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barstool Jul 23 16:07
' .... sometimes feel like we need another war so a few can get their priorities right.' ----------------- We ARE currently having a War - aren't we - barstool ... Witness the resultant hardships of the Energy price explosion - and and Cost of Living crisis. At War with - the nutcase from Russia - who, ironically, started his land grab, because ... He is still living in the 1950s. ![]() ![]() His tactics, military and weaponry are, thankfully, mostly 1950s standard, too - apart from the missiles, which must be akin to Hitler's V-2 Rockets. But what Putin did not bargain for, was coming up against 2020s technology.... as he dreams/dreamt of his aspirational return to utopian 1950s Soviet Union. Another mistake he has made is .... Most people in Russia YOUNGER than him - do NOT share his dream - and hoped for personal Legacy. What a ****. ![]() |
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What Hitchens doesn't mention, or possibly doesn't know, is that prior to betting shops the rich could bet as much as they liked without going anywhere near a course. They had credit accounts with bookies,which were not available to the riff-raff. Ladbrokes was once actually a distinctly upmarket example of the firms who offered these facilities.
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Don't know about the fifties as I was not old enough but since the 70s. credit accounts have been freely available to almost anyone. Only now are they asking for evidence of ability to pay.
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I don't remember the pre-betting shop days either but in the 50s that was the norm. Others will know better than me but I think the "rails" bookies originally took credit bets from established clients in the "posher" bits. I'm not pretending that the working class couldn't get on but it was a very murky legal area as if you watch enough films from that period it becomes obvious. Moreover most people didn't have phones till the 60s. I'm still occasionally a bit nervous using even a landline,a sort of hangover from the fact i'd probably used a phone twice before i was 16.
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There used to be the - 'Call-Over' - at the Victoria Club - of ANTE+POST PRICES - on all the Big Races ...
Reported on the Sports pages of all the Newspapers as - 'Victoria Club Call-Over' - with major Price changes and bets struck reported. from the Daily Dispatch 27th April 1945 HIGH PEAK SHORTENS TO 17-2 IN DERBY BETTING BETING was not heavy on the Classic races at the Victoria Club London call-Over yesterday. The feature was the shortening of High Peak's price for the Derby from the previous call-over, of 100 to 9 to ... Published: Friday 27 April 1945 |
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I accept that salmon but at what stage did bookmakers stop caring about ability to pay? Not that appearing to be wealthy was any guarantee and bad debt was always a factor that bookies had to factor in. In the late 70s I had 5 credit accounts, some national some local and can't ever remember any questions being asked apart from a reference from another credit bookie if I applied for a new one. I always paid on the nail when sent a bill.
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/rare-archive-footage-shows-how-1960s-punters-reacted-to-betting-shops-opening-a7Ofk0R52vFI/
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Apologies for my comment sparrow. No need for it.
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No worries, barstool.
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It's an interesting social/cultural area. Until I was 10 we lived with my grandfather born in the 1890s,who could reasonably be called lower middle-class. He had a minor managerial job,owned his own 4 bedroom residence in a decent area and voted Tory. He tended to see gambling on the horses as being disreputable but filled in at least 6 pools coupons a week ( including Billy's fixed-odds ). I had a rather pointless disagreement with him on this point when I was 13 and no longer had to share a house.
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