Vauban

I've got to admit Moore is riding much better this season and most of last too; I do not know the improved form, the difference is palpable. Prior he was diabolical esp at Ascot. So many of his fancied rides mostly favs lost because Moore was caught napping at the start. Also, his fav passage up the inside next to the rail was repeatedly met with traffic resembling those at rush hour in Central London.

A combination. It took him a long time to fully recover from that significant injury he got in the stalls, in my opinion. Definitely changed mindset and riding more aggressively. And, AOB is in a purple patch, a very strong group of horses currently, after a quiet period.

One thing you have to eradicate from the brain when forming past vs present opinions is nostalgia , which i believe plenty are swayed by in all sports.

And recency bias ;)

8/1 eachway ant tea pose imo

I think given his exploits in Australia (won their big 3 plus a whole host of others) Ryan would’ve had his pick of pretty much whoever he liked here so sticking with Vauban is a positive.

Just notice who that slippery so and so Mullins got to ride the other one…Zac Purton lol no1 jockey in Hong Kong.

So maybe Absurde is the one to be one.

Happy enough with Vauban though…they deserve it after Frankie messed up the ride on Max Dynamite.

I think all this comparison stuff is an age thing , as with music comparing sixties , eighties and so on , people tend to favour when they were in their own perceived prime or whenever their best life memories happened.

Yes and no. Technology has killed the need for humans to be genuinely gifted in a lot of areas. For example, bo rap just wouldn't get made now, all by a machine. Who knows what genuine AI will do.

Yes, you expect sportsmen to improve over time as equipment, techniques, diet, sports science & training methods improve. Also, new records that are set then become the new targets that people aim for.

123 still knocking Ryan Moore.

Fair enough Jumpers have a brilliant record in the Race That Stops A Nation but i will be laying for plenty at 9-4.

Race That Stops A Nation ffs....There was 40,000 when i was there.

'acey', I hope it's worth your while to be up so early to 'lay' a horse running the other side of the world. May I ask what quantity in mind?

No

Lol

acey, Bank Holiday in Victoria I thought.

Not sure it is buddy.....Dont believe that Race That Stops A Nation sh1te...They probably wont be that interested in Sydney.

I mean remember when we used to think The Epsom Derby was the best Horserace in The World...Absolute garbage.

Acey How can you lay at 3.25 ?

He Can not lay on BF 9/4 he is full of sh!t....
price trading around 4.3 currently

For a Guy being on here since 02 Have to agree with you Matt

Hey d1ckheads look at my original post.

Lowest Matched is 53.82 at 3.6 since the market open. 9/4 yeah right WAC

Unfortunate Sevey theirs a few muppets on here f4arty Hulk Acey etc all after timers and Full of it.
Have to Agree with that big mouth Rico Some right losers on here.

Oi be nice

Acdc where can I back this at 3.25

last favourite to win the race was 2013

I give you Mugs the benefit of my vast experience show a bit of reshpect ffs.

I mean if i decide to high tail it out of here the place is finished ffs.

Can't even Spell the Word

I have it as a place lay…..1st 2.   Odds on

Where can I bet this Horse at Top of The Head

Stands out to me. good draw, great weight, fast going, 2nd best jockey on the planet.....
4.7 currently on here....you Idiots like to lay me around 5.1 please oblige me.....Acey all mouth no trousers as per usual...
If im wrong im wrong...but got plenty of readies after pointing you all the right direction at Santa Anita...
He's pretty Good this Mattie

^^ as good a reason as any to lay it, and then lay it again

2nd best jockey on the planet

be #1 when Mat finds out Ann Stokell's retired ...

Twitter saying it’s non runner

Twitter saying it’s non runner

This is "the race that stops a nation".There is 18 race meetings taking place in Australia tomorrow. I've a small interest in last years winner Gold Trip. Good luck all.

Got to have a great chance. Going to be a great race, favourite of the year.

If you use a VPN selecting an Australian router and you switch your betfair account address to a Victoria post code then you can log into BF Australia and lay Vauban at 3.25 instead of the 4.1 for us Brits.

Just remember to factor in the GBP-AUD rate for your trade.

Freeeee Moneyyyy

Backing the other Willie Mullins horse..... huge plunge on it.

Lester would of pick the winner, moore not Lester

On Vauban with a saver on Absurde....In Mullins We Trust

acey new (again).

Mullins pair no excuses Given every chance.....Winner Hacks up (Without a Fight) Well done winners.
Well done if you laid at 9/4

Thanks for your money mugs

Acey post you tenner lay

Mourinho_of_gambling07 Nov 23 04:17Joined: 14 Jun 12 | Topic/replies: 214 | Blogger: Mourinho_of_gambling's blog
Thanks for your money mugs

Post your grand lay

wasn't 9/4 Acey, it was 5.9 as they were going in the stalls, but nice shout nonetheless.

cracking ride on the winner, ignored the suicidal pace.

10.1's for the Caulfield Cup winner

17.0 ir for over a grand despite travelling sweetly. someone bailing out of their bet I assume.

was 20 lengths behind 1000 metres out but Serpentine etc were always going to fall in a hole

Good shout on Vauban Acey. You are totally wrong on your remarks about NSW not being interested in "Race of the Nation". I was in Port Macquarie in northern NSW a decade or so back on Melbourne Cup day. The streets were full of ladies in their racing finery off to the pubs and clubs, it was quite amazing.

wd Acey my daughter is in Melbourne atm and her friend she is travelling with is working at the racecourse in VIP area taking bets
she said Saturday was quiet in there but was told Tuesday would be mayhem... will wait to see what she says

Well done 'acey'. I've yet to watch the race; 7/2 was a bookie's benevolent price. And, it was proven emphatically.

Mullins maybe we got the tactics wrong……I thought that was up to the best jockey in the world…..ffs…

Just watched the race. The fav Vauban was in a good position coming off the bend with stablemate Absurde alongside. I think Vauban did not get home.

How can a horse who's never won a competitive 2m flat race start fav in a GP 1 handicap in Australia? Hoodwinked (by connections) or greed (easy money) perhaps a rather common phenomenon in this game.

Btw, another crass runner is Serpentine - the horse gifted the Epsom Derby - is plying his trade in Australia too. The horse has never won a race since Epsom, and trounced out-of-sight over this distance (2m). He finished 19th in a 23-runner race.

Think he won a race in Brisbane this year. But what a shame he wasn't  looked after differently - who ever heard of a Derby winner being gelded?

An Epsom Derby winner sold by Coolmore? An alarm bell in itself to me. What an astute sale by Coolmore? A double whammy by buyer buying the horse and subsequently gelding it. All or nothing gamble which did not pay off.

Surely he'd have earned a fair bit at stud whatever his subsequent record?

Ignore acey at your peril.

Nice picture of the winner Acey, how short did Vauban (SP 9/2) get on BF for your lay?

I did ok Storm.

argh well it,ll shut chappoers and itv mob up for a few hrs,maybe they,ll find a few runners for next yr in saturdays nov handicap and bang on about them for 360 days

'acey', well done. Vauban was running for the bookies. I understand his stablemate was backed before the off. Btw how do you post a picture like you did of Without A Fight on this forum? I've just learned using emoji.

Acey was able to lay at 9/4 when it was 7/2 for the rest of us.

Crooks trying to rob punters blind with 9-4 quote. Sp 9-2. This is where were at in the game. Scared of their own shadow. No guts to even go 3s and take a few pennies. It was a 23 runner foreign handicap ffs.

As low as 3.10 if you had a vpn and accessed betfair Australia.

acey the potless fantasist laid 9/4 when its never been close to 9/4..

ricardo sez he aint been in for his winnings yet....

#WAFDC.

Never Educate a Mug

Could you Mugs tell me when i ever said i got 9-4 please?

Accept Acey was bang on,it got stuffed big time…..move on ffs

hulk23 • November 6, 2023 6:53 PM GMT
2nd best jockey on the planet

be #1 when Mat finds out Ann Stokell's retired ...

Brilliant. Ann Stockell was a wonder to behold wasn't she?

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Rank    Last week    Name    Modal Country    Runners    Runs    SR    Rating    G1 Wins    G2 Wins    G3 Wins    Points    Change
1    1    Ryan Moore    GBR    293    628    20    112.6    51    27    50    2145    22
2    2    Irad Ortiz Jr    USA    300    541    25    112.8    47    35    51    2057    28
3    3    James McDonald    AUS    251    454    24    112.3    37    31    41    2019    1
4    4    Flavien Prat    USA    308    536    24    112.1    38    42    50    1973    -5
5    5    William Buick    GBR    233    461    23    112.0    29    34    45    1918    1
6    6    Christophe Lemaire    JPN    130    231    21    116.7    16    14    18    1872    -17
7    7    Joel Rosario    USA    307    529    22    112.4    25    47    42    1810    -20
8    8    Yuga Kawada    JPN    119    216    21    114.4    15    12    19    1788    -14
9    9    Frankie Dettori    GBR    236    404    19    113.6    32    22    24    1771    7
10    10    Juan J Hernandez    USA    157    299    25    110.2    11    32    31    1661    -16
11    11    Jim Crowley    GBR    97    213    21    114.8    13    8    23    1576    -7
12    12    Zac Purton    HK    54    104    24    114.8    8    6    11    1561    -10
13    13    Florent Geroux    USA    174    316    18    112.1    17    15    25    1519    5
14    14    Luis Saez    USA    321    495    16    111.0    16    22    39    1487    -20
15    16    Joao Moreira    HK    81    135    20    110.8    13    8    6    1485    13
16    15    Nash Rawiller    AUS    154    249    18    110.3    6    20    18    1479    -5
17    21    Junior Alvarado    USA    141    238    18    113.0    13    11    20    1469    44
18    17    Damian Lane    AUS    211    345    14    110.7    8    20    21    1446    -9
19    19    John R Velazquez    USA    286    425    14    111.6    20    14    27    1435    3
20    18    Tyler Gaffalione    USA    294    461    13    111.1    15    16    27    1423    -15
21    20    Craig A Williams    AUS    234    358    13    110.7    13    17    18    1412    -14
22    24    Tom Marquand    GBR    200    336    15    110.4    8    15    26    1398    14
23    22    Jose L Ortiz    USA    287    441    15    111.0    18    18    28    1394    -10
24    23    Vincent Ho    HK    38    82    22    117.6    11    4    3    1386    -7
25    25    Cristian Demuro    FRA    183    287    15    109.6    7    10    26    1372    -6
26    31    Takeshi Yokoyama    JPN    122    175    10    114.2    6    8    4    1356    23
27    26    Kohei Matsuyama    JPN    108    190    11    112.1    1    6    14    1350    -6
28    27    Mickael Barzalona    FRA    210    364    14    109.3    6    13    31    1343    -5
29    28    James Doyle    GBR    169    261    14    111.9    9    12    15    1342    -5
30    29    Rene Piechulek    GER    66    115    24    110.0    7    7    14    1338    -7
31    33    Mark Zahra    AUS    145    228    13    111.1    9    9    12    1338    30
32    32    Timothy Clark    AUS    194    338    12    109.4    9    14    19    1335    24
33    30    Christophe Soumillon    FRA    176    288    16    109.9    10    8    27    1334    -4
34    36    Jamie Kah    AUS    198    271    14    109.4    7    9    23    1305    26
35    34    Aurelien Lemaitre    FRA    42    84    21    113.3    6    4    8    1302    -3
36    35    Richard Fourie    SAF    53    87    24    111.2    19    1    1    1287    -4
37    37    Oisin Murphy    GBR    155    257    12    110.7    11    9    11    1277    0
38    38    Keita Tosaki    JPN    128    178    9    111.9    4    0    12    1266    -3
39    40    Javier Castellano    USA    203    276    11    110.8    9    10    12    1263    -3
40    39    Suguru Hamanaka    JPN    64    115    10    111.5    0    3    9    1258    -8
41    41    Alexis Badel    HK    32    83    17    111.5    4    3    7    1256    -4
42    46    Mirco Demuro    JPN    102    185    9    110.5    4    3    10    1256    23
43    42    Kazuo Yokoyama    JPN    80    114    10    113.9    2    3    6    1250    -5
44    44    Hugh Bowman    AUS    167    279    11    110.4    11    10    11    1244    -6
45    43    Opie Bosson    NZL    48    84    23    112.6    18    1    0    1244    -8
46    45    Yutaka Take    JPN    112    191    8    111.3    3    4    8    1239    -3
47    49    Francisco L Fernandes    ARG    65    98    22    108.4    22    0    0    1228    10
48    48    Kenichi Ikezoe    JPN    95    148    8    112.3    1    7    4    1218    -4
49    54    Bauyrzhan Murzabayev    GER    108    176    15    109.1    4    7    15    1215    16
50    47    Blake Shinn    AUS    109    165    12    110.2    4    2    14    1215    -9

Would not have Crowley in the top 50 but there you go.

Would not have Crowley in the top 50 but there you go.

Crowley hasn't got a top job and kept it by chance. 11th best in the world though?! They're only stats.

Where are you 'acey'? Were you not a jockey once?

'acey', is Bravemansgame a 'lay' for the King George? this race is just around the corner.

I am backing him imp.

acey the potless fantasist laid 9/4 when its never been close to 9/4..

ricardo sez he aint been in for his winnings yet....

#WAFDC.

I hope pumpkin streams down the horse a wee-bit. The unknown is Allaho.

acey the potless fantasist laid 9/4 when its never been close to 9/4......Hey Dumbo i was answering the op question i never mentioned any thing about laying at 9-4....Why i am getting into a debate with pond life like you God only fakin knows.

acey deucy 06 Nov 23 17:15 
Fair enough Jumpers have a brilliant record in the Race That Stops A Nation but i will be laying for plenty at 9-4.


plenty = nothing.... #WAC.

9-4, maybe acey's sleeping plans.

Yes in answer to the op....Then went to look for the 9-4 and nay where to be found comprende?

The search party are still out looking for the Nag ffs.

what? the nag ewe dint lay?

Ffs WAC.

Allaho….. the unknown.

FFS

haycy duesee..biggest bluffer in the forum..

Nice picture of the winner Acey, how short did Vauban (SP 9/2) get on BF for your lay?



acey deucy07 Nov 23 09:34Joined: 29 Sep 02 | Topic/replies: 27,661 | Blogger: acey deucy's blog

I did ok Storm.

Exactly i did ok storm...No bullsh1t about laying the 9-4....Been on here over 20 Years and never tried to pretend to be somebody i aint.

Then the biggest fantasist on The Forum tries to take me down.....You couldnay make it up ffs.

Make up your own minds guys who is the fakin Numpty here.

I’m a massive mullings fan but travelling half way around the world is not my idea of a good thing even at decent prices so didn’t surprise me either way

'acey', just ignore the trollers. Nothing will please them...only their own (?). Personally, whether it's 9/4 or 3/1 or 5/1 is immaterial. If I was that way inclined I'd 'lay' accordingly eg how much I was prepared to risk?

Allaho, the unknown? Post injury this is a guess work unless with inside info. I think more will be known post Clonmel today.

acey deucy 08 Nov 23 22:31 
Then the biggest fantasist on The Forum tries to take me down....

quite simple to substantiate any claims..post your lay..isnt illegal and takes 10 seconds.

im saying your a potless fantasist.

buy,ewe just keep up the pretence...

we know