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09 Sep 23 10:51
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He claimed to be a professional gambler who made £100,000 a year, and would soon be “very rich.” He told police he carried on offering his professional will writing services despite his gambling success “because he liked helping people.”


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/gambler-gripped-addiction-frittered-away-27681277

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By:
The Management
When: 09 Sep 23 10:59
Why is the authoritarian state intervening here?

Surely these people should just take responsibility for their own actions. They gambled and lost, simple as that. Vulnerable old people claiming they are "victims" it's outrageous I tell you.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Sep 23 11:05
Huddersfield?.......The man was from Keighley.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:07
Mum's £180,000 scam that funded lavish lifestyle uncovered after shopping trip at B&Q

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mums-180000-scam-funded-lavish-30437018

Why isn't the authoritarian state intervening here?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:08
or here?

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18888062.woman-stole-400-000-employer-fund-lavish-lifestyle/
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:10
or here?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-stole-100000-employer-fund-25276854
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Sep 23 11:10
Why was the bookie' money laundering' procedure not activated? Because the punter was a big loser? Greed prevailed before governance.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:12
or here?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/must-reads/woman-guilty-of-systematically-abusing-her-position-to-steal-almost-1m-from-vulnerable-people-127881/
By:
The Management
When: 09 Sep 23 11:13
CB29 - It's almost beginning to look like we live in a civilised society with all these laws to protect people Shocked
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:14
or here?

https://www.businessinsider.in/thelife/news/a-woman-stole-100000-from-her-boss-to-fund-a-lavish-instagram-worthy-lifestyle-that-mimicked-other-seemingly-wealthy-women/articleshow/94973902.cms
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:21
Crooks spend their money in any number of ways.  I'd suggest gambling addiction is a tiny minority.  Cars, holidays, nights out prolly far more common.  Let's target those industries with burdensome checks and admin costs
By:
The Management
When: 09 Sep 23 11:28
That would be ridiculous - surely the people that leave their credit cards lying around or are stupid enough to trust their employees, just need to take responsibility for their own actions.Crazy
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:31
Joe Bloggs who's retired and £500k walks in the car dealership to buy a new car and the dealer says "sorry sir, your pension is only £20k a year, so you've failed our Affordability Check.  Can I direct you to this 2nd hand Fiat Punto.  Only 100,000 miles on the clock and a bargain at £1,500."  Flash Harry comes in later, he's overdrawn at the bank, with a wife and 2 kids and a £400k mortgage.  Want to buy the same Audi that Joe wants on HP. On his £100k a year salary that just covers his expenditure, the dealer says he's passed the Affordability Check and his HP agreement is another £800 a month that he can't actually afford.

This is the bewildering madness that the GC is suggesting, only it's not £40k for a new Audi, it's merely rolling losses of more than £2k at any point in time, even if you are up overall.  The whole thing beggars belief.  It's beyond pathetic
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Sep 23 11:35
They should TM.  The CC company will refund them generally.  And the auditors may be liable under professional indemnity if they failed to spot it.
By:
The Management
When: 09 Sep 23 11:37
Absolute madness - that (well known communist) Iain Duncan Smith has got a lot to answer for imo. Grin

I can't do this today mate. have a good one! GL.
By:
dustybin
When: 09 Sep 23 11:48
TM showing how stupid he is as well as the contempt he has for gambling (evidenced by mocking gambling demise and blaming punters)

This chap broke the law by fraud, not in losing money idiot.
The guy could just as easily have lost the money on the stock market and nothing said, that would have been an investment, which itself is a gamble in the true sense of the word.
It’s the fact he deceived his clients and went beyond his remit why he’s getting sentenced.

TM’s logic would have the government follow convictions and stop innocuous spend of innocents on all activities criminals happened to have spent ill gotten gains on.
By:
howard
When: 09 Sep 23 11:58
Huddersfield?.......The man was from Keighley.   You're right sparrow my mistake as it's a Huddersfield paper  but it said 8 different betting shop firms so Keighley wouldn't cover that.  He was actually from Oxenhope 5 miles from Keighley 8 miles Halifax.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Sep 23 12:13
The funny thing is Howard that I have lived in both Oxenhope and Huddersfield.
By:
BoosterRooster
When: 09 Sep 23 12:20
Yes, if you ever do decide to COMMIT FRAUD, and STEAL MONEY from either your employers, or unsuspecting victims, just make sure you don’t blow it all on holidays, cars and a lavish lifestyle. Be sure to gamble some away too, so you can claim to be a gambling addict.

Not only do you get a reduced sentence, but you also get to come out of it looking like the victim, rather than the criminal.

You also get a visit in prison from TM, where he does his best impression of Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting… “it’s not your fault, it’s not your fault….” !!
By:
the dealer
When: 09 Sep 23 12:27
I would bet a sizeable wedge, he spent a lot more on his lifestyle than his sudden gambling addiction
By:
howard
When: 09 Sep 23 13:24
thought you never left the smoke sparrow! dealer and others yeah it was handy he could say it was cash betting and spread over many different firms so no one firm ( or online ) got to know him.
By:
howard
When: 09 Sep 23 13:27
well they would know him but not the full extent of stakes and time betting
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Sep 23 13:30
I left London for Yorkshire 53 years ago, howard.
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 09 Sep 23 14:02
You should be ok by now sparrow,they’ve probably stopped looking for you!
By:
howard
When: 09 Sep 23 14:12
Laugh
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Sep 23 14:14
Shocked
By:
pixie
When: 12 Sep 23 15:51
Judge gave him 5 years and three months, which I suppose is a fair old stretch for his age.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Sep 23 15:53
I can think of one country where they'd chop off your hands to prevent you ever betting again - online or in-shop.
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