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Mat22
20 Aug 23 11:55
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Ramatuelle looks pretty special to me and on her way to the top.

I like this stable, Big Rock, Blue Rose Cen and this filly running today have all made me money this season, even though the the first two mentioned have been beaten of late.
one by Inspiral and one with a poor ride at Goodwood.

But with negatives coming from O'brien on River Tiber, this filly ought to collect has strong Claims to grab her first group 1.
The Dogs are barking from this stable and they seem pretty bullish.
Slightly gutted she is only around 6/4 as i was really hopping for around 2/1....she's even shorter on the PMU....but i will just have to bang more on Cool
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Report Mat22 August 20, 2023 3:22 PM BST
Mqse De Sevigne just chinned the Fav in the Romanet which helps boost funds.
Report Mat22 August 20, 2023 3:29 PM BST
Ouch....run down by Vandeek Sad
Report ColeWorldNoBlanket August 20, 2023 3:30 PM BST
Van Deek is some horse
Report breadnbutter August 20, 2023 3:37 PM BST
Did you recover yor steak ir 22?
Report Mat22 August 20, 2023 3:40 PM BST
Andrea Atzeni trying for his life there....He is Normally useless....probably why he is heading off.
Almost made a mess of it.

Best Horse won no Complaints.

No  @ Breadnbutter it was win or lose for me thought she had excellent claims today.
Report differentdrum August 20, 2023 7:07 PM BST
What were the negatives about River Tiber?

Did O'Brien say he would never be put in the race to have any chance? Very strange ride.

Atzeni not the worst on the big occasion. It's all the lesser one's that have been the problem.
Report acey deucy August 20, 2023 7:21 PM BST
Anybody that thinks Atzeni is useless is clueless imho....I cant believe Varian prefers Egan over him.
Report Hayden August 20, 2023 7:45 PM BST
They can all ride good races , they can all ride bad races , they can all snatch victory from defeat , they can all snatch defeat from victory.

Jockeyship will never be an exact science in spite of the continuously moaning punters who are convinced it should be.
Report Cider August 20, 2023 8:34 PM BST
Sport is not an exact science, but HR has additional variables. That does not mean jockeys are beyond critique, does it?

We are not usually in possession of full information. On the face of it, for example the Derry Lad ride today was beyond awful. But was that riding to firm instructions, or did he bottle it, knowing what was potentially on the line? Were instructions over interpreted? Quite often, the wrong approach to a race is taken but that came from connections and not the jockey, but the jockey will get the flack.
Report EastLower Gooner August 20, 2023 8:37 PM BST
Well if you don’t like Andrea then don’t worry because she will be over in Hong Kong soon.

Going to be tough mixing it with them lot but I suppose if Bentley can battle through it then so can she.
Report layingisthewayforward August 20, 2023 9:02 PM BST
Userdifferentdrum • August 20, 2023 7:07 PM BST
What were the negatives about River Tiber?

There were loads, been in the press for the last few days. Only got the go ahead to run after a gallop yesterday.
Report differentdrum August 20, 2023 9:56 PM BST
Why would anyone looking at a ride need to consider instructions?

Surely the idea is to ride every horse for the best possible placing? If that isn't the case then you are just admitting that the game is bent.
Report Cider August 20, 2023 10:42 PM BST
In that example, Derry Lad, if BDLS was told to hold the horse up and swing wide for a clear run in the straight, it was terrible tactics. But the jockey would have been doing what he was told, so couldn't take the blame. As the race turned out in practice, he pinged the gates and had to be strangled to get to the rear of the field, there was no pace and he was done for. It was so exaggereated it really stood out, he was so determined to drag it to the back.

Seems extraordinary to me why they rode it that way as I saw the trainer interviewed  earlier in the week where he said that he was concerned 10f is now shorter than ideal for the horse. But considering it was running for £100K+, and they employed the services of an inexperienced jockey, they surely would not have simply left the tactics up to the jockey.
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