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29 Sep 23
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Doubt anyone saw it, as was on Birmingham Live TV, The Jeremy Kyle show, only caught the end of it, a discussion about problem gambling with 2 other women.
Not particularly interesting with 2 very loud blokes talking over the ladies. Findlays contribution was basically to educate people how to bet on Sports with a degree of skill rather than just gamble on games of chance/luck and wants the government to ban On line casinos as these are what lead bored women mainly to become addicted to gambling.
One of the women bet on Politics markets only and claimed to be successful, the other woman was something to do with the GC.
Not particularly interesting with 2 very loud blokes talking over the ladies. Findlays contribution was basically to educate people how to bet on Sports with a degree of skill rather than just gamble on games of chance/luck and wants the government to ban On line casinos as these are what lead bored women mainly to become addicted to gambling.
One of the women bet on Politics markets only and claimed to be successful, the other woman was something to do with the GC.
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Was on Talk Tv, agree that part wasn't very interesting, the guy who stole £250K from his employers talked the most sense.
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Harry is a legendary figure after that £1 million punt on New Zealand in an earlier world cup. I seem to remember from his starsports interview that he would bet on two flies climbing a wall. Not my perfect choice of a gambling tutor tbph
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Always felt sorry for his gardener who put his life savings on NZ . Harry didn't force him of course -I often wonder if Harry ever reimbursed him -imagine having saved -I think it was about £30000 - over years and losing it in one go.
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Harry was (is?) a good judge of judges but a lousy judge. OK when having his card marked, in other words. Bigger balls than me though, I'll give him that, and a far more exciting life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6A-_z6bSc Here it is. HF on 40 minutes in.
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Was an awful program, completely biased and very misinformed. On talk tv of all places, wouldn’t have been out of place on the BBC.
Jeremy Kyle was a terrible choice of person to host it. He spent most of the show pointing out that he himself used to be a gambling addict, he must have mentioned it about 27 times, as if we were meant to be surprised that it could even happen to somebody like him. |
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Still at least you managed to get a dig in at the BBC!
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saw on that morning fraud prog the othewr day with naga mulchetty a doctor stole 1.1 million from his practises and spoonked it up the wall with online casinos ,he was found guilty got jailed but the online casinos paid £900,000 back to the practises he stole it from ........couldnt belive it
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Yes, sparrow, my main intention was just to take a swipe at the BBC.
I used them because they have literally made dozens of programs about gambling addiction and have helped to push the narrative that is being set. They aren’t alone, all other media outlets are doing it too, but if you look at their iPlayer listings there are loads of them. The only one worth watching is the Louis Theroux one from about 15 years ago set in Las Vegas. |
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Best keep watching Talk Talk TV then.
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The lady said:
''The betting industry needs losers. That means betting addicts. 10% of gamblers provide 80% of the profits from betting. The industry needs addictive and problem gamblers in order to survive.'' But how does she know that big losers are problem gamblers? She was assuming that none of them can afford to lose. How could she know that? |
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Was the doctor an ethnic minority Foyles? Surprised the GC and BBC haven't come up with some theory that ethnics are at more risk of becoming addicts to push their bonkers agenda, like covid discriminated against them, maybe only a matter of time though?
With luck the inquiry (still not officially announced) into the GCs possible misuse of funds will uncover something and get them discredited along with their nonsense. |
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It doesn’t matter what channel you watch ,bbc, itv, sky, talk tv, gb news, betfair forum. It’s always the same misinformed opinions.
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It’s now assumed that everybody who has lost money is an addict or problem gambler.
The “losing punter” no longer exists. |
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Bookmakers call many of them recreational
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Remember the day of The Eclipse at Sandown some years ago? Ok koral whipper-snapper voicebox on live tv during transmission steadfastly denied his firm refused bettors the "guaranteed" prices before 10am despite viewers phoning in to say otherwise. But, his boss - the senior voicebox - came on air later on and admitted ok koral did refuse early morning prices because of the deluge of bets on one horse; online liability incurred prior to 10am.
Bookies speak with forked-tongue. Forget this at your peril. |
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All them tv channels that generate a big slice of their income from adverts and show casino/slots adverts every 15 minutes (including in prime-time) are part of a (leftie) anti-gambling conspiracy BR?
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Small staking recreational punter = fine.
Medium/large staking recreational punter = addict/problem gambler/victim. Nobody is allowed to lose anymore. Not in the regulated market anyway. |
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Not part of the conspiracy TM, just hypocritical.
Like you, want it both ways. |
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Regarding the actual topic Harry Findlay - he's a cheeky chappie and a good raconteur - but he pretty much ticks all of the boxes for problem gambler:
Chasing, Betting more than he can afford, Betting with borrowed money, losing a house, impact on others (especially family and friends), cost to society, etc, etc. |
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The Management 29 Sep 23 13:53
Regarding the actual topic Harry Findlay - he's a cheeky chappie and a good raconteur - but he pretty much ticks all of the boxes for problem gambler: Chasing, Betting more than he can afford, Betting with borrowed money, losing a house, impact on others (especially family and friends), cost to society, etc, etc. Ffs I have to agree, who would have thought…..ffs |
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Lol the management diagnosing people again.
That’s the problem TM, people like you who think they know what is best for everybody else. If HF wants to gamble, and I’m pretty sure he does, that’s for him to decide. |
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The Management 29 Sep 23 13:49
All them tv channels that generate a big slice of their income from adverts and show casino/slots adverts every 15 minutes (including in prime-time) are part of a (leftie) anti-gambling conspiracy BR? Indeed those channels do rely on bookmakers. TM. |
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Dreadful admitting to selling a home ffs….”we was on @ 1/2” ffs……
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I don't have a clue what is best for everybody else but you don't need 7 years at medical school to diagnose Harry imo.
People like me? - do you you mean taxpayers? - that pick up the pieces? I'm currently picking up the pieces for the last banking crisis, the current energy sector crisis, the telecoms sector crisis, the water sector crisis, the transport sector crisis, the pensions sector crisis, the NHS crisis, the Education crisis, etc, etc. I can do without picking up the pieces for the on-line bookmakers. |
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And if you sell your house to start a business that's OK ? Well yes it is if you have talent at the business or gambling. Sounds loony to those without talent of course.
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Yeah the ‘big pro’ sold the house (allegedly) to fund business…..gambling ffs
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There are already laws in place to deal with the likes of Harry Findlay, hence the nine months he spent in Brixton for credit card fraud.
Hence no further need for regulations or judgements about what he does with his money. |
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Sounds loony to those with talent as well.
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Would Terry Ramsden and Harry be in same category?
They are legendary figures nonetheless, they added colour to life and the nags. Would love to read a Warts And All Autobiography by Tel but it can't be like his Star Sports interview where anything conrentious was off-limits. |
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the best gamblers ( winners long term ) have losing runs and something may have to be sold.
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They might ponder how they got into the position of having to sell their house in order to raise funds.
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I don't think you can call yourself a "pro" (imo) if you entertain a staking plan that might leave you homeless.
Never understood all the attention he gets - given that everything he touches seems to turn to sh1t sooner or later. Would much rather hear from somebody clever that has been successful - like Tony Bloom. |
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Dr. many pro's have said you have to maximise income from your tank ( total wealth ) This obviously carries risk to ready cash. eg. If you are given 8/1 heads or tails you go nearly full bank.
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you go nearly full bank.
Then sell your house for the next bet if it goes down? That's not very professional. The bankruptcy courts are full of those kinds of professionals. |
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TM , many punters can see something of themselves in Findlay ( minus ever being a couple of million in front ) but with Bloom there isn't much cliff edge stuff it's grinding out ( albeit big ) money just like working for a living. Not really the punter's dream that.
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Tony Bloom was also clever enough to see what Harry was, by refusing to bail him out or lend him anymore money.
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Now you mention bankruptcy. That doesn't happen if you are playing with your own assets.
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howard (14:36 post) and the dealer (14:36 post0 - both spot on imo.
Grinding is the reality - if you want flash/sexy gambling - watch a Matt Damon film imo |