The Arc 15:05. One stands out..

If it finishes in front of Ace Impact i will show my arse in Tescos.

7/2 ???
How do you have him at the price?

Awful draw, but does Jim have the balls to do what Dettori did on Golden Horn from stall 14 and stay wide first 4 furlongs and then slot in?

WESTOVER EASY PEASY

I think unless a 3yr old wins this ARC will be forgotten the next day. I cannot see any other winner be remembered as fondly as Sea The Stars, Treve or Enable or Golden Horn.

Hukum V Westover hardly Grundy V Bustino ffs.

A moderate King George imo.

Not sure, impossible.
In the 30 odd runnings of the Arc I have witnessed, I don't think the performance of the 4 year old Sakhee has been bettered personally.

Then go on to be nosed out of the Breeders Cup Classic cemented his class.

Well I have not backed Hukum yet. You lot have got me wavering now..

I'm not familiar with Sakhee except he was a Godolphin horse. Post googling I gather he was 2nd to Sinndar (an ARC winner) at Epsom. Found and Golden Horn also won the ARC but were defeated in America; the latter post a massive deluge before the race.

But, I do not think there's a Sakhee amongst the older generation here unless Hukum turns out to be a late developer. The rest are much of a muchness, I'd confidently predict.

Feed the Flame, c&d winner, drawn low, Soumi up, fingers xd although I'll have to back Westover, too. GL all

Sakhee tried and almost landed the greatest of doubles.

Not sure how you can not be familiar with him.

I was not into horseracing diligently then. I was mainly into big races eg The Derby, etc. Maybe Sakhee did not win anything major as a 3 yr old.

I remember backing Sinndar at Epsom (a tip), and Sinndar won the ARC the same year; Sakhee won a sub-standard ARC perhaps a year later.

Sakhee was well beaten by Sinndar at Epsom..but,then again Sinndar was one of the most under-rated Derby and Arc winners imo...Sakhee was with John Dunlop at 3 then moved to Godolphin at 4 I think

I would go further lead on and say sinndar was one of the most underrated horses of all time.

As a 3 year old sakhee did the sandown york route winning both before runner up in the derby he was a very good horse

If it wasn’t for sinndar he would have won the derby by 5 lengths

Also won the judmonte by 7 lengths surprised you don’t remember him impossible

Beaten a nose by tiznow in the breeders cup not that I rate that nonsense

dancing brave best winner I've seen

Yes me too Nutty.

Obviously dancing brave was the best but on the day I thought pentire celebre was very good

I liked DETROIT, a much earlier Khallid Abdullah winner

Sangsters I think shood

Although pat was on board

Alleged was rather good.

'jimnast', I did not because Sakhee was annihilated in the Eclipse. But, I agree with others Dancing Brave was very good beating Bering - another exceptional horse.

Might have gone unbeaten but for a poor ride in the Leger, not Lesters greatest moment.

Well then impossible that makes him not a very good horse then.

Surely sea bird was best arc winner.

Maybe Frankel could have challenged that.


Hookum looks to be a decent horse, we could find
out he is decent, if he wins today.

Not to mention Tryptich and Sharastani in behind.

Tiger if he had have won the st leger the silver jubilee celebrations might not have been so good

That going looks quick enough, should suit the Japanese runner.

I agree jimnast, it was fab for Dunfermline to win for Her Majesty, Alleged soon got revenge though.

I think of all the horses the greatest trainer of all time had his best achievement was winning the 2nd arc tiger.

That was magical jimnast. Lets forget about Enable either though, another great winner of this race.

Tiger there’s been so many great winners I’m not a lover of arc weekend but I enjoy the arc it’s almost always unmissable


Unbelievable they just shown alleged of channel 4

Montjeu was the greatest. Well, my greatest

You're right Jimnast - Sangsters - I remember as a student just starting UNI - it was my first day - I saw it very unlucky in it's previous race and missed getting on the Arc - listened on radio with my dad, depressed to hear it bursting through to win at about 8 to 1 I think - early days of an illustrious betting career - NOT! :) - ah well, it'll all be over soon enough. :D ..... won't be betting in the Arc - never any use to me, even laid last year's winner - how could that jock win an arc.... yeuk.

tbf catching ECP was one of the greatest races, for sure.

Yes montjue he never saw which way sinndar went the year after.

notwithstanding the Ascot romp, for me he was past his best at 4. Travelled with his usual panache but didn't find once let down. I personally put it down to running on the hard ground in Tokyo.

Quite possibly cider

He was that good that he was still able to win group 1s on the bridle. Can't do that in the Arc though. Sinndar was a champion in his own right.

Correct on both statements there cider

Hukum last 4 races on RH tracks 1111 Draw a neg and going a touch quicker than ideal but he has an excellent record on good. Around 13/2 on the machine looks a very fair price IMO. The Japanese horse looks interesting as it has improved a lot from 4yo-5yo

Hukum big price here.  wade in.

*3 races

holy sht, that things a machine

Impressive winner

Dancing brave=esq

Westover ran a cracker.

well done winners

Onesto 6.0 top 5 only bet, pleased it didn't win outright as would have kicked myself !

That horse is a machine.  Top class performance.  Dancing Brace esque

That was absolutely superlative.

Brave

Cracking turn of foot, well done winners.

Wiiner Appeared on the Scene and that was the end of it Took off

Easy tricast too

**** horse ran well, funny ride. Winner looks special.

What a horse Ace Impact? A cracking run on the outside; the trun if foot did the  business big time. A Dancing Brave run!!!

J@p is banned
Japanese

A Peintre Celebre turn of foot 

Yes Hayden he was brilliant arc day

One of the best ever winners of this great race.

Outstanding winner. Draw and the quick going was too much for Hukum.

Hukum a bit below his best but wouldn't have beaten the winner at his best.

Best ever, for me, for quickening twice in the race, was Sea The Stars.

That draw was an absolute killer and throw in the quicker going. I still played because he's done me a good few turns over the years but lost the minimum I could there. But like you say, he wouldn't have beat the winner even with ideal conditions.

4.1 s faster than standard.

Ace Impact vs Equinox would be an interesting race 

Cor yes

Ace Impact if at Longchamp even on good ground. Until Equinox runs in Europe (not Meydan) my money will always be on Ace Impact.

One of the best ever winners sparrow

I will leave you with this before I go out for a nice Sunday lunch

These are the 5 who chased him home

Westover 4 from 13
Onesto 3 from 12
Through seven seas 4 from 13
Continuous 4 from 8
Bay bridge 7 from 15

Also 14 lengths covered the field.

Maybe Sparrow was talking about Peintre Celebre

Apologies sparrow if that was the case

Just caught a replay of the race, super win. Looking at the results seems as though most of the form horses/fancied ones won. Maybe next season they should have a Royal Longchamp instead of Ascot.

To add looking at it again with a clear run earlier think the O'Brien horse should have been placed.

jimnast 01 Oct 23 15:57 
Apologies sparrow if that was the case





I was just talking about Ace Impact but for me Sea Bird in 1965 was the very best I have seen.

MJK, Continuous 11/8 first five on Betfair.