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23 Aug 23
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winner was short of room itself..
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Brutal bit of riding from Rowan Scott, but I think he keeps it personally
is there a stewards?
betting as if there is one?
betting as if there is one?
Can't see what Rowan Scott did wrong. Should definitely keep it
Winner got carried onto rail, jockey done well
when monet was down.
when monet was down.
At no stage does the winner come into contact with the 2nd
Winner keeps it
Winner keeps it
shocking mismanagement of this market by BF no enquiry even called yet just a load of hot air from lucky & dixon
no inq called but market open? thats a 1st
i dont think the 2nd was hmp when winner edged left initially..winner didnt have a trouble free passage either...harsh to disq winner imo but anything goes nowadaze.
i dont think the 2nd was hmp when winner edged left initially..winner didnt have a trouble free passage either...harsh to disq winner imo but anything goes nowadaze.
now a stewards
wtf
bookies may have paid out on track
wtf
bookies may have paid out on track
Luck needs to calm down. Roaring his little head off far too many times. Embarrassing.
Do Dixon and Luck have the stewards phone number?
How did Betfair know that there would be a Stewards?
Aug 23, 2023 -- 4:20PM, slickster wrote:
Luck needs to calm down. Roaring his little head off far too many times. Embarrassing.
that initial analysis immediately after the race was 1 for the archives
Personally think the stewards only called it because racing tv and Chapman were shouting about it. Has to keep it. Madness if not.
talking out of their pockets to completely different pictures
Took the 1.4 to keep, if that goes the games up. 
what are they looking at .... the runner-up interfering with La Pulga ??
Should drag Saffie Osborne in and ask her is she really up to the job at the top.level without Daddy helping ...joke of a ride
The 2nd had nowhere to go regardless of what the winner did at that point but it gives the 2nd an excuse to make an argument that the winner caused it.
Watched replays from all angles.
Must have missed something for it to be 1.3-1.5 for the Stewards.
Surely keeps it.
Must have missed something for it to be 1.3-1.5 for the Stewards.
Surely keeps it.
I thought the Stewards' job was to watch the races, not Racing TV.
As wonders said it reopened 4/5
I thought I was looking at the wrong race with the sound down, couldn’t see amproblem
I thought I was looking at the wrong race with the sound down, couldn’t see amproblem
Keeps it... Oisin at fault for not going on earlier to win his race..Scott nought wrong ..
the 2nd had no room wotsoever from 2f out..both had to switch around..the winner has not caused the 2nd to lose the race..but idiots make the decisions.
it opened 4/5 cos the pundits were creaming themselves over a disq.
rico not committing. but he'll have a tasty bet to show us all if the winner keeps it.
I'd just be worried the stewards were listening to the tv. If not it has to keep it.
if they change this then every race could see a DQ , jockeys not allowed to race ride and go for gaps, a bonkers SE. TV pundits all clearly on the second.
This is quite worrying and hope we don't get a scandalous decision.
Prices make me nervous.
Prices make me nervous.
no bet hulk..too close and after the kemp disq it can get farcical.
If they change this then the 1000 Aztec Layer is gonna need therapy 
It's a disgrace the racing tv pundits use their privileged position to try and influence a stewards. If Martin Dixon or Luck backed that they really should be reprimanded by Racing TV for being ridiculously over the top. Lydia wasn't much better.
Reynard 23 Aug 23 16:32
If they change this then the 1000 Aztec Layer is gonna need therapy
(rico)
If they change this then the 1000 Aztec Layer is gonna need therapy
(rico)
Pundits clueless. Must've watched millions of races between em and feckin hopeless.
Some of the Racing Media should take a long hard look at themselves,
with their behaviour over the past half hour
with their behaviour over the past half hour
and after the kemp disq it can get farcical
sounds like you're a beaten man steve
even ruby walsh called it at 50's on ....
sounds like you're a beaten man steve
even ruby walsh called it at 50's on ....
It looked worse live, ie before the head on. People moan when the pundits have a strong opinion, and they moan when they don't!
hulk23 23 Aug 23 16:36
and after the kemp disq it can get farcical
that decision was abso farcical..do ewe really want to be piling in with idiots adjudicating?
and after the kemp disq it can get farcical
that decision was abso farcical..do ewe really want to be piling in with idiots adjudicating?
Aug 23, 2023 -- 4:36PM, Cider wrote:
It looked worse live, ie before the head on. People moan when the pundits have a strong opinion, and they moan when they don't!
they doubled down after seeing the head on
It looked worse live
presume the stewards weren't watching live. hence they had to wait for matt chapman to say he was amazed there hadn't been a stewards before pressing the bing-bong.
presume the stewards weren't watching live. hence they had to wait for matt chapman to say he was amazed there hadn't been a stewards before pressing the bing-bong.
I wanted to back the reversal initially, and reversed out of my position.
It's easy to see why people get fed up with the forum as it's easy to snipe from a laptop, being able to look at the market, live pause etc, minutes after the race.
It's easy to see why people get fed up with the forum as it's easy to snipe from a laptop, being able to look at the market, live pause etc, minutes after the race.
in fairness..the rtv pundits will knott sea what we sea...
Cider, that was blatant from Luck and Martin Dixon. I'd be very surprised if neither of them had a vested interest in the 2nd getting the race.
they doubled down after seeing the head on
Yes the pundits called it wrong. So what.
It opened circa 3 and went into 2.2ish initially, so it wasn't a no brainer acc to initial money. I thought that the winner pushed another runner into the RU in severe way. But it didn't look half as bad after a few viewings, and I reverse ferreted.
Yes the pundits called it wrong. So what.
It opened circa 3 and went into 2.2ish initially, so it wasn't a no brainer acc to initial money. I thought that the winner pushed another runner into the RU in severe way. But it didn't look half as bad after a few viewings, and I reverse ferreted.
Cider, that was blatant from Luck and Martin Dixon. I'd be very surprised if neither of them had a vested interest in the 2nd getting the race.
They thought there would/should be an enq, but it was nothing to do with their own betting I'm almost certain. Just got a bit excitable. I don't know why people are upset about it, if anything it opens up a betting opportunity.
They thought there would/should be an enq, but it was nothing to do with their own betting I'm almost certain. Just got a bit excitable. I don't know why people are upset about it, if anything it opens up a betting opportunity.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the stewards weren't inclined to call a enquiry.
Outside influences made them take a look.
Even Betfair had the betting open whilst no enquiry had been called
Just iffy, imo
Outside influences made them take a look.
Even Betfair had the betting open whilst no enquiry had been called
Just iffy, imo
Yep spot on, they wouldn't even have bothered calling for an enquiry without the shouting from Luck, Dixon and Chapman. There was no need for one. Pundits trying to influence decisions.
Might have been merit in inquiry even
without winner being involved as there
was some interference and best to sort
it out.
Winner got carried into it, and jockey did
Well to wait and switch, the runner up then
had to wait for winner to manoeuvre before
making it's challenge.
Deffo worth a look.
without winner being involved as there
was some interference and best to sort
it out.
Winner got carried into it, and jockey did
Well to wait and switch, the runner up then
had to wait for winner to manoeuvre before
making it's challenge.
Deffo worth a look.
bf at times dont open the market wen there is one..today they opened if 5 mins before it was called ..
What is the relation between the connection of Forza Orta and Francesca's parents? Mr and Mrs Cumani were in the winner's enclosure.
saw derek thompson in the winners circle after Mostahdaf won.
presume he's dating Sheikha Hissa Hamdan Al Maktoum ??
presume he's dating Sheikha Hissa Hamdan Al Maktoum ??
Careful 'hulk23'. I understand her husband was absent today. Nevertheless, you'd go to prison for that in her country.
would ewe think the stewards would be listening to rtv?
Probably not rico but I was at York and it was a very late call and having heard about the performance by those on rtv I believe it found it’s way back and in this crazy world the stewards reacted
4 and a half minutes after the race finished, with the winner unsaddled and having a drink, Matt Chapman said on ITV racing he was amazed a stewards had not been called.
24 seconds later, whilst he was interviewing Kevin Ryan, the bing bong went.
24 seconds later, whilst he was interviewing Kevin Ryan, the bing bong went.
If seemed longer than 4 1/2 minutes hulk not doubting you .
bing bonger mite have been broke for 4m 29secs.
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