Ulez expansion in London, passed by court.

Apologies, should have posted on Politics forum.

The beginning of the end game of the total and irreversible destruction of our once great capital city.

And will be replicated across Britain.

Yep, expect other big cities will follow, don't drive much these days so my old diesel is on the drive most of time and does about 2,500 miles a year now i'm retired, if it comes to Birmingham soon i'll probably get rid and use my bus pass, thus taking £5/600 a year Insurance, £200 rd tax, £50 MOT, say another £200 a year maintenance and Petrol and RAC costs out of the economy and that's just me.

Khan has caused untold misery and chaos on the roads near me and now this draconian charge on top is absolutely abhorrent.

Crime, shoplifting and anti-social behaviour has increased by over a third in Co-op shops in the past year.

The company has revealed that almost 1,000 incidents occurred every day in shops in the first six months of 2023, a total of more than 175,000.

One shop in inner London was "looted" three times in a single day.


It's already a third world hell hole, now he is expanding it to the M25.

Impressive whataboutery from Cider as per. Seriously stewarts, get a post 2006 petrol, if you're that worried. 

Some of the sh1te that pours our of the pipe of diesels is disgusting, get them off the road imo.

Cesspool

Anyone here ever experienced air pollution such as the great smog of London 1952?    A few less cars on the road then as well

....How many cars were there in the UK in 1952?

Seventy years ago, there were 2,521,000 cars on the road, compared with 35 million at the end of 2021.

I'm not worried Dave, as i said probably only drive 2 or 3 times a week and do very few miles and it's not a kn@cker either, doubt much pollution coming from me. What about all the small tradesmen driving diesel vans and trucks.

Cleaner air less traffic

Not many coal fires in London now, sparrow, not after they caused the great smog in 1952. The Clean Air Act 1956 was the ULEZ of its day.

ppl should focus their efforts on the non-electric sales ban in 2030, when eletric tech is nowhere near ready.

You fail to mention the 32.5 million extra cars, ramruma.

And 20 million more people

For interest, I put my 11 year old car registration in on a checking site and my car wouldn't have to pay not that I'm taking my car anywhere near London anytime soon.

A friend of mine in London has a 15 year old car which is also exempt from the charge.

Once cash is gone there will be no option not to pay......dangerous, scary times ahead

Being able to drive and having a car give one independence and convenience. For instance, no waiting at the bus stops in the winter when it could be freezing. Also, able to buy and carry more meaning fewer trips into town for shopping saving loads of time weekly.

Mr Khan is an attention seeker and totally out-of-touch with reality and present struggles of people with the cost of living. The bloke is a political liability and an anal-passage; ulez is a good policy but not when most are struggling to get by presently.

The pr1ck is supposed to be in favour of female safety.

I suspect people who don't know it well have no concept of what it's like in parts of the outskirts of London. To believe that you you could rely on public transport is laughable.

Female safety? He was conspicuously quiet kept when his fellow countrymen used and sexually abused young white female up north. The bloke has let power take away his ability to judge and evaluate a policy accordingly.

This would happen whoever is Mayor of London......instructions from the WEF. The noose tightening around our freedom every so slightly every day

The biggest Con and spin of all, global warming and ulez, even Bradford have ulez what a joke, 2400 power stations in the world and we still have 2 working due to close soon

Coal

Coal

I think this could be the end of Khan. Hopefully

15 year old cars allowed without payment and the usual forum loons screaming and bawling about their normal gripes.

If the additional daily travelling tax isn't going to hit relatively poor working people, why roll it out? The cameras alone cost £60 million I believe.

Classic cars are exempt eg 40yrs+. Is that equitable? Classic cars are one of the worst polluters.

Boris Johnson was the person who introduced the first ULEZ zone in London.

It's appropriate enough for the actual centre.

If Khan had introduced it to the centre you would not be saying that

Yes I would. It's all about rationality isn't it, it's completely rational to discourage traffic where you can hop in a bus to go anywhere in a bus, fully built up and practically can't be anywhere without a tube station within sight, and effectively the countryside. The expansion is about punishment and raking in revenue.

Lived in London for 30 years and always had a car since age 17. Never drove into zone 1.

£12.50, bout the same as a pint of stella up the west end.   

not exactly ballbreaking.

yup

.https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1684905265164918784?s=20

Dwarfs running the country

KHAN not stopping Pollution  Just charging Polluters ,an Odious Man  , With his ties to the Big pride event, I am surprised he has not been taken out by his fellow Chaps of the Book

Don't expect it to stay at £12.50 for too long - next stop £15.00 and then onwards and upwards

The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, today (Thursday 26 March) confirmed the introduction of the world’s first Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ), and welcomed an increased fund of £65 million to help support London taxi drivers’ transition to zero emission capable taxis.

Following a positive consultation process, the Ultra Low Emission Zone will launch in central London on 7 September 2020, significantly improving air quality and helping to protect the health of Londoners. It will require vehicles travelling in the Congestion Charge Zone of central London to meet new emission standards 24 hours a day, seven days a week or pay a daily charge.

26 March 2015

• £65 million to deliver plans for cleaner taxis, including extra £25m from Government • From 2020, ULEZ will reduce most harmful vehicle exhaust pollutants by more than half • More than 16,000 consultation responses, 79 per cent in favour of improving London’s air quality

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/ultra-low-emission-zone

If they were interested in cleaning the air they would ban air polluting cars altogether but they are not interested in cleaning the air quality as polluting vehicles can still pollute the air but it will cost them. A big scam to transfer wealth again from the poor to the rich....just like Covid and the C19 Vax and Climate Change......money trickling out of the poors pocket into the already mega wealthy and will get worse when CBDC comes in in the near future

I don't believe it's the end game. This gets the camera infrastructure in place and now you can't go anywhere in London without someone knowing where (your car at least). They can therefore control how far you can drive, and when. And charge you for it.

Labour wanted to free the working classes when I was a kid, now they want them unable to go where they like when they like.
79% in favour of cleaner air. I doubt they asked how many wanted to pay an extra £90 a week for it.

1. Ulez was started by Boris.
2. Expansion of Ulez was demanded by the government (Grant Shapps, Transport Secretary) as price for bailing out TfL over Covid losses.
3. Only about half London households (families, not people) have cars.
4. 9 out of 10 cars are exempt, including classic cars, petrol cars since 2006 and diesels since 2015.
5. Big Brother can already track your car by camera, and you by your phone.
6. There's a scrappage scheme, albeit not a very generous one.
7. Check your car here: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/
8. WFM.

Just to be clear, Ramruma. You don't believe the goalposts will be moved once it is live. ie in 10 years time, practically nobody will be paying the tax?

in ten years time all petrol/diesel cars will be facing a ban, which is much more of a campaigning issue that encouraging ppl to get rid of filth spewing diesels.

Oh, no doubt. First they will need the money. Second, even electric cars cause pollution and are in some ways worse because they are so heavy (road damage, tyre wear). On the other hand, children with asthma should be better off. But I do not see it as some overarching conspiracy.

Rendering most of your bullet points entirely irrelevant. This is just another slice of the salami. Do you know what the end game is?

A well known psychological manoeuvre to fool the gullible. The same techniques were applied throughout the covid nonsense. Although perhaps this particular slice is seeing more resistance than they anticipated.

ive just sold my house got good money for it in islington north london , am moveing to ashford kent , into a litle flat , so thay can do what ever thay like to london . poor shops and cafes , good luck every one

Electric car batteries use rare minerals and metals from the earth. They are finite resources but soon everyone will need them for there car from Chelmsford to China. This will push the price up so much electric cars will not be affordable or even attainable in numbers for the poorer drivers.

London is fast approaching failed city status and I don’t see things ever getting better.

Rents have sky rocketed and will continue to do so, the cost of living will keep going up, basic public services will continue to decline, crime will get even worse and the place is completely over run with the Alphabet lot.

This just isn’t going to get fixed ever. So I’m out.

Signed contracts on a place up North a couple weeks backs.

Pretty happy because I’ll be able to visit a lot of the tracks Ive always wanted to visit but never had the time to travel up to from London.

I’m thinking of making Pontefract my first stop but we’ll see.