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By:
airto
When: 09 Sep 23 17:03
Well and truly put in my place by Mr_Spreadsheet. Well done!
By:
penzance
When: 09 Sep 23 17:04
onthehoy well played.
wd
  GL.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 09 Sep 23 17:06
Well played last race Fatpunt

Gl for the next round

I thought yours had won it a furlong out
By:
Clerkmore
When: 09 Sep 23 17:11
I can't believe I didn't win with 14 points.

But good luck jimnast in the next and future rounds.
By:
Brian
When: 09 Sep 23 17:13
Well done Timberman.

Brilliant effort Undecided in running the comp and keeping it updated through the racing.
By:
monarch
When: 09 Sep 23 17:15
Well done rasp. Good at the eddies as well as the golf!!
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 09 Sep 23 17:15
19 here Clerkmore! Out on the away goals rule! Well done to The Travelling Man. He travelled well throughout but was all out at the line to hold on! Devil
By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:16
The two ties are settled by best priced winner.

Hilly prevails over the numbers seven by picking Starlust, the only winner.

travelling man beats Whippin Piccadilly in a 19v19 stonker, because Alkasib won at 5/1 better than Raasel/Dark Trooper.
Unlucky WP.
By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:17
the numbers seven   ↓                         
9v9     Hilly    ↓                   
Hilly   ↑      ↓                   
          R16-1a    ↓             
Lance In France   ↓      ↑      ↓             
13v7     Lance In   ↑      ↓             
breadnbutter   ↑            ↓             
                QF-1a    ↓       
stewpot   ↓            ↑      ↓       
8v19     soldierof   ↓      ↑      ↓       
soldieroffortune   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓       
          R16-1b    ↑      ↓       
raspberrybottom   ↓      ↑            ↓       
13v3     raspberry   ↑            ↓       
monarch   ↑                  ↓       
                      SF-1a    ↓ 
NonVintage   ↓                  ↑      ↓ 
9v12     The Sawye   ↓            ↑      ↓ 
The Sawyer   ↑      ↓            ↑      ↓ 
          R16-2a    ↓      ↑      ↓ 
barstool   ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓ 
5v13     The Drago   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓ 
The Dragon   ↑            ↓      ↑      ↓ 
                QF-1b    ↑      ↓ 
GRP888   ↓            ↑            ↓ 
10v11     N-east Co   ↓      ↑            ↓ 
N-east Correspondent   ↑      ↓      ↑            ↓ 
          R16-2b    ↑            ↓ 
undecided   ↓      ↑                  ↓ 
2v15     china cas   ↑                  ↓ 
china castle   ↑                        ↓ 
                            Fin-1a 
hong kong fooey   ↓                        ↑ 
15v5     hong kong   ↓                  ↑ 
foxy   ↑      ↓                  ↑ 
          R16-3a    ↓            ↑ 
liqernpoker   ↓      ↑      ↓            ↑ 
13v5     liqernpok   ↑      ↓            ↑ 
OilyWragg   ↑            ↓            ↑ 
                QF-2a    ↓      ↑ 
mitolo   ↓            ↑      ↓      ↑ 
14v9     mitolo    ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑ 
acey deucy   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑ 
          R16-3b    ↑      ↓      ↑ 
differentdrum   ↓      ↑            ↓      ↑ 
20v2     different   ↑            ↓      ↑ 
youresomean   ↑                  ↓      ↑ 
                      SF-1b    ↑ 
timberman   ↓                  ↑       
13v9     timberman   ↓            ↑       
Brian   ↑      ↓            ↑       
          R16-4a    ↓      ↑       
Clerkmore   ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑       
14v15     jimnast    ↑      ↓      ↑       
jimnast   ↑            ↓      ↑       
                QF-2b    ↑       
GLASGOWCALLING   ↓            ↑             
12v21     madhatter   ↓      ↑             
madhatter   ↑      ↓      ↑             
          R16-4b    ↑             
SoulKillers   ↓      ↑                   
10v6     SoulKille   ↑                   
lockup   ↑                         
                             
Aquarius   ↓                         
15v16     GEORGE.B   ↓                   
GEORGE.B   ↑      ↓                   
          R16-5a    ↓             
feed the goat…...   ↓      ↑      ↓             
16v14     feed the   ↑      ↓             
Moose   ↑            ↓             
                QF-3a    ↓       
The Management   ↓            ↑      ↓       
7v16     madhatter   ↓      ↑      ↓       
madhatters   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓       
          R16-5b    ↑      ↓       
FatPunt   ↓      ↑            ↓       
7v5     FatPunt    ↑            ↓       
SontaranStratagem   ↑                  ↓       
                      SF-2a    ↓ 
penzance   ↓                  ↑      ↓ 
4v17     onthehoy   ↓            ↑      ↓ 
onthehoy   ↑      ↓            ↑      ↓ 
          R16-6a    ↓      ↑      ↓ 
airto   ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓ 
7v21     Mr_Spread   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓ 
Mr_Spreadsheet   ↑            ↓      ↑      ↓ 
                QF-3b    ↑      ↓ 
Andrew.In.Sweden   ↓            ↑            ↓ 
17v0     Andrew.In   ↓      ↑            ↓ 
bluenose7   ↑      ↓      ↑            ↓ 
          R16-6b    ↑            ↓ 
DeSSieReborn   ↓      ↑                  ↓ 
22v10     DeSSieReb   ↑                  ↓ 
cobs101   ↑                        ↓ 
                            Fin-1b 
CagliariG   ↓                        ↑ 
10v23     JUMPJUDGE   ↓                  ↑ 
JUMPJUDGE   ↑      ↓                  ↑ 
          R16-7a    ↓            ↑ 
salmon spray   ↓      ↑      ↓            ↑ 
14v8     salmon sp   ↑      ↓            ↑ 
unluckyStu   ↑            ↓            ↑ 
                QF-4a    ↓      ↑ 
travelling man   ↓            ↑      ↓      ↑ 
19v19     travellin   ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑ 
Whippin Piccadilly   ↑      ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑ 
          R16-7b    ↑      ↓      ↑ 
Lampus   ↓      ↑            ↓      ↑ 
14v20     adamanty   ↑            ↓      ↑ 
adamanty   ↑                  ↓      ↑ 
                      SF-2b    ↑ 
dukeofpuke   ↓                  ↑       
6v9     Platinum   ↓            ↑       
Platinum   ↑      ↓            ↑       
          R16-8a    ↓      ↑       
dunter1   ↓      ↑      ↓      ↑       
15v10     dunter1    ↑      ↓      ↑       
hynesy1   ↑            ↓      ↑       
                QF-4b    ↑       
Lucky Luciano   ↓            ↑             
23v7     Lucky Luc   ↓      ↑             
Shanelee1966   ↑      ↓      ↑             
          R16-8b    ↑             
rob22   ↓      ↑                   
13v7     rob22    ↑                   
scrabbler   ↑                         
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 09 Sep 23 17:19
Great total Luciano, good luck in the next round.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 09 Sep 23 17:19
Thanks UD. A tough one to take! But well done to The Travelling man, well played Sir.
By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:20
Sorry about the truncated names. I'll fix that for next time Happy

The trouble with knockout comps is that we lose half the field already, oh well, we might do it again sometime Wink
By:
Lucky Luciano
When: 09 Sep 23 17:26

Sep 9, 2023 -- 5:19PM, Shanelee1966 wrote:


Great total Luciano, good luck in the next round.


Cheers Shanelee

By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:31
Well done china Happy

Round of 32 is next Saturday and the thread will be up on Thursday.
By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:34
I think there was only one tie where a late non-runner may have affected the result.
If anyone has a bright idea to deal with non-runners, what would be fairest?
By:
undecided
When: 09 Sep 23 17:36
As for the SP bonuses, I'm thinking for a future comp I'd raise the thresholds a bit.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 09 Sep 23 17:37
I think its what you decide UD your the one running a good comp so we should accept your rulings within it

Fantastic fun that thanks UD Happy
By:
FatPunt
When: 09 Sep 23 17:54
That was a fantastic afternoons entertainment. Thanks for the hard work UD.
By:
FatPunt
When: 09 Sep 23 17:58
Thanks for the kind words Sonts. To be honest I feel like I've robbed you.
By:
china castle
When: 09 Sep 23 18:12
Thanks UD, another great competition Cool

With regards the non-runners, the average score was 11.75 for the 5 races, just over 2 per race. You could give 2pts for a non-runner.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Sep 23 18:12
Just a suggestion regarding non runners UD, why not sub any for the next horse in the betting at or near the time of withdrawal for anyone who is too late to make a change themselves, if equal prices at that time, the lowest racecard number?

Extra work granted so understandable if impractical.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 09 Sep 23 18:16
No robbing there fat punt, I scored in just one race so deserved to go out
By:
monarch
When: 09 Sep 23 18:22
I had a NR today but such is life. The better player won.

I think as the rules of the comp does not allow for duplicates/matching selections then the possibility of just putting someone on the FAV would not work (as your opponent may already have selected the horse that is FAV). Or am I missing something?

All in all its a great comp, and thanks to UD for his sterling work. Much appreciated.
By:
travelling man
When: 09 Sep 23 18:34
Desperately unlucky there Whippin Piccadilly. Sad to miss out like that.Blush
Ruddy good effort at least Happy
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 09 Sep 23 19:01
I'll take some solace from the slim defeat if you go on to win the whole thing Grin
By:
Aquarius
When: 09 Sep 23 19:07
I would have thought the solution to the late non-runners would be for the favourite to be substituted, but if that was already picked by your oponent you go on to the 2nd favourite
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Sep 23 19:09
Whatever you come up with undecided I’m sure like everyone else it will be good .

Very unlucky clerkmore today two winners and a decent placed.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Sep 23 19:23
There can always be tweaks on competitions but tbf those who chose first had the advantage today and well done to them, the disadvantage they had was possible non runners so swings and roundabouts in that respect.

Mitolo had a good point about the rags which UD has touched on and a good idea to rethink the bonus points for the more adventurous, made little difference today but nobody can predict the future weeks e.g heavy ground etc?

As you say UD, worth a look for the future but as always a sterling job.
By:
madhatter
When: 09 Sep 23 19:27
I think China's 2pts per n/r is a fairly good and easily worked idea...we will all fall into the n/r trap eventually unless we are sitting at our computers all day.
I also agree with ud that there could be be a bigger scale of bonus points for longer prices to offer potential extra reward to those willing to look outside of the market leaders. Maybe something like zero for under 3/1, 1 for 4/1 to 13/2, 2 for 7/1 to 12/1 and 3pts for over 12/1?
By:
scrabbler
When: 09 Sep 23 19:30
I'd suggest that, in the event of a tied match, the player who picked first is the loser.
By:
madhatter
When: 09 Sep 23 19:32
I think being given another horse by default just because yours doeasn't run is NOT the way forward.
The competition is, and should remain, about what you personally pick, not what you end up being given.
By:
madhatter
When: 09 Sep 23 19:34
Yes scrabbler, i like that one...much harder when you are second picker, although luckily it worked for me today
By:
differentdrum
When: 09 Sep 23 19:39
Agree with the above.

19/32 ties were won by the first poster.

Not sure how you get around that perceived advantage. If you had an even number of races and gave each player the same number of first picks it is likely that the posting would become too messy.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Sep 23 19:46
Going first worked today DD but could be a huge disadvantage in future for those posting e.g Thursday if there was a surfeit of withdrawals due to ground etc, swings and roundabouts but the N/Rs situation is either leave as is or give the entrant the runner immediately next in the betting behind the other entrants pick?
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Sep 23 19:49
I went 2 nd today and it never crossed my mind I was at a disadvantage
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Sep 23 19:58
Fancied horses obliged jimnast, obvious first picks for many, second choice were left with the "field" but as said may all change later.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 09 Sep 23 20:07
I think these competitions work best on a straight forward profit and loss. As it stands player one could get five Evens winners and get 25 points. Player two could get three 10/1 winners and get 21 points. Obviously with choosing competitive races like today you won’t get five short jollies, but it doesn’t tempt a player to find a horse any bigger than 6/1.
By:
madhatters
When: 09 Sep 23 20:07
UL TM today
Down to the wire is all you can ask

WD all the 20 pointers
Less of that please Grin

Gutter for ya Whipping

Non runner
Getting a run for your no money should be a contender
Good enough for ITV7 is get fave
If taken by opponent then 2nd fave
As Aquarius also says
By:
china castle
When: 09 Sep 23 20:13
Bonus suggestion

5/1 or over 1pt
10/1 or over 2pts
16/1 or over 3pts
25/1 or over 4pts

No need for the 3/1 bonus as only 3 horses were under that price today.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Sep 23 20:17
Never mind how other competitions work this is this one and we all knew the rules from the start it’s great to have a variety of competitions on here.
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