

when covid started i was just under 16st...next 2 mth i was walking 3 miles ev day and eating very sensible..probably 1000 cals a day..i lost 2st in 8 weeks...weight crept back on next few yrs and i was bout 15 1/2st jusrt before last xmas..lost about 10 lbs 2-3 weeks leading up to xmas..put it back on over xmas 2 weeks.lost weight again beginning of yr..apr-sept was fluctuating between 14st 7lb - 14 st 10lb..put half a st on last 6 weeks just by eating an odd indians and few treats..now 15st 2lbs..going to do 3 weeks from dec 1st of only chicken and veg.I can put weight on just by looking at it..so can my son and daughters..everyone has different genetics..i generally walk the dog a mile ev morn..not so much last few weeks as the fields i walk have become sodden and i run 2 miles ev wed and sat..pisses me rite off how quickly i can gain weight,have to be really discipline to keep healthy and a normal weight..especially in todays junk food society.

Even a kebab from the chippy without the bread but with all the salad and chilli is ok for me.. No chips though..

Would like to emphasis again, how important it is NOT to do these no carbs etc diets.

These sort of diets are great in the short term but it is not how you can keep weight off in the long term.

You can not live the rest of your life not eating carbs. 

Just eat healthy, keep active and slowly lose weight.

Then keep to a healthy lifestyle.

Simples.

simples can be difficult if you're simple tho.

Also a brisk walk up a hill is just as affective as a run.

You do not need to run to lose weight. Unless you are going for a 10 mile + run.

A calorie deficit diet will help you lose weight.
A hire protein diet will help burn fat.
A daily gym session will turn that protein into muscle.

Best of luck to you hibby

I like to eat a tub of veg every morning to help drop my bowel.

You do not need to run to lose weight. = any form of excercise burns calories.

A hire protein diet will help burn fat = its simple..body burns fat when you use more calories than than you take on board.

hire = higher*

The history of dietetics can be traced as far back as the writings of Homer, Plato and Hippocrates in ancient Greece.

Been done for 3,000 years and people still make money out of stupid people, repeat and rinse

As my dad used to say if you need to diet, you Definity got too much money.

I cut out the booze since May, been the main reason for 2 stones lost in 6 months
Just have a couple of Guinness zero cans per evening to substitute for not having a drink... It's got a nice taste
Still got another 2 stone to go, hopefully by next May
Also, cutting out the booze makes me sleep a lot better

Well done, queen mother drank everyday till 103, it's what you do day to day what counts, not rocket science.

Mate lost both legs diabetic and devastating mine was type 2  his type 1 but a warning for us all, the doctors diabetic nurse tested me when I lost my weight and found losing all the weight I was not diabetic no more but still insisted I take all the medication 3 tablets a day as they don’t want you to come of
The drugs as the surgery get paid to subscribe them from the big drugs companies, so it’s in there interests to keep you on them they didn’t like it one bit and I was the first one in a big practice who had ever become undiabetic and they didn’t want others knowing you could beat it,that was 11 years ago but attitudes change and it’s a bit more normal now

Brandyontherocks

You have a very good point about the sustainability of a low/no carb life style but in my case of losing nearly four stone it has worked for me and I have never felt better. To be honest the weight comes off in the first six months, I have mostly chicken and I'm not really hungry until dinner time. One of my son's lost three stone and also looks great, we are going to Royal Ascot for his 40th and have a bet that he is the same weight by then.

As ladycarla says, it's not rocket science... to work out that less calories in and more exercise will make you lose weight...
The method you use just varies the speed of loss I guess
My weight loss has not been as drastic as some on here but I'm happy with a slow steady approach, as opposed to my gambling mentality of "all in"
It's a delight to be able to get into trousers (and shirts) that have been too tight before (and me too tight to throw them out)

Gl all with any diet you choose

Low carbs, no sugar .. and avoid doctors aka drug pushers

brandy...

i tend to think eat sensibly and exercise is a good idea...

and the way forward for ME...

i went for a decent walk last night...

i went for a 10 minute run at 7am this morning...

i have had a bowl of cereal of bran flakes and corn flakes (50/50) and half a chopped banana...

just about to have a cup of tea with skimmed milk (no sugar)...

does that sound reasonable ?

i'm going to do another run before lunchtime and either a walk or a run after racing tonight...

and the plan will be to increase the length of run over time...

considering i've been doing no exercise recently and not been eating too wisely i reckon that's a good start at least.

when covid started i was just under 16st...next 2 mth i was walking 3 miles ev day and eating very sensible..probably 1000 cals a day..i lost 2st in 8 weeks...

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that's the sort of thing i'm looking at Mr.Hunt...

cheers.

get a tenniser, go to park,throw ball as far as you can,run as hard as you can for ball.repeat till cant run any more.repeat every day after that and watch the weight disappear.and your coat will be nice and shiny too.

Hibby,

Just swap your daily ten pints of heavy for a fragrant low alcohol glass of blue nun. That will do the trick

i take in very little alcohol these days Celtic Warrior.

i think its about 5 miles HH

HH

I have recently retired so i now have more time to work on the weight loss.

I used to be car work car bed and eat and drink more than i should.

I am now hoping to really impact on my weight and fitness.

15,000 steps , regular swimming and fasting

Trying to cut down on the red wine also but i find that hard

at my heaviest i was 16st 7 -height 5 11.

Currently 15st 13 and aged 65.

will post on here how i go

Exercise bike in the spare room works for me , only a couple of miles a day plus 100 expander chair stretches is enough to keep the fatigue away , been doing that for 3 years and my legs in particular are solid as a rock.

Figured that buying a real bike wouldn't work as there would be too many easy excuses to give it a miss on too many days but stepping into the bedroom is an easy 10 mins.

6ft and 13:08 at the moment but ideal weight for me is 13:02 so looking to lose 6lb before Xmas.


Good luck Hibby ( give that peanut butter & honey a swerve imo )

good luck with it The Dragon...

post on here how it's going...

15k steps about 5 miles...

cheers.

will be giving the peanut butter and honey a swerve (at least until i get the belly under control) Hayden...

i think running and sensible eating will be a big help tbh...

will give it a go anyway.

I've put on 2 stone/13kg this year. It just creeps up on you, especially when you love a good takeaway late at night

I would say with bad knees you should look into walking more and eating a cleaner diet. Easy to say, not that easy to implement if you have a sweet tooth !

You need to expend 3,500 more calories for a pound of fat which is a 500 calorie daily deficit for the week.

To not diminish your metabolic rate you want to mix it up but keep to a 3,500 deficit for the week i.e. 1,250 on 3 days and 3,000 on 4 days will easily get you that if you're getting 10,000 steps in, doing weight resistance twice a week, and are an average height male.

Like others said, high protein is good (keeps you satiated and you burn more calories digesting it). Fibre also good for similar reasons.

Any crash diet will see you lose 5-10bs in a matter of days but 90% of that is water weight and will come back on the moment your glycogen (which is 3 parts water) is restored.

Slow and steady is the way forward. Lifestyle changes. I might try and lose 2kg a month and see if by next summer this 13kg has gone or at least hasn't got worse Good luck Hibby and others

no sugar no meat no ( added ) salt works for me.  Bread pasta tomatoes peas onions carrots eggs cheese is about it. Oh and one can of lager per day.

bread with no marg/butter and no milk

missed out potatoes ( mashed with olive oil )

for mths earlier this yr i was only eating 700 cals per day apart from a sunday dinner and pudding at my mothers on a sunday..i was walking the dog a mile ev morn and running 2 miles ev wed and sun and was maintaining more or less the same weight..everyone has a different metabolism..

Apart from regular healthy meals(breakfast,lunch etc)if you feel hungry between meals eat some fruit.

Also I would recommend Ryvita instead of bread.

Dangleflaps must be a little 'un to get by on 700 calories a day.

fruit as a snack sounds good FELTFAIR.

6ft 14st 7lb then..15st noo

rico's lost half his body weight since giving up the extra large donners with chips on the way home from Newcastle / Hexham / Catterick / Sedgefield.

down to a measly 17 stone

6ft 14st 7lb then..15st noo

In your dreams if you can't lose weight on 700 calories a day.

ive no reason to lie DR...i fluck chew hated between 14st 7 -- 14st 10lb may--sept..on 700 cals a day... banana with a coffee at 10am ish..half a tin of heinz chicken noodle soup at office (140 cals a tin)..and a 500 cal balanced prep meal or a stir fry when got home.

Should be eating 2000 calories a day, minimum,  Rico

burns the calories off by running away from people trying to assassinate him (for absolutely no reason ) ...

comment isnt needed in the context of this fred hulk.

Cortisol levels or other hormones might be way out of whack not to lose weight on such a restriction. You can get a simple Metbolic Rate test done via a breathaliser at a few places which lets you know how much calories you expend in a day if you were literally in a comatose state. Over 5 months on such a restriction it's hard to comprehend that you didn't lose weight (not suggesting you aren't telling the truth, 100% believe you, just is a very rare scenario).

i can gain weight very easily..i recall in early 2000's i went to dublin for weekend..left 7am fri morn and 15st..weighed myself 10pm sun nite at home and 16st 3lb.

Bloody hell R-D, didn't know Guinness weighed so much. I only put on 8lbs after an all inc holiday this summer. I don't drink nowhere near as much as years ago when I would have about ten pints a night on holiday. Bacardi and pepsi max does the no carb trick now..

A lot of fat f@ckers on here by the looks of it.

is your missus here?

As Rico said, we're all made differently. I can try and put weight on and fail whereas others only have to look at a biscuit. Regardless of weight, be healthy, exercise and what's to worry about ?

was at toby carv for a meal tues nite with a m8 and his missus ive known for over 40yrs..he was 11st then and 11st now.

"Can't lose weight"!!!!! Last seen at a Toby Carvery

its simple regular exercise and you can eat what you like...

Minnie Caldwell and  Ena Sharples woulda luved this thread.

ttt

Go for a 5 mile walk before you break your fast. This will use the excess fat that creates disease. (nap)

I do not jog or run except in my school days; I played loads of football. Now in my ascending years I find the daily short walks (sometimes merely round the corner and back) helps to keep me mentally fresh, fitter and lesser belly fat. Once or twice every week I'd walk to the shops (about 40 mins away), or park the car 1/2 way - I've tended to buy too much to carry.

I think most important of all only eat when one is hungry; I'm lucky I find sweet or fatty foods too rich and sickening eg chocolates, pastries and chips (maybe once every few weeks).

But, I must admit it's getting increasingly more difficult to stay trim and not ache getting out of bed every morning. Even washing one's face and hair bending down in a bathtub will require a short warm-up of stretching to loosen-up the old limbs.

Also zero milk and sugar. Trust me your tea will taste much much better after 2-3 weeks Heil

Water on tour shredded wheat wheat becomes delicious after a week or so heil

Impossible you sound like you're 95.

Nov 25, 2023 -- 7:33PM, layingisthewayforward wrote:

Impossible you sound like you're 95.

Explain?

UPDATE ALERT

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started jogging today...

long road ahead.

Power walk or decent pace is easier on the joints,trust me I do three miles per day hibb …

Food intake is just as important…..

that is a concern tbh aceform...

will see how it goes jogging wise...

oh food intake very important...

no doubt at all.

Jogging banging the knees,ankles,hips etc

Unless you head to the beach at portobello but tar and hard surfaces….bin…

i'll see what the lassie at the massage parlour says tbh aceform.

Lassie….massage…good luck hibb lol

You don’t hear lassie being used much now hibb…lassies and laddies…..

IMO any form of exercise will do , but the most important thing is to progress at your own pace and want to do it . Its useless jogging too far or too fast then not wanting to repeat because everything aches next day , then you still do it and end up injured . As am sure has been said , follow something like Couch to 10K and if you feel its too easy , then its perfect . FWIW I used to do running and triathlons plus sundry other sports to decent levels , still average 55-60 miles a week of mainly walking (4 dogs ) but still compete at top level dog agility , where I have to ' sprint ' a bit , against all ages (at 77 ) , still have goals ...however unrealisic , and cud also lose a few lbs .

Swimming pool nearby you’ve knocked it…..best form..

cheers paulo...

good advice i reckon...

i'm starting with a wee jog and build up slowly aceform..

see where it takes me and go from there...

i'm not putting myself under any pressure or anything like that but hopefully by mid summer i'll notice some sort of improvement in fitness etc.

Rishi sunak has nothing from Sunday teatime to Tuesday tea time fasting and no wonder he can’t run the country, I’ve tried fasting 600 calls a day twice a week it does work but you feel weak, I struggle with food everyday,  no carbs or the like been doing it 13 years now but I’m no longer fat lost 7 stone after dr said you’ve got 10 years on 3 tablets a day and diabetic, no longer diabetic but they won’t take me of the diabetic list as the practise gets paid and forever getting me to go back on the tablets as they get paid to prescribe and keep you on them

FWIW , get on the coeliac-diet imo.
I was diagnosed coelic many years ago.
Went on the gluten-free diet and the weight fell off.
Also, I didn't worry about how much I ate.

HH. I have lost 17 pounds in january from 218..fat bastard territory i know.

No alcohol, survived on zero alcohol beer which is very good these days
Breakfast skyr yogurt with blueberries
Dinner either two egg mushroom omelette with 15g sliver of cheddar or miso souo with tofu and spinach
Tea normal stuff up to 800 cals. No skin from sunday roast chook limited toast pots
No bread
No potatoes other than above
Only three mealtimes a day. No snacking AT ALL

Limit to 1500 cals and loads of walking and gym trips


I use the app LOSE IT. Thoroughly recommend it

cheers and well done Celtic warrior...

definitely leaving bread well alone...

don't drink at all these days (alcohol obviously)...

i just need to cut out the 'snacking' and along with the running i have started i think i'm on the right road tbh.

Unless you have an allergy the general rule should be what goes in should equal what comes out or is metabolised. Energy, protein including essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals (including salt if you sweat a lot). Most disorders can be cured by having more or less of one of those things. I was a farmer and a trained animal nutritionist and it amazes me that we can predict very accurately how much to feed a pig to make it reach a required weight with a desired lean meat % but we still debate how to do the same with humans.